From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 10:48:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23CC16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:48:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.4nets.lv (126-4.zlt1.4nets.lv [217.199.126.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E96F43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:48:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atissita@navigator.lv) Received: from localhost (4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD237B3C05B for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.4nets.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.4nets.lv [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23916-03 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from [217.199.123.36] (unknown [217.199.123.36]) by mail.4nets.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id B897DB3C027 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:46:19 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41E5012F.3070702@navigator.lv> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:51:27 +0200 From: zork User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <41E3F862.3030004@navigator.lv> <20050111162009.GA33518@keyslapper.org> <41E405E9.4070906@navigator.lv> <20050111172251.GB47740@keyslapper.org> <41E419D6.4090107@navigator.lv> <20050111185109.GD47740@keyslapper.org> <41E43722.1090204@navigator.lv> <20050111203221.GI47740@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20050111203221.GI47740@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at 4nets.lv Subject: Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:48:06 -0000 hmm.. it turned out that the problem was not in the drivers or anywhere relevant. Some stupid network monitoring desktop applet (which counts incoming/outgoing IP packets) i had enabled just for fun was somehow causing this weird behavior. Since it didn't show up in the 'top' program or anywhere else for that matter I was fooled into believing that the problem might be in the drivers or somewhere.. I have no idea how it could manage to do something like that, it's also funny that some apps were unaffected. Anyway, now it all works for me. Thanks for the agp advice! Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 01/11/05 10:29 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: > >>ok.. even though there wasn't anything useful in the Xorg logfile, >>after recompiling the kernel i get: >> >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 4x >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled >>hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: disabled >> >>Now this almost doubles the frame rates, which is nice to see :) > > > Most Excellent Dude. > > >>Alas, the problem still remains :( > > > Totally Bogus. > > What app are you getting the hinky video from? > > >>Will try upgrading everything tomorrow.. > > > Most Righteous. > > Just make sure you get all the dependencies when you do. > > Good luck > Lou > > >>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >> >>>Ok, according to your sysctls, you aren't getting the AGP acceleration >>>at all. >>> >>>Try adding these lines to your card device section: >>> Option "RenderAccel" "True" >>> Option "NvAGP" "1" # Use NVIDIAs agp >>> >>>Then restart X. >>> >>>Check your hw.nvidia.agp sysctls, particularly these: >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled >>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) >>> >>>You want status to be enabled, and rate to be 2x or 4x. >>> >>>>From the sysctls below, it looks like the NvAGP setting is already >>>turned on, so that appears to be a default. >>> >>>Since it's still not working, I suspect that if you check your >>>/var/log/Xorg.0.log file for warnings (WW) or errors (EE) related to AGP >>>use, you'll find something about the native FreeBSD AGP. If you are >>>using a GENERIC kernel ("uname -a" will tell you), that's almost >>>certainly what's happening. >>> >>>>From what I've read, the native FreeBSD AGP doesn't always work with >>>NVidia cards. You'll have to compile a custom kernel with the following >>>line removed: >>>device agp >>>Check here for details: >>>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html >>> >>>Also, I'd recommend updating your ports and upgrading Xorg. You might >>>also want to build and install the x11/nvidia-drivers port. >>> >>>Lou >>> >>>On 01/11/05 08:24 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>> >>> >>>>well, Xorg -version says >>>>X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 >>>> >>>>I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. >>>> >>>>I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. >>>> >>>>the device section: >>>> >>>>Section "Device" >>>> Identifier "MyGeForce" >>>> Driver "nvidia" >>>> VendorName "NVIDIA" >>>> BoardName "GeForce4 MX 440" >>>>EndSection >>>> >>>>the sysctls: >>>> >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000017:0x00000000 >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) >>>>hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) >>>>hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 >>>>Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 >>>>hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 >>>>hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 >>>>hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 >>>>hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 >>>>hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP >>>> >>>>kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. >>>> >>>>I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. >>>> >>>>As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature >>>>which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? >>>> >>>>Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest >>>>versions and see what happens then. >>>>Not so sure that it would help though :( >>>> >>>>One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating >>>>to agp. How is it enabled? >>>> >>>>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Next set of questions: >>>>>Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or >>>>>as a package? >>>>> >>>>>Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from >>>>>ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? >>>>> >>>>>What is the card def block in your X config? >>>>> >>>>>What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: "sysctl hw.nvidia" just in >>>>>case)? >>>>> >>>>>Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last >>>>>week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems >>>>>there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just >>>>>not be able to get it working. >>>>> >>>>>My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. >>>>> My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. >>>>> NVidia GeForce FX5200. >>>>> Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. >>>>> Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports >>>>> Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. >>>>> >>>>>I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors >>>>>presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny >>>>>ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. >>>>>That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it >>>>>working. >>>>> >>>>>Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you >>>>>can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. >>>>> >>>>>Good luck. >>>>>Lou >>>>> >>>>>On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>well, yes. the module section looks like this: >>>>>> >>>>>>Section "Module" >>>>>> Load "freetype" >>>>>> # Load "xtt" >>>>>> Load "extmod" >>>>>> Load "glx" >>>>>> Load "dri" >>>>>> Load "dbe" >>>>>> Load "record" >>>>>> Load "xtrap" >>>>>> Load "type1" >>>>>> Load "speedo" >>>>>>EndSection >>>>>> >>>>>>Louis LeBlanc wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers >>>>>>>>for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL >>>>>>>>do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze >>>>>>>>for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, >>>>>>>>however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, >>>>>>>>and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules >>>>>>>>out system performance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Lou >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >