From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 00:03:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2729A16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from web13507.mail.yahoo.com (web13507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 894AD43FE0 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnf006@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20031123080335.29625.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.30.122.76] by web13507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:03:35 PST Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:03:35 -0800 (PST) From: Rahul Fernandez To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <20031121094019.GB78082@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can I install packages only for my release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:03:36 -0000 > > The secret is that once you've installed the system, put away > sysinstall(1). Learn how to use the system level commands for > installing packages -- particularly pkg_add(1). Even better, use the > ports tree. This may sound terrifying to the uninitiated: "what, you > mean I should compile all this stuff from source?!" but that's the > beauty of the ports system. Hi, Thanks for the response. I understand that the ports system is the most up-to-date. However, if I choose to install a package (to install very large packages like openoffice or mozilla say), am I am correct in thinking that I must install from the the directory set aside for my release? If this is the case why is it not a good idea to use sysinstall? Thanks, Rahul __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 00:10:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E615916A4CE; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417C243FAF; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70112AE096; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49660-06; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A56E4AE088; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20031123081002.A56E4AE088@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-11-02 - 2003-11-22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:10:10 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 00:21:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7533216A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwe.compwest.com.au (computerwest.com.au [202.72.158.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06EE43FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@bdug.org.au) Received: from mail.bdug.org.au (ant.parkview.compwest.com.au [202.72.147.43]) by cwe.compwest.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAN8LN8m043105 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:21:27 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from paul@bdug.org.au) Received: from wks (wks.bdug.org.au [192.168.0.2]) by mail.bdug.org.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E0625BC6; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:21:06 +0800 (WST) From: "Paul Hamilton" To: "Lowell Gilbert" Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:21:15 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <44smkhmbtv.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> cc: Freebsd-Questions Subject: RE: Automatically encrypting data files in a partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:21:36 -0000 Thanks for that Lowell! Looks like it might work. I will have a play with it! Cheers, Paul Hamilton -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: Saturday, 22 November 2003 9:28 AM To: Paul Hamilton Cc: Freebsd-Questions Subject: Re: Automatically encrypting data files in a partition. "Paul Hamilton" writes: > I need a way to store different directory trees and files with different > encryption keys, i.e.. > > /data/mars /data/mars/one /data/mars/two etc all are encrypted with one > key and > > /data/venus /data/venus/one /data/venus/two etc, would have a different > key. > > Ideally, the directory structure, and file names wouldn't be encrypted. > /data is an independent partition. > > Some of these files, could be MS Office data files, others might be MS > program *.exe files etc. It would be nice if this happened at the > filesystem level, i.e., I would enter a key and the root dir name for each > 'data tree' into the config file, reload the config file into the > 'encryption filesystem program' and all would be sweet ;-) The closest thing I know of is cfs (in the ports). It encrypts some of the directory structures as well, which is usually desirable because they can contain secret information as well (think of a file named "CompanyX_Merge_Plans.doc"). I don't know if it's capable of handling passphrases centrally as opposed to on a user-session basis, but if so, you would need someone with the password present every time you booted the machine. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 00:29:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD50716A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.covadmail.net (mx05.covadmail.net [63.65.120.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A245B43FBD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:29:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from denyocum1@covad.net) Received: (covad.net 13175 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2003 08:29:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dendesk) (66.134.132.186) by sun-qmail16 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 08:29:20 -0000 Message-ID: <00af01c3b19b$eb722740$6501a8c0@dendesk> From: "Dennis M. Yocum" To: References: <444qwxizib.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:29:32 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Fwd: newbee help on freebsd email server setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:29:26 -0000 thank you there are many in ports i am running a simple freebsd server dedicated for email so far anyway i want to have about 15 people getting email do you have any reccommendations? (wont hold ya to it) thanks again den ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Gilbert" To: ; ; Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: newbee help on freebsd email server setup > > > here is the problem i cant track down.....when i send mail to an > > account set up on mailserver (thru adduser) and using an remote > > source email server.....when i use a pc through windows 2000 > > running outlook express i cannot retrieve the mail...it comes back > > with error message 550 host unknown.... > > Outlook Express is probably trying to use POP or some other mailbox > protocol (maybe IMAP) to download the messages. Sendmail has nothing > to do with it at this level; you need a POP server to allow POP > downloading of messages. There are several in the ports system. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 01:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3416A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwe.compwest.com.au (computerwest.com.au [202.72.158.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6027843FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@bdug.org.au) Received: from mail.bdug.org.au (ant.parkview.compwest.com.au [202.72.147.43]) by cwe.compwest.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAN9Od8m043219 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:24:39 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from paul@bdug.org.au) Received: from wks (wks.bdug.org.au [192.168.0.2]) by mail.bdug.org.au (Postfix) with SMTP id A1D205BC6 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:24:34 +0800 (WST) From: "Paul Hamilton" To: "Freebsd-Questions" Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:24:43 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: PCI Raid 5 cards for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:24:48 -0000 Hi, I have seen both the Promise and 3ware raid cards mentioned over time in this mailing list. I would like to be able to run a 1-2TB raid 5 SATA on FreeBSD 4.9. Is anyone using a card from these suppliers? Will FreeBSD install on a Raid 5 array (after it has been configured in the Array BIOS)? Does FreeBSD have any in built driver/mechanism to monitor the array's health? Is there another SATA Raid controller company out there I have missed, that covers FreeBSD? Cheers, Paul Hamilton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 01:41:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E3016A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E6943FDF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:41:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hAN9fWAS009984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:41:34 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id hAN9fWua009983; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:41:32 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:41:32 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Rahul Fernandez Message-ID: <20031123094132.GA9494@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Rahul Fernandez , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20031121094019.GB78082@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20031123080335.29625.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031123080335.29625.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can I install packages only for my release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:41:43 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 12:03:35AM -0800, Rahul Fernandez wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > The secret is that once you've installed the system, put away > > sysinstall(1). Learn how to use the system level commands for > > installing packages -- particularly pkg_add(1). Even better, use the > > ports tree. This may sound terrifying to the uninitiated: "what, you > > mean I should compile all this stuff from source?!" but that's the > > beauty of the ports system.