Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 10:21:30 +1100 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dependency explosions Message-ID: <20161003232130.GW31297@eureka.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <d14d1aaf-5bdb-2e09-2892-2e32c4db0810@FreeBSD.org> References: <2df71272-7b98-ad73-650a-3ec70beb71d5@freebsd.org> <d14d1aaf-5bdb-2e09-2892-2e32c4db0810@FreeBSD.org>
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--HqPpMaT+a6TeY/Q4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, 3 October 2016 at 14:14:13 +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > Le 01/10/2016 =C3=A0 04:35, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit : >> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming >> in as a dependency, as there is an increasing tendency to configure >> things with all the bells and whistles. > > The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will > fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box. Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I recently installed a new version of firefox, and I was amazed by the number and nature of the dependencies. It totalled 497 MB, including: Fetching chromium-52.0.2743.116_1.txz: .......... done Fetching opera-12.16_6.txz: .......... done Fetching apache-openoffice-4.1.2_9.txz: .......... done Fetching libreoffice-5.0.6_3.txz: .......... done Fetching gimp-2.8.18,2.txz: . done Fetching hugin-2016.2.0.txz: .......... done Fetching mplayer-1.3.0.20160912_1.txz: .......... done Fetching samba42-4.2.14.txz: .......... done Fetching emacs24-24.5_3,3.txz: .......... done Chromium? Opera? Emacs? Both OpenOffice and LibreOffice? I don't know if this always happens, but there's an issue here. I have a few unfinished thoughts about how it could occur, but so far all I can confirm is that there is an issue. Is there a way to display these dependencies in a tree structure? Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA --HqPpMaT+a6TeY/Q4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAlfy5/oACgkQIubykFB6QiOB/wCcCK8lt++YS38zMakDf2AcHXZP pxIAoJz/QIqFmj03/VfgLIsgWHRpKych =ZIh6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HqPpMaT+a6TeY/Q4--
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