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Date:      Fri, 6 Jul 2018 06:17:57 +0700
From:      Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Matt Macy <mmacy@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r335916 - head/sys/conf
Message-ID:  <5B3EA725.4010202@grosbein.net>
In-Reply-To: <2a5b1c50-0f50-bbe1-4fcd-b98f61d24571@FreeBSD.org>
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06.07.2018 1:21, John Baldwin wrote:

> Yes, this is a change though I find it the logical outcome of the original change
> to move away from MODULES_WITH_WORLD.  And to be clear, Matt certainly only
> intended to use MODULE_TIED in a few places, but I think tagging all those
> places will be cumbersome and tedious compared to just doing it in this way.  I
> think this will also tie into something I proposed earlier in a commit reply and
> that I also brought up at BSDCan which is that I think that kernel modules in
> ports should install their sources and build glue to some location we choose
> (e.g. /usr/local/sys/modules/<foo>) and that we should support a variable folks
> can set in their kernel config file similar to MODULES_OVERRIDE that is a list
> of local modules to recompile and install into /boot/kernel along with other
> modules (and that these recompiled modules would be TIED).  The binary module
> from the package would still be present in /boot/modules, but the tied module
> in /boot/kernel would be preferred and used instead when it exists (our existing
> module_path already does this last part).  This would replace the existing
> PORTS_MODULES but in a way that is more graceful and works with packages, not
> just ports IMO.

I'm not sure I understand the topic quite right, but please do not drop
MODULES_WITH_WORLD support at it allows us to quickly rebuild the kernel
in case of slight changes of its config file not changing ABI and/or
similar source changes without HUGE modules compilation overhead.

Also, we should not use /usr/local/sys/modules/<foo> as /usr/local
can be inaccessible for the loader. Better use /boot/modules/local or /boot/local
as /boot is guaranteed to be accessible.




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