=20 >=20 > Hi, Thanks for the response. I understand that the ports system is the mo= st > up-to-date. However, if I choose to install a package (to install very la= rge > packages like openoffice or mozilla say), am I am correct in thinking tha= t I must > install from the the directory set aside for my release? If this is the c= ase why > is it not a good idea to use sysinstall? No, you don't have to install from the per-release directory on the FTP site -- that's really only a record of the packages as shipped with the 4 CD release set. So long as you understand that a) you must choose a package compiled against a system with the same major version number; b) you should choose packages compiled against a system version that isn't too different from where you're going to install -- the wider the gap, the greater the possibility of things not working and c) you must update all of the package dependencies correctly before you update the package of interest, which means that if the package version of any dependency was updated between the package set when your original system was installed and the more recent package set you're using now, then you first have to update the dependency =66rom the more recent set. If you've got all that, then go right ahead. On the other hand, using the ports system means that you don't have to worry about any of these considerations, especially if you use portupgrade(1), which will automate the dependency ordering for you. The other consideration is that for certain packages, you may want to install something that was generated outside the regular FreeBSD ports/packages system. The classic examples here are OpenOffice, where installing the packages from http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/ is a very popular route, and the Diablo Java JDK and JRE packages available from http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml Why not use sysinstall(8)? Basically, it's too simple minded. It's designed to be small and simple and to install packages from precisely the set supplied with the installation media. This is good for beginners (whose first exposure to FreeBSD is often via installing the system) but not up to the general professional standard of the system as a whole. Think of sysinstall as like the "training wheels" you had when you were trying to learn to ride a bike as a kid. Of course, my word is not law, and if sysinstall does what you want and you're happy with it, then carry right on using it. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wIDMdtESqEQa7a0RAhdmAJ9BP77HtofFzc19cG/2eKwCvJoLyQCeN0PD xgHiPAVn0eEJ/2maYSdONNk= =i5iv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 01:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3376916A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:48:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE4A43FBD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:48:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAN9m6pd097582; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:48:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:48:07 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311230948.hAN9m6pd097582@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: wegster@mindcore.net In-reply-to: <3FBFEE6B.4000803@mindcore.net> (message from Scott W on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:16:59 -0500) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311222258.hAMMwApd092388@fw.farid-hajji.net> <3FBFEE6B.4000803@mindcore.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring a file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:48:52 -0000 > > What is the canonical way to monitor accesses to a file? > You may want to take a look at 'fam,' in /usr/ports/devel/fam , as some > of the code's already been done for this type of monitoring AFAIK... Yes, that is a nice framework to start with. It uses help from the kernel (imon pseudo device on irix or linux), or polls the files with lstat(). It could be extended to use kevent(2) on FBSD... Unfortunately, it still doesn't know which process accessed the files. Hmmm... Thank you. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 01:52:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280E216A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7078843F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:52:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hAN9qaAS010121 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:52:37 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id hAN9qZbh010120; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:52:35 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:52:35 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Ben Dover Message-ID: <20031123095235.GB9494@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Ben Dover , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pidentd troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:52:43 -0000 --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 03:28:09PM -0500, Ben Dover wrote: > I was running pidentd server in fbsd 5.1 and ran into a problem. On rebo= ot=20 > thousands of identd processes would be created. This caused an enormous= =20 > problem as you can imagine. I ended up doing a pkg_delete of pidentd. H= as=20 > anyone had this happen? >=20 > I need a reliable ident server; can anyone recommend one from ports? Why not use the ident server built into inetd(8)? No extra ports required. =46rom the default inetd.conf: # Provide internally a real "ident" service which provides ~/.fakeid su= pport, # provides ~/.noident support, reports UNKNOWN as the operating system = type # and times out after 30 seconds. # auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o= UNKNOWN -t 30 auth stream tcp6 nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o= UNKNOWN -t 30 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wINjdtESqEQa7a0RAlGmAJ9AjuksxAx/uPjW5czm0XW7EvRVYwCgglpT 48y/nXvzIOzZoAhjklD5BVU= =0LHu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 02:01:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557F716A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9675043FBF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:01:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANA0Wpd097626; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311231000.hANA0Wpd097626@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: MLandman@face2interface.com In-reply-to: <6.0.0.22.0.20031122185606.02ddc240@pop.face2interface.com> (message from Marty Landman on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:06:37 -0500) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311222258.hAMMwApd092388@fw.farid-hajji.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031122185606.02ddc240@pop.face2interface.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring a file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:01:25 -0000 > > A file, let's say, /path/to/a/file, is being modified by > > an unknown process P(u) at random times. Unfortunately, > > the name of the program ran by P(u) is unknown. > > I'd think the failsafe way to approach this is with a wrapper so that when > process P accesses file F it's really accessing W(F), i.e. a software > wrapper which would then emulate F, only since W's a pgm it can also log > the activity as well as reply to P with basically whatever you want it to > reply with. Unfortunately, FreeBSD doesn't have the equivalent of GNU/Hurd translators. On the Hurd, the filesystems are served by userland programs called translators. It is possible to set a translator anywhere on the filesystem. This is similar to a mount(8), with the difference that you can mount a program instead of a raw device. This program (translator in Hurd parlance) would serve VFS requests and actually reply to calls like open(), read(), write(), etc... A translator actually intercepts the VFS calls. In this case, it would be trivial to do a ps [or on the Hurd to query the proc server], and obtain at least a list of running processes in a very timely fashion [P(u) would certainly be present at that time!]. Because the translator replies directly to P(u), it *may* be possible to identify P(u) this way... Perhaps FreeBSD's mount_portal(8) could be used for this? I'm not familiar with portalfs... > Would ln(1) be able to serve as the setup for W? I've only done soft links > for directory aliasing on websites. So I don't know if you can get away > with e.g. having a shebang line on top W and expect it to execute; if you > could work it that way though you'd be golden afaict. A she bang would be useless here, because P(u) uses, say, open() and read(), not exec(). The kernel would never try to execute the file, and would therefore not try to read the she-bang line. > Rereading this I > realize for W to work it'd also have to be able to know who P is, i.e. the > process and what it was wanting to do so it could emulate it. Or is there a > way to just have W pass F on to P after logging the activity? And why do I > suddenly crave a bowl of alphabet soup? That is precisely the problem here. