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Date:      Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:30:11 GMT
From:      VANHULLEBUS Yvan <yvan.vanhullebus@netasq.com>
To:        freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: ports/105488: [patch] security/ipsec-tools: NAT-T support silently ignored if header file unpatched
Message-ID:  <200611160930.kAG9UB8Q023235@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR ports/105488; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: VANHULLEBUS Yvan <yvan.vanhullebus@netasq.com>
To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re:  ports/105488: [patch] security/ipsec-tools: NAT-T support silently ignored if header file unpatched
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:25:44 +0100

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 On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 09:27:52PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
 > On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, VANHULLEBUS Yvan wrote:
 >=20
 > >People who just don't know what is NAT-T won't care about it (and will
 > >automagically have it when the patch will be included in FreeBSD's
 > >CVS), and people who want it should have read the warning about
 > >needing a kernel patch.
 >=20
 > People who won't care don't need it and would leave it to default
 > which is off anyway so that case does not matter.
 
 When this option has been included, I guessed integrating NAT-T
 support in FreeBSD's CVS would be quite fast, so I put the default to
 easy migration when it will be included, even for people who don't
 know what NAT-T means (but which may still need).
 
 This patch integration took lot more time than I hoped (and it is
 still not done).
 
 
 But now lots of people have WITH_NATT=3Dtrue in their
 /var/db/ports/ipsec-tools file, we can't just apply the patch you
 provided, as it would break ipsec-tools compilation for all people
 that don't know what NAT-T is, and who don't know the patch's
 existence.
 
 
 > People who want it do not want it to be left out when they have to
 > explicitly to turn it on. By turning it on they say "I want this"
 > but do not say "I want this maybe". If they do a make package and
 > deploy it and it turns out to not be in it might take them hours to
 > figure out what went wrong.
 >
 > It's a YES/NO thing and no MAYBE. If you want a MAYBE do it for
 > the default NO case but that will not permit people to leave it out
 > when their system would have the header files that support it.
 
 If I used a YES/NO which means Yes =3D> force, NO =3D> maybe, someone else
 whoud already have filled a PR for "I set up NAT-T support to NO and
 it is compiled on my host which have the NAT-T patch !"..........
 
 
 > So if you want a MAYBE do not provide an option but that will not
 > allow the poeple to chose - that's what the options from make config
 > are about.
 
 The only solution to make sure (quite) all people are happy would be
 to have a YES/NO/FORCE (or a YES/TEST/NO, or whatever else, as soon as
 the actual default value in option files don't break things).
 
 Of course, the best long term solution will be to have NAT-T support
 officially integrated in FreeBSD.........
 
 
 
 Yvan.
 
 --=20
 NETASQ
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