From owner-freebsd-chat Mon May 18 23:18:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09365 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns2.cetlink.net (ns2.cetlink.net [209.54.54.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08839 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:56:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jak@cetlink.net) Received: from EXIT10 (i485-gw.cetlink.net [209.198.15.97]) by ns2.cetlink.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01403; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: jak@cetlink.net (John Kelly) To: Atipa Cc: "Jan B. Koum " , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why we should support Microsoft... Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 01:05:13 GMT Message-ID: <3561d69c.198654393@mail.cetlink.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id SAA08931 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 18 May 1998 15:02:56 -0600 (MDT), Atipa wrote: > Jan B. Koum said: >> This is about monopoly. Go read some history with the following >> keywords: Standard Oil, AT&T. Monopoly is bad for economy. Not necessarily. Cisco has achieved 80% monopoly in the Internet router market, but without using illegal tying contracts and other practices prohibited by the antitrust laws. As long as they act lawfully while creating a monopoly, the law does not judge it as bad. > Atipa said: >> Those are commodities that influence the basic needs of people (heat, >> elctricity, telephones), and not what OS they use to play Quake. If we >> open the door to this kind of government support, expect a clipper chip >> inside your phone very shortly. An OS which drives net commerce is quickly becoming a basic need. Microsoft, OTOH, has acted unlawfully. Tying contracts, exclusive dealing, and other bad practices, not to mention shoddy products, are their standard operating procedure. Therefore, the law judges them as bad, deserving of severe punishment, up to and including destruction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message