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Date:      Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:31:12 -0500 (EST)
From:      Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
To:        mpd <mpd6334@cs.rit.edu>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.Org>
Subject:   Re: XF86 4.2.0 "xf86cfg" command, one day at a time :(
Message-ID:  <20020403202433.C68910-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020403200100.A70658@rochester.rr.com>

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, mpd wrote:
> > > > [1] Why is this logfile necessarily 690 lines?! and
> > > Because 690 lines was necessary to convey the information.
> > Very disconcerting.  (Six hundred ninety times over.)
> I disagree, a LOT.

If dmesg knows so much -- which it undeniably does -- why is there no
XFree86, or plain X binary command, that works "out-of-the-box?!"  In some
ways, FreeBSD is really lacking for a "Control Panel" type command that
would "ping" your PnP monitor, videocard, mouse, audio, etc and so on and
so forth. >:-(

> > I downloaded a bunch of *.tgz files then ran the command `sh Xinstall.sh` originally.
> Yes, those are binary packages.
> > It would take me a century to figure out how to `make install` from scratch, but that might be favorable as I'd end up with one built on FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE *and* one that listened to /etc/make.conf where it says i686. :)
> Have you tried the port? It works fine.

How might I try the port?  Is this a portupgrade -R thing or a pkg_add -r thing?
Should I just go to www.xfree86.org and wallow in my pity?

> > It really annoys me that the manpage for "xf86cfg" admits:
> > "BUGS
> > 	Probably."
> > How mature and user-friendly.  It may as well have lines following this saying:
> > "EASE-OF-INSTALLATION-FOR-A-MODERATELY-INTELLIGENT-INSTALLER
> > 	Superbly difficult.  Find a grain of salt on a beach then check back here."
> Frankly, I think this tool is garbage. Not one time has it ever configured X for me correctly (20+ attempts at different times.) I've always used xf86config, which works fine.

I think they should make two tools, the capitalized one "XF86CFG" would run
in a GUI and the "xf86cfg" one would run in a text-only menu similar to
xf86config which I just ran and was failed once again miserably...

> The sysmouse device should already exist. If it doesn't, MAKEDEV it.

I have tried both editing the XF86Config.new file and `ln -s /dev/sysmouse
/dev/mouse` but am failing on both accounts, seemingly?

> > What are my chances at get this working TO- DAY- ??!!! :(
> Trust me, it's not as hard as it looks from the outside.  Don't try to eat it all at once. Take small bites.
> mike

I have taken small bites since Feb 9th or 16th, it's been so long I can't
recall!  Being X-less is really not fun, and having to go to the local
library to graphically browse the web using WinBloze equally sux.

> "MR NUTTY SAID EATING RICE VERMICELLI WILL MAKE YOUR GARDEN GROW!!!"
> 	- Little Girl from "WHAT WILL MAKE YOUR GARDEN GROW"

Who is this Little Girl anyway? :)

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Peter Leftwich
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