From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 15:36:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69E72F35 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx0.gentlemail.de (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1190E2A7B for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mh0.gentlemail.de (ezra.dcm1.omnilan.net [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a135]) by mx0.gentlemail.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s77FaFoW037814; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:36:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de) Received: from titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net (titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net [IPv6:2001:a60:f0bb:1::3:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh0.gentlemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34DF138BD; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:36:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53E39CEE.9040507@omnilan.de> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 17:36:14 +0200 From: Harald Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: How to submit new Ports References: <53E2040F.1000000@xenet.de> <53E209D3.8040400@my.hennepintech.edu> <53E2111F.7030604@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <53E2111F.7030604@sorbs.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig77A26696D8BF4BE909E81610" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 17:36:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: mx0.gentlemail.de; Sender-ip: ; Sender-helo: mh0.gentlemail.de; ) Cc: meyser@xenet.de, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:36:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig77A26696D8BF4BE909E81610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bez=FCglich Michelle Sullivan's Nachricht vom 06.08.2014 13:27 (localtim= e): > =85 >>> P.S. I don`t want to create an bugzilla account. >>> =20 >> =85 > Further all you need to do is set a password.. and as Koobs said, > reports are a higher quality. Personally I started submitting pr's jus= t > before the change to bugzilla, and I find the bugzilla: > > 1/ Easier to report (click the right buttons, add a subject, add a > patch/attachment, submit) > 2/ Easier to reply/update - you can add comments new attachments at any= > time without any hassle > 3/ You get faster responses from the admins/commiters/testers. > > All in all personally I think the move to bugzilla was a good move for = all. Unfortunately I can't share your experience. Any time I log in, having my e-mail address auto-filled into 'requester' and 'requestee', result is -> "No requests." Which isn't true of course. I have to search for "samba41" e.g., to find my own submission. The response time is in no way related to the kind of bug tracking system, at least not if it's about gnats vs. bugzilla. In my example case, response or any other form of activity is lagging more than what I was used to with gnats. My personal experience is, that in the last decade, not much has changed, since I found bugzilla to be one of the most inconvenient bug tracking systems out there in the early/mid 2000s (when my choice for various projects over decent time was "doublechocolate" :-) 'send-pr' encouraged/admonished/forced admins to deploy sensible mailhubs (internal DNS RRs) and gateway-masquerading. I've never seen that beeing wasted effort =96 it's always been beneficial for the whole infratructure and the admins' skills :-) If you once read send-pr and submitted your first PR, it was easy and clear how to fill out subsequent PRs. In my opinion, much more clearly than with bugzilla, where I have to rethink all the bells and whistles each time (btw, what does 'triage' mean?!?). I haven't had to look into bug tracking systems for some years, but since I was now urged to deal with bugzilla, I fear this choice was one of the quick ones. But maybe the developers profit from the change. Regards, -Harry --------------enig77A26696D8BF4BE909E81610 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlPjnO4ACgkQLDqVQ9VXb8j9+gCguVC3nr37R1lNnbSoPybQ4uiu a60AoJqHGUyZO19e+wgAdAcMcSEp2nwS =UsVW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig77A26696D8BF4BE909E81610--