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 02:14:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F00B16A4CE; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA50B43FBD; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:14:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANADTpd097665; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:13:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:13:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311231013.hANADTpd097665@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: grog@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <20031123002851.GD82843@wantadilla.lemis.com> (grog@FreeBSD.org) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311222258.hAMMwApd092388@fw.farid-hajji.net> <20031123002851.GD82843@wantadilla.lemis.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring a file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:14:09 -0000 > > What is the canonical way to monitor accesses to a file? > > > > Problem description: > > ==================== > > > > A file, let's say, /path/to/a/file, is being modified by > > an unknown process P(u) at random times. Unfortunately, > > the name of the program ran by P(u) is unknown. > > > > The goal is to catch P(u) "red-handed," just the moment > > it accesses /path/to/a/file, e.g. by looking up in the > > process table with ps(1). > > That's not exactly red-handed, it's just not too long afterwards. Right. Ideally, the kernel should block P(u), notify P(m), and then unblock P(u). Of course, this doesn't happen with the current kernels (?). > I don't think you're going to find a simple answer to this one. If I > had this problem, I'd probably build a kernel with special code to > recognize opens on this file (so that you can get the address of the > file table) and writes to it (though this may be redundant). The code > would enter the kernel debugger or maybe just panic, depending on the > environment. That way you'd really catch the culprit red-handed. Yes, that was the idea with the debug nfsd. P(u) would block as long as debug-nfsd didn't reply, and would be hanging around in the process table. Surely, P(u) would still not be directly identifiable by debug-nfsd. Modifying the kernel really seems to be the only solution here. > An alternative might depend on knowledge of what the file does. It is a DNS map. On that special host, named is not even running, so I suspect some rogue program. And no, there's nothing in crontab either.... However, the problem is more general than this. I just hoped that a generic solution exists. > Greg Thank you for all the help. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 02:18:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D14B16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0CF43FE3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANAHvpd097677; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:17:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:17:57 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311231017.hANAHvpd097677@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: roberthuff@rcn.com In-reply-to: <16320.5175.69241.145102@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (message from Robert Huff on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:58:15 -0500) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311222258.hAMMwApd092388@fw.farid-hajji.net> <16320.5175.69241.145102@jerusalem.litteratus.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring a file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:18:37 -0000 > > A file, let's say, /path/to/a/file, is being modified by > > an unknown process P(u) at random times. Unfortunately, > > the name of the program ran by P(u) is unknown. > > Have you tried moving the file elsewhere and seeing if anyone > complains about the absence? No, P(u) obviously fails silently. There's nothing recorded by syslog, no messages on the console, and no core dumps... > Or writing a program that locks the file? That was a good idea. However, P(u) didn't seem to take a lock. Advisory locks are just that: if P(u) doesn't lock the file, existing locks don't matter at all. Do we have mandatory locks in FreeBSD? Thank you. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 02:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF1A16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from cgp.agava.net (cgp.agava.net [195.161.118.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF69443F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:22:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@stcozon.7.com1.ru) Received: from [81.195.162.18] (account toor@stcozon.7.com1.ru) by cgp.agava.net (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 15079776 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:22:19 +0300 From: "toor" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:22:19 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <44r8008oyu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: About setup FreeBSD 5.1 RELEASE to Sony notebook PCG-R505GCK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:22:23 -0000 On 22 Nov 2003 09:20:09 -0500 Lowell Gilbert wrote: >"toor" writes: > >> On 21 Nov 2003 09:06:31 -0500 >> Lowell Gilbert >> wrote: >> >"toor" writes: >> > >> >> When I begin setup I see next message: >> >> eisa0: on motherboard >> >> eisa0: unknown card B@H0000 (0x08080000) at slot 1 >> >> Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in >>kernel mode >> >> instruction pointer = 0x58:0x81d1 >> >> stack pointer = 0x10:0xeb8 >> >> frame pointer = 0x10:0xf0e >> >> code segment = base 0xc00f0000, limit 0xffff, >>type 0x1b >> >> = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0 >> >> processor elfags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL >>= 0 >> >> current process = 0 (swapper) >> >> trap number = 9 >> >> panic: general protectin fault >> >> What must I do to setup freeBSD to my notebook. >> > >> >Do you need 5.1? >> >http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.1R/early-adopter.html >> >> You mean that I must install FreeBSD ver 4.9 RELEASE??? > >I don't mean that at all. Just that you should be aware >that FreeBSD >5.x is not intended for production use at this time. I install FreeBSD 5.1 RELEASE, I patch pnpbios function in bios.c and bild kernel. When I can boot and install to my notebook. As it proved, boot image from CDROM/floppies/boot.flp content bad kernel or mfsroot, because when I install and reboot - FreeBSD 5.1 RELEASE will load successfully:). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 02:36:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986A316A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB97B43FE0 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:35:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hANAZiAS010629 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:35:47 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id hANAZiDN010628; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:35:44 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:35:44 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Cordula's Web" Message-ID: <20031123103544.GD9494@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Cordula's Web , roberthuff@rcn.com, questions@freebsd.org References: <200311222258.hAMMwApd092388@fw.farid-hajji.net> <16320.5175.69241.145102@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200311231017.hANAHvpd097677@fw.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="P+33d92oIH25kiaB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311231017.hANAHvpd097677@fw.farid-hajji.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: roberthuff@rcn.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring a file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:36:00 -0000 --P+33d92oIH25kiaB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 11:17:57AM +0100, Cordula's Web wrote: > > > A file, let's say, /path/to/a/file, is being modified by > > > an unknown process P(u) at random times. Unfortunately, > > > the name of the program ran by P(u) is unknown. > >=20 > > Have you tried moving the file elsewhere and seeing if anyone > > complains about the absence? >=20 > No, P(u) obviously fails silently. There's nothing recorded > by syslog, no messages on the console, and no core dumps... >=20 > > Or writing a program that locks the file? >=20 > That was a good idea. However, P(u) didn't seem to take a lock. > Advisory locks are just that: if P(u) doesn't lock the file, > existing locks don't matter at all. Do we have mandatory locks > in FreeBSD? Not a lock as such, but: # chflags schg /path/to/a/file should achieve the effect you desire. Although this will cause any write on the file to just fail, rather than causing P(u) to block waiting for a lock. You could try replacing /path/to/a/file with a fifo (see mkfifo(1)), and maybe hang another process on the other end of the fifo which can run ps(1) or fstat(1) when a write is detected. