From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 09:26:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F73B16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D588A43D5E for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so41615rns for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:26:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XLYzSyreSYHoP6z7HKD0c75SDpq+6ratSeLWoMzIDucJdBGRCPCNEK30OjXOLTd54Ig20ilfSvNyYskuIh3pZw4YcNytwouADFINIUL1AwoYMGs+0EKCGce+nOniawHwHkNujtOnopvUMzxpr5xcAtQe2kAS3qSuQr05d6ogZdg= Received: by 10.11.33.24 with SMTP id g24mr52577cwg; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d6729180507070226592ac04c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:26:39 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1120724458.1338.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7d6729180507070053147f1ccd@mail.gmail.com> <1120724458.1338.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Subject: Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD & mirrors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:26:40 -0000 On 7/7/05, Robert Slade wrote: > > Ftp mirrors etc can be found at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.htm= l Yep ... thanks. I've got the web pages for the mirrors, several at this time. Trying to establish the connection with something other than a web browser is the problem. OKay -- using WS FTP lite, I enter in the host name/address of ftp.freebsd.org (have also used a couple dozen specifc directories here & at various mirror sites).User ID is ''anonymous'' with no password entered (have also used my email address as the password; same result). RESULT : > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 > WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. > - - > ! Can't get "ftp.freebsd.org/" host entry > ! Connection failed ftp.freebsd.org/ Connection type is binary, port is standard 21, using passive transfer. So, using one of many mirrors I've tried as another example, the problem remains : > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 > WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. > - - > ! Can't get "ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/" host entry > ! Connection failed ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ or ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD yeilda same error. So, willing to go with another FTP software. I realize this old WSFTP is just that .. old, but I've never had it fail me before ... so I'm puzzled. Knowing why this isn't working is pretty important.=20 Shooting around in the dark at ''maybe'' is really just wasting time required elsewhere. As posted yesterday, the http:// connections keep breaking without the ability to resume an interrupted transfer. This is a local problem due to power fluctuations and flaky cable service. An ISO DL takes an estimated hour per 100 MB ... so the 550 CD1 ISO for freeBSD is ~5 1/2 hour DL, up to 6 1/2 hours. I have actually managed partial DL'z up to 300 & 500 MB in the last several days ... but, when they are interrupted, I have to begin from zero again using a web browser. So, drop back & punt: use ftp software that has a resume function, as recommended at http://freebsd.org. This is what FTP is designed to do. Why can my standard ftp software not ''get'' the host entry ? What am I doing wrong here ? Is this some *BSD-windows configuration war ...? I've used WSFTP for a decade now to connect to *nix servers from Win9*/NT/2K and never had this issue. So, thanks for the gozilla.com link; I'll check it out. It just seems cludgy to install plugins to a web browser when FTP should work & should work faster/ more efficiently. Sorry this thread got re-posted ... I've never run across a mail listserv that didn't automatically take a reply-to back to the listserv, so I had to repost the question under a different subject.=20 Bizarre setting I'm sure I'll find out the 'why' about some day ... Other caveat .. I am based in Riga, Latvia. I could write a small book about it, but let's just summarize that buying anything over the internet from here is largely a waste of money and time. An ebay transaction for a ISO images would chew up weeks and cost stupid amounts of money. $10 USD is a food budget for an entire week here, not to be thrown away lightly. I should be able to connect via ftp & have both ISO's for freeBSD 5.4 in about 12 hours time, tops, if I can just find out the magic settings to make the ftp servers show up in my ftp software. Besides, I foresee the need to have to ftp from these sites for quite a number of items as I need them. Getting into two and three week shipping/payment negotiations each time i need something (or _might_ need it & have to DL it to find out ...) is really a rather silly methodology. I'm having a hard time believing that nobody on this list has established an ftp connection to one of these servers. Understanding what I'm doing wrong here seems to be the best approach. ''throw money at someone'' ''click here'' ''install that'' & pray are the sorts of solutions that *BSD is supposed to NOT be about. Have I misunderstood that? -- datora serfing the stream electric