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Date:      Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:27 +0000 (UTC)
From:      Viktor Madarasz <viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG>
To:        Evilham <contact@evilham.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Question (fwd)
Message-ID:  <alpine.NEB.2.21.2004081537450.9589@otaku.sdf.org>
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Hi Evilham

Very nicely written article I liked it ... I also saw there is a FreeBSD 
Porting Manual/Handbook

By the look of it with my untrained eye it looked a lot like shell 
scripting and following a given syntax and cheking builds and update 
dependencies ---> this with my eyes without having a clue so dont judge me 
on that :)

This definetly looks like something which interests me indeed...

I always thought porting would mean to bring something over which does not 
exist .. from zero .. like SecureCRT (has it open thats why, its a closed 
source SSH/Terminal emulator has windows/mac os / linux versions ) and 
figure out how to make it work on FreeBSD ** without it existing in any 
form of port or binary for FreeBSD **

Where can I go to get some more step by step and training materials on 
this Porting thing? IRC? other mail list? Telegram chat?

Regards

Viktor

  On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, Evilham wrote:

> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200
> From: Evilham <contact@evilham.com>
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Question (fwd)
> 
> Hey,
>
> On dt., abr. 07 2020, Viktor Madarasz wrote:
>
>> viktormadarasz@sdf.org
>> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:52:50 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Viktor Madarasz <viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG>
>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Question
>>
>>   I would like to contribute to FreeBSD. I can NOT code ( very   shallow 
>> C++
>> knowledge I pretty much got confused the moment the object oriented 
>> concepts
>> being brought in and the whole mindset ( way to think as a programmer) 
>> always
>> confuses me :) )
>> 
>> So what else would be there for me? Documentation? or something else? ( 
>> English
>> and Hungarian could work for me and maybe even Spanish but My English and
>> Hungarian are way better :) )
>
>
> Helping out with ports doesn't *usually* require programming per se.
> My approach to help out with limited time has been to help fix things I see 
> that need fixing.
>
> Here is something I wrote about updating ports (with tons of links to things 
> I wish I had known :-))
> https://evilham.com/en/blog/2020-FreeBSD-updating-a-port-twisted-python/
>
> Creating ports is similarly not much of a programming effort, so if you see 
> something that is missing and would be desirable, you can look into it.
> If you can identify a similar piece of software (as in: same programming 
> language, similar architecture, ...), you might be able to extrapolate from 
> that other port to create your own; otherwise the porter's handbook is a good 
> resource and generally just asking on #freebsd-ports might point you in the 
> right direction.
>
> Documentation is indeed also a great way, just can't speak for that as much 
> yet.
>
>
>> Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country where I 
>> live-reside
>> (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good opportunity to do so as
>> there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write English, 
>> Spanish ,
>> Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with those languages 
>> as
>> well...
>> 
>> Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these things?
>
>
> Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; though in my 
> case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have physical meetings be easier for 
> the post-COVID world.
> Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit like PyBCN), to 
> facilitate participation of local computer-people who might not be as 
> well-versed in English.
> Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, just make sure 
> not to exclude people on a language basis.
>
> For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't managed to do 
> anything with it just yet.
> I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an abandoned effort; 
> you might be able to get in touch with them and maybe do a friendly, mutually 
> agreed, domain take over and revive it :-) (that would be pretty cool).
>
> As for how to do these things... It's tricky because it's something social 
> and it's a bunch of *constant, reliable* work.
> During the past, say 15-20 episodes of https://bsdnow.tv, there have been 
> quite a few mentions about how to start such an effort.
> (You'd have to look into e.g. the RSS feed and find those, but if you haven't 
> yet, it's a good podcast worth listening regardless of these particular bits)
>
> At the very least it sounds like announcing you'll do such a thing here, 
> probably on Twitter *and* fediverse, and shooting an email with enough head 
> time to the BSD Now people is a decent way to start.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Evilham
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