From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 5 09:32:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBA816A468 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@moneybookers.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D765313C4B3 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@moneybookers.com) Received: by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 9F9DD1B10EE6; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:32:43 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on blah.cmotd.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from hater.haters.org (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7224B1B10EEB; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:32:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472EE338.70807@moneybookers.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:32:40 +0200 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrei Kolu References: <1194175906.1115.7.camel@opus.cse.buffalo.edu> <200711050004.55540.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> <200711051054.53577.antik@bsd.ee> In-Reply-To: <200711051054.53577.antik@bsd.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4673/Sun Nov 4 23:22:25 2007 on blah.cmotd.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA2 Available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:32:59 -0000 Hi, Andrei Kolu wrote: > Sunday 04 November 2007 18:04:55 kirjutas Ladislav Bodnar: > >> On Sunday 04 November 2007, Ken Smith wrote: >> >>> The 7.0-BETA2 builds have completed and are on many of the FreeBSD >>> mirror sites. If you want to update an existing machine using cvsup use >>> RELENG_7 as the branch tag. Instructions on using FreeBSD Update to >>> perform a binary upgrade from FreeBSD 6.x to 7.0-BETA2 will be provided >>> via the freebsd-stable list when available. >>> >> These release announcements seem to be shorter and shorter with every >> release. Is there a changelog to see what has changed since BETA1? If so, >> would you please consider linking to it in future announcements? >> >> > Why hurry with untested releases? I see so many obvious bugs and human errors > during release builds. Where is quality assurance or release engineering? > > It smells more like ALPHA development not proper releasing... > > IMHO > It will be better if you summarize all those BUGs that you see. Human errors can always happen. I guess BETA2 comes so short only because there was few major problems with BETA1, and BETA1.5 changed version to BETA1 after update, which was little weird, hence the need to bump version. So for me BETA2 is actually the real BETA1 :) I'm not part of re@ but this seems reasonable explanation. Also have in mind that this is voluntary project, and I think that the resources that it have are well used. Don't you think so? BTW snapshots are done every month, so it's just time for the next snapshot, that is called BETA2 ... Instead of moaning we better start testing and report problems (and whoever can send fixes) :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177