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Date:      Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:12:44 -0500
From:      Jon Noack <noackjr@alumni.rice.edu>
To:        Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Native preemption is the culprit [was Re: today's CURRENT lockups]
Message-ID:  <40EEE01C.6090400@alumni.rice.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20040709180635.GA11419@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On 07/09/04 13:06, Steve Kargl wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 12:53:53PM -0500, Jon Noack wrote:
>> On 07/09/04 12:25, Steve Kargl wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 12:19:09PM -0500, Jon Noack wrote:
>>>> On 07/09/04 12:15, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>>> My test machine is not a true SMP machine either, just HTT.
>>>>> It has been running a -j 256 worldloop overnight with no
>>>>> problems, so I committed a slightly modified version of the
>>>>> patch yesterday.
>>>> 
>>>> Did you test with a UP kernel?  After your latest commit I have
>>>>  been experiencing regular hard locks on my pre-HTT P4 machine.
>>>>  Backing out rev. 1.114 of sched_ule.c fixes it.  See my
>>>> previous message (Re: FreeBSD keeps hanging......): 
>>>> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?40EECC49.3070501
>>> 
>>> I've tested it on a UP kernel (HTT enabled, ACPI disabled, APIC 
>>> enabled, ULE).   Appears to work fine.
>> 
>> Perhaps it's just extraneous information, but if it's really a UP
>> kernel (as in, no 'options SMP') then whether you have HTT enabled
>> doesn't matter at all -- the kernel won't use it.
> 
> Yes, I know. :-)  I'm just reporting what dmesg tells me about the
> CPU.
> 
> CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 2.00GHz (1994.12-MHz
> 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf27  Stepping = 7 
> Features=0xbfebf9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>

Mine also lists HTT, but doesn't actually support it:
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz (2539.10-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf24  Stepping = 4
 
Features=0x3febfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM>

I remember a discussion about this a long time ago, but don't remember 
the details.  Regardless, the flag doesn't actually mean the processor 
supports HTT.

Jon



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