From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 24 14:32:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D2DF10; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royce.williams@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6038FC0A; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m13so8506565lah.21 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:31:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=O+R9ePKYx/bsocaMGcmNBJFSHyOzwGt8E7Q4J0yGR30=; b=rxqrwQWl6TS94i6Ng1AOvWiAESUwmCIW1yc8+Qd1RkjdO6ljdLAee0EMxikZYNGUqz e0+bR/hkGDoWunCOL0dso4hP83Q+ALvShbIdTNXwx2M4rZ5DUKrpJOchGLBH4+l2kSP1 omFWquWSs8K89ESOiXktFsowo6R4Y7Zvx9ih7X5dH270+QjqZemm3PCxjz/UntR+fcIT 47HZkHYwkvMHzxN3AhuZ2tM+0CrlzDu8xcIx3onXyeDlCIDRws10VaN6R8H/gskIUJLQ eH7TkEUwDFsxg/Qcruit5LQUu9wU2S30fpmIhg6QTdweSDqPszaTu+6V81Jqe2E53E/R ndaw== Received: by 10.112.45.166 with SMTP id o6mr8441269lbm.44.1356359514154; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:31:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: royce.williams@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.134.199 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:31:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <2056641356295776@web16h.yandex.ru> <50D83D0A.3030105@onetel.com> From: Royce Williams Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 05:31:33 -0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HIq79sHWj3MCd9URgH6aNPP6MKE Message-ID: Subject: Re: UPDATING To: Chris Rees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Chris Whitehouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:32:01 -0000 On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 24 December 2012 11:31, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > On 24/12/2012 06:52, Anton Afanasyev wrote: > >> > >> I second this. > >> While it may have made sense to include the "rebuild all ports. Here's > an > >> example of how" initially, including three versions of the rebuilding > >> commands is a tad too much, and so replacing the wordiness with a simp= le > >> "ACTIONS:" tag kind of thing would make the message much more concise. > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 12:49 PM, =EB=D5=CC=C5=DB=CF=D7 =E1=CC=C5=CB= =D3=C5=CA > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Good morning, everyone! > >>> > >>> Instead of thousand words like these: > >>> > >>> 20121211: > >>> AFFECTS: users of graphics/ImageMagick > >>> AUTHOR: bdrewery@FreeBSD.org > >>> > >>> The ImageMagick library has been updated to version 6.8.0-7. Plea= se > >>> rebuild all ports that depend on it. > >>> > >>> If you use portmaster: > >>> portmaster -w -r ImageMagick > >>> If you use portupgrade: > >>> portupgrade -fr graphics/ImageMagick > >>> If you use pkgng with binary packages: > >>> pkg install -fR graphics/ImageMagick > >>> > >>> > >>> may be it would be useful for port upgrade programs to see informatio= n > >>> like this: > >>> > >>> 20121211: > >>> AFFECTS: users of graphics/ImageMagick > >>> AUTHOR: bdrewery@FreeBSD.org > >>> ACTION: REBUILD_DEPS > >>> > >>> ... some words for interested one ... > > > > > > Could I put in a request as a lowly user to keep the wording? For vario= us > > reasons I haven't used any of the above commands (still on 9.0R with > default > > packages and tinderbox before that) and there have been a lot changes > > recently. Keeping the wording helps those of us who aren't yet up to > speed > > with the new systems. > > I think we need to keep in mind people for whom English is an > additional language... parsing ACTION; REBUILD_DEPS is a lot easier > for them than a few paragraphs. > > However, in this case I don't see how the wording could be simplified. > > I think that part of the original poster's point was that instructions on how to rebuilt dependencies could be generically included once (perhaps at the top?) and then repeatedly included by reference where needed. Royce