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --P+33d92oIH25kiaB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wI2AdtESqEQa7a0RAgtWAJ40lwDH9UydRUmtw8UGTwfsMoKpVACff9Nd OQJqWMhVSjyd9Ufsf3049sw= =m0x5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --P+33d92oIH25kiaB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 03:17:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44CE16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3821843FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:17:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id hANBHBnV020674; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:17:11 +0200 Message-Id: <200311231117.hANBHBnV020674@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 23 Nov 03 13:17:13 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 23 Nov 03 13:16:55 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: Scott W Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:16:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FBFD40C.6020703@mindcore.net> References: <200311222031.hAMKVwm2006917@lv.raad.tartu.ee> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:17:14 -0000 Hello! I wrote: > >If the majority is right and IDE drives cannot be hot swapped, this > >would indicate that we would need to power down the machine every time > >we want to change the backup HDs. This would be less than > >perfect, but since we are cheap we could live with it. > >OTOH I read 'man atacontrol' and saw that there are commands like > >'atacontrol detach' and 'atacontrol attach' which seem to be meant > >for detaching/attaching IDE devices while the machine is running. > >Does this mean that I could actually run 'atacontrol detach ', swap the > >drive and then run 'atacontrol attach ' and be able to use > >the second HD after that? Is anyone doing something like that? To which Scott W replied: > I dislike IDE and tend ot avoid it like the plague when possible, Me too. > but: > 1. The 'generic' removeable drive trays for IDE that use a normal IDE > controller (like attaching to the slave or secondary channel on most > onboard IDE), with another disk or device attached that's being used, do > not support removeable devices. It's _extremely_ likely that you'll > hang the IDE bus. If there is only CD-ROM (which is almost never used) attached as primary master and the removable disk attached as secondary master then maybe I don't need to worry too much about that. > 2. Having mentioned #1 already, it's _possible_ that using a secondary > controller (unsure if this can be the second channel of onboard or not, > but NOT simply the slave of a given channel with another device), and > atacontrol, it appears (no, I have not tried this), you can bring the > controller itself (or channel?) offline, attach or remove the drive, and > then reattach it. I'd like to hear more details on this one myself, and > may have a system I can test it on if I get too bored, but have long ago > chucked my IDE trays.. I'll probably be forced to do some testing on this during next few weeks. I'll keep you posted on the results. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Life ain't fair, but the root password helps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 04:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B38516A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from web14917.mail.yahoo.com (web14917.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D94043FE5 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:21:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nirv199@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20031123122103.74672.qmail@web14917.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.138.51.61] by web14917.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:21:03 PST Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:21:03 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Roberto To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: booting freebsd and openbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:21:03 -0000 Hi, I got 4.9 installed on my machine and I need to be able to dual-boot freebsd and openbsd. The freebsd boot-loader recognizes (F2 BSD) but does not boot the openbsd partition. Do I have to set any extra parameter? thanks, Paulo __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 06:28:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63B416A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from web14705.mail.yahoo.com (web14705.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6812A43FDF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:28:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhljr@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20031123142814.96294.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.217.204.148] by web14705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:28:14 PST Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:28:14 -0800 (PST) From: Danny louis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:28:14 -0000 Hi, I recently Installed FreeBSD on my IBM THinkpad 600x. How do I configure the 56K internal modem for dial up and internet services from scratch? Thanks, Daniel Lewis 561-547-6647 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 06:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C0716A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-29.ig.com.br (smtp-29.ig.com.br [200.226.132.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA2AE43FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:57:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hlen@ig.com.br) Received: (qmail 22743 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2003 14:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ig.com.br) (200.141.82.187) by smtp-29.ig.com.br with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 14:57:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3FC0CAD4.9050909@ig.com.br> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:57:24 -0200 From: Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030525 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hlen@ig.com.br Subject: fsck error messages don't get logged? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:58:05 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:58:05 -0000 Hello all, I just had a crash, and upon reboot fsck displayed these gnarly errors that went by too quick for me to read, my different display lines settings loading on the console making it worse. So I thought, allright, just dmesg. Nothing about the errors there. /var/log/messages? nothing either. Don't these messages get logged anywhere? This is all I get.. (..) Nov 23 12:34:29 localhost kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4a Nov 23 12:34:29 localhost kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted Nov 23 12:34:29 localhost kernel: ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled (..) Thanks in advance for any help, -- Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 06:58:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B590816A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE3043FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:58:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dlavigne6@sympatico.ca) Received: from genisis ([64.230.28.163]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031123145814.ESWJ27650.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@genisis>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:58:14 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:59:19 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: dlavigne6@genisis To: Chris Pressey In-Reply-To: <20031121091437.69587faa.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> Message-ID: <20031123095735.J592@genisis> References: <20031121083701.H599@genisis> <20031121091437.69587faa.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startx and numlocks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:58:17 -0000 On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Chris Pressey wrote: > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:38:24 -0500 (EST) > Dru wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know how to keep numlocks on when using "startx"? I have > > numlocks on in all of my terminals, but when I start X, it goes off. > > Is there a line I can add to ".xinitrc"? > > > > TIA, > > > > Dru > > Hi Dru, > > Have you looked at /usr/ports/x11/numlockx ? Thanks, that does the trick. For those that want to try it, after you've installed the port, add this line to the beginning of your "~/.xinitrc": exec /usr/X11R6/bin/numlockx & Dru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 07:40:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BE416A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta7.adelphia.net (mta7.adelphia.net [68.168.78.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7240243F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:40:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([68.169.105.3]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20031123153408.MTQP4878.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:34:08 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Danny louis" , Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:34:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031123142814.96294.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: RE: Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:40:22 -0000 Read the FBSD handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.ht ml -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danny louis Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:28 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Modem Hi, I recently Installed FreeBSD on my IBM THinkpad 600x. How do I configure the 56K internal modem for dial up and internet services from scratch? Thanks, Daniel Lewis 561-547-6647 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 08:05:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B05316A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:05:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE70A43FF9 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:05:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murphyf+fhs@f-m.fm) Received: from dclient80-218-155-73.hispeed.ch (dclient80-218-155-73.hispeed.ch [80.218.155.73])hANG5BCR008545; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:05:12 +0100 From: Frank Murphy To: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:05:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20031121144116.A712D7E40E@server2.