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Date:      Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:20:27 -0500
From:      Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Mailman's moderation checkbox?! - Why are so many FreeBSD haters on this list? (Troll bait)
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On 4/29/20 1:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm joining this list since 2012 and don't remember anybody who ever
> was nearly as rude, let alone ruder than Aryeh Friedman. This person
> should consider to reread his own posts to the list, perhaps starting
> with his subject of this thread. "Why are so many FreeBSD haters on
> this list? (Troll bait)" Insulting "many" subscribers of this mailing
> list as "haters" is rude. His mails are full of similar insults about
> "evil" people and things, apart from this he insists to continue
> spreading FUD.
> 
> Every now and then off-topic threads are nice to read, as long as they
> aren't the reason for dispeace. The moderation bit could be used to
> sort out emails with continued threads, that do not belong to this list
> and that in addition do cause dispeace. It doesn't require to ban a
> subscriber or subscribers from the list. A long discussion regarding
> legal questions, done by laymen, might belong to
> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat . OTOH tinfoil
> hat theories including insults about bad intentions behind FLOSS
> licenses, are probably unwelcome on any FLOSS related mailing list.
> 
> The OP of the threads in question does add insults and preposterous
> allegation to his opinions. At the moment nobody seems to be upset about
> other opinions, it's just that the tone of voice let those opinions
> become unreasonable. I can't speak for other, but I like one or the
> other license better than the GPL. What I dispute are the conclusions
> based upon infamous misrepresentations.
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2020-April/author.html#start

Ralf, my observations are as yours. I do know your name and names of 
several other people that person offending as I routinely read yours 
their insightful posts on the list. I do not know the name of this 
person, - did not until I read first of his recent rude posts.

Alas, FreeBSD lists have this unbelievable tolerance to abusers since 
forever, and they will not change - I learned that long ago.

The only thing that comes to my mind in this our case are the words of 
greatest writer Mark Twain (Samuel Clemence):

“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

Valeri

> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
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