From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Apr 18 0:32:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47C5237B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 12616 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 07:32:52 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.17188.348607.736805@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:32:52 -0500 To: Brett Glass Cc: Mike Meyer , Rahul Siddharthan , James Howard , Joseph Mallett , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: banner(6) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010418005020.045fc930@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010417124854.04560b30@localhost> <20010417095140.A74385@lpt.ens.fr> <20010416191256.R27477@lpt.ens.fr> <20010416193151.U27477@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010416211727.045766e0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010418005020.045fc930@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass types: > >That's pretty much just what I said. Fonts - whether programs or > >actual bits of metal - have copyright protection. Typefaces - in the > >form of what the fonts produce - do not. > That's not correct. Fonts do not "produce" typefaces. They are > renderings of typefaces. That's wrong. What Adobe calls fonts are programs that you have to run in order to see the typeface they encode. The graphic images that result are clearly produced by those programs. I don't agree with you that Adobe has chosen the wrong terminology, as their fonts have more in common with non-software fonts than they do with typefaces. You can continue to quibble about that if you wish, but I'm going to continue using the terminology used by the rest of the world. > >The end result is the same - someone does a bunch of creative work, > >drawing designs for a typeface, then repeating the process at various > >different point sizes so they all have the same color. Then anyone who > >wants can sell - or give away - knockoffs capitalizing on their work > >without compensating them in any way. > It is possible to do a knockoff, and many people do. But what's being > copied is the uncopyrightable design. If you copy the program that > renders the typeface into a font, you've infringed a copyright. This > has been upheld in court. Adobe's "fonts" (which are really programs > that render typefaces into fonts) are copyrightable. Those people making - and using - knockoffs are using the work of the designer without compensation. Yeah, it's legal. It's still about as ethical as downloading an mp3 copy of a protected work from the net. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message