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311231705.46849.murphyf+fhs@f-m.fm> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:05:18 -0000 On Saturday 22 November 2003 8:18, Charles Swiger wrote: > /mnt should be reserved as a default temporary mount point-- it's silly > to risk breaking existing tools or procedures. Anyway, I suggest you > solicit feedback from Solaris users and possibly MacOS X people as > well. Solaris features vold (implied by wanting to use /vol), and the > latter OS places temporary removable mountpoints under /Volumes. The point that /mnt should be left alone is pretty clear, but I'm glad to be able to say "Folks on the FreeBSD questions list agree." As for Mac OS X, they have no intention of being FHS-compliant, so while we may learn some lessons from them, they won't worrz about what we have to say. > I happen to think that OS X handles things well from a user interface > standpoint-- the Finder in Panther with Miller column display and an > eject symbol next to the volume name, but I'm not sure how relevant > that is. Frank, is your group's standard concerned about physical > volume names, logical volume names intended for human > identification/access, or both? > > Physical device names ought to have unit numbers or even be part of a > tree-like device hierarchy-- for instance, what does /cdrom refer to in > a machine with two CD-ROM devices? In the current version of the standard (2.2), nothing. But in the next revision, /foo/cdrom will be a symlink to /foo/cdrom0, and /foo/cdrom1 won't have a link. Managing these links is not the scope of the standard (yet). The priority for the next revision is to define what "/foo" should be. > Human-readable names also run the risk of two removable devices having > the same name; people are happy seeing a list containing duplicate > names (eg, particularly if one name has a CDROM icon next to it, and > the other has a floppy or USB pen icon :-), but that doesn't tell you > what to do with your filesystem hierarchy layout. The actual names of the directories will be undefined, but there will be some suggestions (cdrom, floppy, etc.) > Obviously, a standard that says "place mount points anywhere you want" > isn't very useful. But if you did come up with a standard, who should > follow it and what would they gain? As for who should follow it, Linux distributions (Debian, Red Hat, SuSE) as well as the *BSDs (though I'm not sure exaclty what that means in the BSD world). What would be gained is more for application support. Basically, xmms and xcdroast could configure a /foo/cdrom as a default location, and it will be correct for all FHS-compliant systems. Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 08:23:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB2116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from out010.verizon.net (out010pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E72543FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dvelez502@verizon.net) Received: from david ([162.83.165.95]) by out010.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20031123162348.QQLG18505.out010.verizon.net@david> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:23:48 -0600 Message-ID: <000801c3b1dd$e65932c0$03000004@david> From: "D Velez" To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:21:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out010.verizon.net from [162.83.165.95] at Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:23:48 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FreeBSD 5.1 on a Laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:23:50 -0000 Hi, I was wondering if FreeBSD 5.1 can be install on a laptop? I appreciate any comments Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 09:02:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C3C16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C7243F85 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:02:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANH1ipd098716; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:01:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:01:44 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311231701.hANH1ipd098716@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk In-reply-to: <20031123103544.GD9494@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> (message from Matthew Seaman on Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:35:44 +0000) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311222258.hAMMwApd092388@fw.farid-hajji.net> <16320.5175.69241.145102@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20031123103544.GD9494@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> cc: roberthuff@rcn.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring a file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:02:40 -0000 > > > > A file, let's say, /path/to/a/file, is being modified by > > > > an unknown process P(u) at random times. Unfortunately, > > > > the name of the program ran by P(u) is unknown. > Not a lock as such, but: > > # chflags schg /path/to/a/file > > should achieve the effect you desire. Although this will cause any > write on the file to just fail, rather than causing P(u) to block > waiting for a lock. You could try replacing /path/to/a/file with a > fifo (see mkfifo(1)), and maybe hang another process on the other end > of the fifo which can run ps(1) or fstat(1) when a write is detected. Interesting, but the results were not conclusive. I've finally found the culprit with a traditional method: * md5 (binary from an uncompromised machine) on all files * reinstalling from scratch (not buildworld, but really installing from FTP) * md5 again and diff. /bin/sh and cvsup (!!) were compromised on that machine. The malicious code was in /usr/src/bin/sh/exec.c:shellexec() Additionally, cvsup (and perhaps other programs) must have been corrupt too, because code in /usr/src/bin/sh was never updated. Ugh... system clean again at last. :) Thank you for all your help! -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 09:08:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F245116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lilzmailso01.liwest.at (lilzmailso01.liwest.at [212.33.55.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A380A43FBD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:08:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from [212.33.58.27] (helo=cm58-27.liwest.at) by lilzmailso01.liwest.at with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ANxiP-0000mu-0d; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:08:05 +0100 From: Daniela To: "D Velez" , Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:04:14 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <000801c3b1dd$e65932c0$03000004@david> In-Reply-To: <000801c3b1dd$e65932c0$03000004@david> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311231804.14400.dgw@liwest.at> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.1 on a Laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:08:08 -0000 On Sunday 23 November 2003 16:21, D Velez wrote: > Hi, I was wondering if FreeBSD 5.1 can be > install on a laptop? I installed 5.0 once, without any problems. There will surely not be a great difference between them. For more info: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.html freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Daniela From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 09:17:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A00116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from vsmtp2.tin.it (vsmtp2.tin.it [212.216.176.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9727543FE0 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tulliopellicano@virgilio.it) Received: from x7o7k9 (80.181.253.34) by vsmtp2.tin.it (7.0.019) id 3FBF8F1100072ABF; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:17:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c3b1e5$96139a00$22fdb550@x7o7k9> From: "tullio pellicano" To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:16:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: tulliopellicano@virgilio.it Subject: Mozilla and long time in resolving Hostnames X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:17:07 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 09:22:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB0B16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A1A43FD7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([68.169.105.3]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20031123172239.EKJU1561.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:22:39 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: advice needed on creating hmtl docs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:22:37 -0000 My shop has been writing internal standards & tutorials in MS/windows word. They now want to make these available online over the internet as web pages. We use FBSD as our gateway and apache as our web server. I know I can install apache with ms/FrontPage extensions added and then use FrontPage to read the word docs to build the FrontPage hmtl code automatically. I would really like to use the ms/word docs as source input to some FBSD hmtl generator to build original hmtl source that apache can serve up natively. Can any body suggest how to do this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 09:47:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6883216A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C34943FE0 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyK6-0006Gn-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:47:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyK4-0006GV-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:47:00 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyK4-000678-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:47:00 +0100 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:46:58 -0500 Organization: WingNET Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <44fzghmad9.