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Date:      Wed, 5 Aug 2020 09:13:31 +0200
From:      Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Complete idiots guide to virtualize Android with bhyve
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On Wed, 05 Aug 2020 02:48:47 +0000, Daniel Stevenson wrote:
>On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:12 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Any examples and Android sources where bhvye succeeds are
>> appreciated. Instruction to students may be hybrid part in school
>> and part online maybe entirely online. This will help setup some
>> videos since many students have smart phones and most run Android
>> they can setup Google Play or Fdroid and get them to help
>> instruction calculators, math programs and or Google sheets, Google
>> Docs and Google Slides.

Hi,

it doesn't make sense to install an operating system that doesn't
fit the users needs and then to emulate a mobile phone on that
operating system, to run the required applications. That is the most
worst mismanagement possible in the first place.

"Android is [...] designed primarily for touchscreen mobile devices
such as smartphones and tablets [...] its source code is known as
Android Open Source Project (AOSP) which is primarily licensed under
the Apache License. However most Android devices ship with additional
proprietary software pre-installed [...]." -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

You are using an operating system not providing what you actually
need, so to workaround the wrong choice done in the first place, you
consider to use a virtual machine, but not to run the most useful guest
for your purpose, instead you consider to try the most freakish
"solution".
  
> Ubuntu

A Zoom mobile app is available for iOS and iPadOS,
too, see https://zoom.us/support/download .
Why not running iOS or iPadOS as virtualbox guest?

Consider to run Ubuntu as guest on your FreeBSD host and iOS as guest
in the Ubuntu guest.

See:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2019-April/296577.html

Take a look at the date, when the screenshot was taken and at the date
of the post to the Ubuntu mailing list. It's around one year ago, so it
should still work today.

https://i.imgur.com/4rHkCs4.jpg

Joking apart, the "complete idiots guide" you are asking for, is to not
do something completely idiotic.

I can't comment on the "Zoom Extension for Browsers". I can't comment
on Zoom at all. However, did you already test it?

If Zoom shouldn't run (as app or browser extension) on FreeBSD, maybe an
alternative to "Zoom" does. If nothing should work on FreeBSD, then
before considering to emulate a mobile phone, try to run a more common
guest, either "Linux" or "Windows" or even consider to purge FreeBSD
and to install an operating system that does suit.

Well-implemented virtualisation is something very useful. Using
virtualisation to patch a lack of plan makes the lack of plan just
worse. It's a "Fass ohne Boden", translation:
https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/53/46/37/240_F_53463791_23a9vQG7TIsliZE2PyWT4SEzh3MDTZWL.jpg

Regards,
Ralf



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