From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 12:23:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4110E16A4F4 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from arginine.spc.org (arginine.spc.org [195.206.69.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A9043F75 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:23:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48685653E6; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:00:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 79710-01-2; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:00:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saboteur.dek.spc.org (unknown [82.147.19.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532AD653DF; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:00:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: by saboteur.dek.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5AC8111; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:59:52 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:59:52 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Richard Coleman Message-ID: <20031121025952.GA85809@saboteur.dek.spc.org> References: <2147483647.1069240727@[192.168.42.6]> <20031120095214.GA68334@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <050d01c3afa8$1dfb97a0$b9844051@insultant.net> <156539179.20031121001033@andric.com> <061f01c3afbd$4692a040$b9844051@insultant.net> <3FBD788A.4070809@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FBD788A.4070809@mindspring.com> cc: Dimitry Andric cc: "boyd, rounin" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:23:36 -0000 On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:29:30PM -0500, Richard Coleman wrote: > But I've often wondered how frequently a production system has such > problems. I've been a sysadmin for many years and can't remember this > ever happening. It's much more common to blow a hard drive, or have > flaky memory, etc. During my time in an investment bank, installations were usually hosed in this way by human error (systems administrators removing a file by accident, etc) or by third party package installation. The OS in question was Solaris. BMS