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: dmesg.today->dmesg.yesterday X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:47:06 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jesse Guardiani writes: > >> How does dmesg.today get rotated to dmesg.yesterday? >> >> I suspect my dmesg.today of being corrupted by old info. >> I have gotten the following message in my security output >> for the last four days: >> >> pid 4062 (clamd), uid 3848: exited on signal 11 >> >> It appears in different places, but what are the chances of >> clamd acquiring pid 4062 four days in a row? > > That diff is taken as part of the periodic/security checks. > I don't think it uses dmesg.today, though; I think it takes output > directly from dmesg(8)... >From /etc/periodic/security/security.functions: ------------------------------------------------------------------- # Usage: COMMAND | check_diff [new_only] LABEL - MSG # COMMAND > TMPFILE; check_diff [new_only] LABEL TMPFILE MSG # if $1 is new_only, show only the 'new' part of the diff. # LABEL is the base name of the ${LOG}/${label}.{today,yesterday} files. check_diff() { ------------------------------------------------------------------- It would appear that it does indeed use .today and .yesterday. And I think I just answered my own question. check_diff is the function that creates the dmesg.today and dmesg.yesterday files, and is in charge of rotating them. Thanks. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 09:51:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11D216A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1B343FD7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:51:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hANHpBqt007562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:51:20 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id hANHpBEG007561; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:51:11 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:51:11 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: fbsd_user Message-ID: <20031123175111.GA7343@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , fbsd_user , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: advice needed on creating hmtl docs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:51:41 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 12:22:34PM -0500, fbsd_user wrote: > I would really like to use the ms/word docs as source input to some > FBSD hmtl generator to build original hmtl source that apache can > serve up natively. Can any body suggest how to do this? http://wvware.sourceforge.net in ports as textproc/wv or textproc/wv2 These are Unix style programs suitable for scripting/automation.=20 Otherwise, you can convert most MS formats to HTML using OpenOffice All of these will aim to produce output that looks almost exactly like the .doc input, rather than neat, tidy, minimal HTML. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wPOPdtESqEQa7a0RAl+jAJ0UT1uPA2GANPwButNPATVbcLfgjwCfSGLY gtiK4va4aM/xBmmrOPuIbHI= =ijYH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 09:58:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369FC16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:58:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D18B43FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:58:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyUi-0006LQ-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:58:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyUh-0006LI-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:57:59 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyUh-0006Nc-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:57:59 +0100 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:57:55 -0500 Organization: WingNET Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <000a01c3b0e9$0199c8b0$b500a8c0@eci> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: Modem problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:58:02 -0000 Shaun Alcaster (ECI Support) wrote: > We have a lease line directly connected to out internet survice provider. > Both have 56k lease line modems, but can only connect at about 33.3Kbs how > do we change this. Most likely the problem is with your phone lines, not FreeBSD or your ISP. I work at an ISP. I can connect at 48,000 bps with my FreeBSD laptop from downtown - at work. If I take my laptop home, I can only connect at 24,600 bps. My house is on the outskirts of town and I think we have more than our fair share of analog to digital conversions between my house and the central office. Same story with my Win98 box. But FreeBSD with my PCMCIA hardware modem actually transfers data faster than my win98 box w/software modem. If you really want to connect at 56k or higher, you generally have three options: 1.) ISDN. Full digital line ensures 64k connection speeds, and dual channels with bonding means that you can get a 128k connection. Usually you won't spend too much more for ISDN than you would for dual 56k connections, but since ISDN actually connects at 64k, it'll be a lot faster. 2.) DSL. If available, it's always on, and generally the same price or cheaper than ISDN. Just make sure you get a DSL router with an ethernet jack instead of a USB DSL "modem". AFAIK, DSL dongles aren't supported by FreeBSD. 3.) Partial or Full T1. Absolute fastest connection of the three, but also the most expensive. This is total overkill for most small businesses. Hope that helps. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 10:04:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA62F16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:04:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C8B43FAF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyaV-0006P8-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:03:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyaU-0006P0-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:03:58 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyaU-0006XE-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:03:58 +0100 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:03:57 -0500 Organization: WingNET Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <000801c3b1dd$e65932c0$03000004@david> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.1 on a Laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:04:01 -0000 D Velez wrote: > Hi, I was wondering if FreeBSD 5.1 can be > install on a laptop? I've been running 5.1-RELEASE on my IBM Thinkpad A30p for 4 or 5 months now. I like it a lot. It's was a bit trickier to get installed than 4.8-RELEASE, but once it's installed it works well. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 10:08:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE9616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from yoda.anything-inc.com (adsl-068-153-193-052.sip.bct.bellsouth.net [68.153.193.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F6743F85 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:08:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@anything-inc.com) X-AuthUser: freebsd@anything-inc.com Received: from neo.anything-inc.com (68.153.193.50:3258)Server] ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:17:49 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20031123130031.00a9a020@anything-inc.com> X-Sender: freebsd@anything-inc.com@anything-inc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:03:47 -0500 To: FreeBSD From: Bob Collins In-Reply-To: <20031122003015.GO32267@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20031121092248.00ae5f60@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031119090506.00a9c6a8@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031114105727.00a9d6d8@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031114105727.00a9d6d8@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031119090506.00a9c6a8@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031121092248.00ae5f60@anything-inc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=3.5 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Subject: Re: Disklabel problem IBM SCSI3 disks, vinum too X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:08:27 -0000 At 07:30 PM 11/21/2003, you wrote: >[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > >Quotation broken. > >On Friday, 21 November 2003 at 9:25:58 -0500, Bob Collins wrote: >> At 08:41 PM 11/19/2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] >>> >>> Quotation broken. >>> >>> On Wednesday, 19 November 2003 at 9:13:43 -0500, Bob Collins wrote: >>>> At 10:46 PM 11/17/2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Do you have device nodes for da4? Has it been labelled at all? >>>> >>>> I did not have `all' the nodes for da4 in /dev. So, I ran #sh MAKEDEV da4 >>>> in the /dev directory. After that, there were what appeared to be all the >>>> device nodes for da4. >>>> >>>> I was able to label the drive and use it with vinum under >>>> 5.0-RELEASE FWIW. Under 4.9-RELEASE (which is what I now run) it >>>> will not label through /stand/sysinstall. >>>> >>>> I can now newfs the drive and mount it and copy files to and fro, >>>> however I cannot use it with vinum. I did umount the drive and >>>> then disklabel -e da4 and changed the e: to h: and the