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Date:      Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:28:38 -0500
From:      Valeri Galtsev <>
To:        Ralf Mardorf <>
Subject:   Re: OS to replace FreeBSD
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> On Mar 21, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Ralf Mardorf <> =

Ralf, your wisdom may tell me why when posting on this thread (except =
the one when I mentioned =E2=80=98boot_mute=3D=E2=80=9CYES=E2=80=9D =E2=80=
=98 ) I felt like I am feeding troll(s). I bet I=E2=80=99m not the only =
one tired of this thread ;-( But thanks for bringing some sanity to =
insane exchange.


> On Sun, 2021-03-21 at 11:47 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>> The reasons for "why should they" are:
>> 1. There is an almost infinite number of combinations of hardware =
that one
>> can find out there and most of them are like the person you are =
replying to
>> edge cases that effect very few people (as witnessed by you can't =
>> anyone with a close enough system that is willing to actually do the =
>> to test any fixes on...
> Let's call this the "big reason why" and assume no undertone, just =
> faith.
>> so this leaves two options: a) you stop complaining
>> and help actually fix the bug, b) you switch OS's.... either way stop
>> publically whining about stuff you refuse to help with in an way and =
if you
>> switch OS's this is the wrong forum to do it in -- in short STFU)
> Is this still a required explanation?
>> 2. They *DO* list hardware that is *KNOWN* to be 100% compatible and
>> working with the base system if you are not using one of the listed
>> components then you are venturing into unknown territory and any =
>> are on you to report and or help fix... if you decide to go this =
route then
>> you have no one except yourself to blame when you run into "some =
>> required" situations and likely you are one the few people that can =
>> fix it... yet you refuse to...
> Hard to ignore the undertone here ;). White and black lists are
> imperfect, so be careful! However "likely you are one" + "yet you =
> to" is an accusation.
>> again STFU
> Pff!
> Somebody who is frustrated kicks partly over the traces and you guess
> that it helps anybody in the universe to be spiteful?
> It might not be an excuse, but at least it's a good explanation why =
> OP kicks over the traces, since the OP is frustrated that something
> doesn't work.
> There's neither an excuse, nor an explanation why you are doing the
> same.
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