filesystem >>>> type to vinum. It was da4s1e. >>>> >>>> When I create the vinum configuration, I either get that drive d >>>> (da4s1h) is referenced and in the down state while the other three >>>> drives are up, or the other three drives a b c are referenced and >>>> in the down state while drive d is up. >>> >>> I need the information I ask for in >>> http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html. >> >> FreeBSD 4.9 RELEASE >> >> No changes to sources >> >> vinum -> list >> 4 drives: >> D d State: up Device /dev/da1s1h Avail: 0/8747 MB (0%) >> D c State: up Device /dev/da2s1h Avail: 0/8747 MB (0%) >> D b State: up Device /dev/da3s1h Avail: 0/8747 MB (0%) >> D a State: up Device /dev/da4s1h Avail: 0/8747 MB (0%) >> >> 1 volumes: >> V raid State: down Plexes: 1 Size: 25 GB >> >> 1 plexes: >> P raid.p0 R5 State: init Subdisks: 4 Size: 25 GB >> >> 4 subdisks: >> S raid.p0.s0 State: empty PO: 0 B Size: 8747 MB >> S raid.p0.s1 State: empty PO: 512 kB Size: 8747 MB >> S raid.p0.s2 State: empty PO: 1024 kB Size: 8747 MB >> S raid.p0.s3 State: empty PO: 1536 kB Size: 8747 MB > >This doesn't agree with what you say above. It also looks fine to >me. > >Greg >-- My apologies, Greg. Quite right. I was messing with the system right before the response about sa4 device nodes in /dev. Once I made the da4 devices, then the disklabel worked. My mistake jumping the gun. One follow-up question if I may. I assume that the init process for a RAID5 takes quite some time, no? This has been in the init stage for 3 days. The vinum daemon is running as I can see it listed in ps -ax. Thank you Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 10:10:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AC716A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366B343FD7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANygj-0006Sv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:10:25 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyXw-0006N8-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:01:20 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANyXw-0006Th-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:01:20 +0100 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:01:19 -0500 Organization: WingNET Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <20031123142814.96294.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: RE: Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:10:27 -0000 fbsd_user wrote: > Read the FBSD handbook. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.ht Also, you might want to try kppp from the KDE project. It's a graphical front end to Kernal PPP (pppd), and I find that it's much easier to use than the CLI when I need to connect in a hurry on my laptop. I think it's probably a good idea to get user ppp (FreeBSD Handbook) working before switching to kppp though. That way you'll be able to debug easier. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 10:53:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976F916A4D4 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from stratus.mercurycloud.net (stratus.mercurycloud.net [64.246.167.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADDE43F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:52:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists-wp@mercurycloud.net) Received: from [192.168.1.41] (h-67-101-0-145.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net [67.101.0.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stratus.mercurycloud.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C6040 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:50:53 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3B75ECFD-1DE6-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Will Prater Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:52:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: daemon monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:53:00 -0000 List, What are most of you using to monitor the running daemons? I have been loooking into DJB daemontools which seems appropriate, but are there any others that you reccomend? If DJB's daemontools is the one, could I get some more examples? I am primarily trying to keep my mail system online: postfix, cyrus, saslauthd, mysql, and spamassassin. Thanks for any input --will From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 10:54:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FBF16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E97343F85 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:54:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id hANIsmCA029974; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:54:49 +0200 Message-Id: <200311231854.hANIsmCA029974@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 23 Nov 03 20:54:49 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 23 Nov 03 20:54:32 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: Robert Neumann Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:54:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FBDE082.9020002@gmx.de> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HD error: BAD SUPER BLOCK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:54:51 -0000 Hello! > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:53:06 +0100 > From: Robert Neumann > > this is the problem: > I had a machine running FreeBSD 4.7-Stable. There I added a 80GB > harddisk. This harddrive I wanted to install on my other machine running > FreeBSD 4.9-Release. This disk is ad6 so I added > > /dev/ad6 /storage ufs rw 2 2 > > to fstab and rebooted. Did I understand the situation right - the drive worked in 4.7 machine but the problem occurred when you moved it to the 4.9 machine? The above fstab entry doesn't look quite correct to me. The filesystem that you mount should usually be contained in a partition (e.g. /dev/ad6s1e) not on entire disk (/dev/ad6). If the drive worked in the 4.7 machine, what was the fstab entry there? > While booting the kernel the following error came up: > ... > /dev/ad6: BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG > /dev/ad6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY > ** /dev/ad6 > BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG > /dev/ad6; NOT LABELED AS A BSD FILE SYSTEM (unused) > > I searched the intenet and found this way: > fsck -b 32 > > which gives this output for /dev/ad6: > ... > BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG This all seems to hint that /dev/ad6 does not contain an UFS file system. > the output of > fdisk -t ad6 > is the following: > ... > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 160071597 (78159 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > end: 1023/ head 254/ sector 63; OK, there's a FreeBSD slice on the drive. > the output of /stand/sysinstall ->Configure->Fdisk->ad6 is: > > Offset Size(ST) END Name PType Desc Subtype Flags > 0 63 62 - 6 unused 0 > 63 160071597 160071659 ad6s1 3 freebsd 165 C > 160071660 14868 160086527 - 6 unused 0 That seems to be the same slice as listed by fdisk. Note that is's called ad6s1. What is the output of 'disklabel ad6'? -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Testicle -- n., a humorous question to an exam. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 11:15:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F5A16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mandy.mts.ru (mandy.mts.ru [81.211.47.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D422443FE3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:15:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tiamat@komi.mts.ru) Received: from maeko.inside.mts.ru (maeko [192.168.10.3]) by mandy.mts.ru with SMTP id hANJFYb03241 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:15:34 +0300 (MSK) Received: from stella.komi.mts.ru ([10.50.1.1]) by maeko.inside.mts.ru (NAVGW 2.5.2.12) with SMTP id M2003112322153324003 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:15:33 +0300 Received: from cdrw (cdrw.komi.mts.ru [10.50.1.103]) (user=tiamat mech=NTLM bits=0) by stella.komi.mts.ru (MTS Komi/Smtp) with ESMTP id hANJFXFm008699 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:15:33 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tiamat@komi.mts.ru) Message-ID: <005501c3b1f6$2af757f0$6701320a@komi.mts.ru> From: =?koi8-r?B?5MXK1MXSIOHMxcvTwc7E0iD3wczF0snF18ne?= To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:15:33 +0300 Organization: =?koi8-r?B?5snMycHMIO/h7yAi7c/CyczYztnFIPTFzMXzydPUxc3ZIiDXIMcu8w==?= =?koi8-r?B?2cvU2dfLwdLFLCDy6y4=?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Subject: ftp/ftpd and kerberos5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:15:39 -0000 Why ftp and ftpd in FreeBSD 5.x does not support kerberos5 ? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 11:26:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2245816A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-46.apple.com [17.250.248.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C49D43FE1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hANJQTZB009630; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (12-231-115-57.client.attbi.com [12.231.115.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hANJQSxO028399; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:26:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: paul beard Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:26:25 -0800 To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: advice needed on creating hmtl docs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:26:33 -0000 On Nov 23, 2003, at 9:22 AM, fbsd_user wrote: > I would really like to use the ms/word docs as source input to some > FBSD hmtl generator to build original hmtl source that apache can > serve up natively. Can any body suggest how to do this? > One approach I've had some success with is to take the baroque HTML that Word generates and run it through htmltidy. It can strip out all the deprecated tags and generate CSS styles for you, giving you both the appearance and the maintainability you may need later. -- Paul Beard paulbeard [at] mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 11:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD46E16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DA943FDD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:49:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craigcaughlin@comcast.net) Received: from p4 (c-24-10-54-42.client.comcast.net[24.10.54.42]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112319491801600ro472e>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:49:18 +0000 From: "Craig Caughlin" To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:49:21 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c3b1fa$e3dd3010$0101a8c0@p4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Boot manager clarification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:49:20 -0000 Hi folks, I have 2 hard disks, each on their own channel. I have XOSL installed as = my boot manager, in Drive 1, Partition 1. I have Windows 2000-Pro on Drive = 1, Partition 2. I want to install FreeBSD 5.0 on Drive 2, but use XOSL to = load it.=20 Should I install FreeBSD using the "Standard" MBR option, or should I = use the "BootMgr" option? I *think* I would want to use the standard, = because it seems like the BootMgr option would install in the MBR of Disk 1 and NOT Disk 2, thereby goofing up XOSL (which is what I'm trying to avoid!). Thank you, Craig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 11:52:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D681A16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from bay0-smtp07.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-smtp07.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.241.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0775643FE3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbogari@msn.com) X-Originating-IP: [24.6.174.151] X-Originating-Email: [jbogari@msn.com] Received: from vanwinkle ([24.6.174.151]) by bay0-smtp07.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:52:56 -0800 From: "Jeff Bogari" To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:52:48 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2003 19:52:56.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[637F2350:01C3B1FB] Subject: Novice needs advice building new kernel: UPG 4.7-RELEASE ---> 4.9-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jbogari@msn.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:52:56 -0000 Thanks in advance for the expert assistance: I'm *halfway* knowledgeable with my 4.7-RELEASE system. Built it on a 486/66 (16MB RAM) about a year ago. It's time to upgrade to 4.9-RELEASE. Here's what I've got so far: 1. Set the options in sysinstall to retrieve 4.9-RELEASE instead of 4.7-RELEASE 2. Used sysinstall to download the 4.9-RELEASE data via FTP 3. Tried to rebuild the kernel with the "first" process as documented 4. All steps proceed without error 5. Kernel size after last step is 0KB, so reboot fails. Fallback to kernel.old 6. GENERIC kernel installed with 4.9-RELEASE is kinda iffy - had to address several issues with 4.7 GENERIC to arrive at the kernel conf I am happy with under 4.7 7. Ran through kernel conf again to confirm no new gotchas and all required deviations for my setup were followed. Nothing looks fishy. Then: 1. Tried "second" procedure as documented 2. Failure at some point I don't recall due to physical memory or swap size How/why is this kernel ending up 0-sized with no error message? I played with the kernel protection as documented in the troubleshooting sections. Everything seems normal. Must I set kern_security level < 0 before I begin? Or should I lean on the "second" process to make it work? The problem there being that I do not have a kernel that allows me to increase swap by creating a swap file >:( Any help would be appreciated. Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 12:00:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656D316A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lphp.org (APastourelles-107-1-16-68.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.14.185.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CC543FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from sta01 (sta01.lphp.local [192.168.0.3]) by mail.lphp.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANJw6uX033055 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:58:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:58:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311232058.57532.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Subject: hard drive bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:00:09 -0000 Hi :) Is there a hard drive speed measurement available for FreeBSD ? I don't need anything fancy, just something like "hdparm -t" under Linux. Thanks. =2D-=20 Antoine Jacoutot ajacoutot@lphp.org http://www.lphp.org PGP/GnuPG key: http://www.lphp.org/ressources/ajacoutot.asc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 12:06:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0870616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.misu.nodak.edu (mail.misu.NoDak.edu [165.234.215.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E341E43F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:06:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brownd@misu.nodak.edu) Received: from misu.nodak.edu (www-data@localhost [127.0.0.1]) hANK8EHI006205 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:08:14 -0600 From: NEED_FIRST NEED_LAST Received: from 165.234.213.193 (SquirrelMail authenticated user brownd) by mail.misu.nodak.edu with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:08:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3479.165.234.213.193.1069618094.squirrel@mail.misu.nodak.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:08:14 -0600 (CST) To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Material X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:06:52 -0000 Hi, I am a student at Minot State University in Minot,ND. I work in the computer lab and was noticing all the posters that we have up are getting old and out dated. Some one mentioned to me FreeBSD (rocks). I have never heard about freebsd so I was wondering do you have any material that you could send me about FreeBSD. Maybe you could send me some posters to display in the lab. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 12:45:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B9C16A4CE; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxsf24.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf24.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB8043FAF; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:45:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MrL0L@charter.net) Received: from charter.net (ts46-01-qdr3139.mrgnhll.ca.charter.com [68.118.70.73])hANKgOEk080242; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:42:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from MrL0L@charter.net) Message-ID: <3FE5952A.7070901@charter.net> From: Remington User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031029 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com, freebsd-mobile@Freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org References: <16320.8955.485537.857428@rosebud.alerce.com> <16321.5514.14905.384718@rosebud.alerce.com> In-Reply-To: <16321.5514.14905.384718@rosebud.alerce.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: More info [was Re: Sony PCG-GRX570 laptop, panic on boot w/ 5.1R...] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:45:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:42:18 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:45:44 -0000 George Hartzell wrote: >George Hartzell writes: > > > > I've been trying to install something 5-ish on a Sony PCG-GRX570 > > laptop. > > > > I started off trying to boot off of the 5.1 release CD, normally, > > w/out acpi, and safe. Every option panic-ed, with essentially the > > same message (see below), although it followed a different driver > > depending on how it was booted. > > > > Then I installed 4.7 (since I had the CD), cvsup-ed my repository, and > > cvs up'ed /usr/src to the 5-current. I followed the section on moving > > from 4 to 5-current in UPDATING to build the world, etc.... I had to > > work around a bit of previously reported 4.7/5 weirdness in > > /usr/include, but it went w/out any trouble. > > > > When I reached the point where I was supposed to boot the new kernel > > in single user mode, the 5-current kernel paniced: > > > > miibus0: in fxp0 > > inphy0: on miibus0 > > inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > > > > > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 > > fault virtual address = 0x63696d20 > > fault code = supervisor write, page not present > > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0659df3 > > stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0c217ac > > frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0c217cc > > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > > current process = 0 (swapper) > > kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 > > Stopped at ithread_add_handler+0x163: movl %ebx,0(%eax) > > db> > > > > I've seen several similar reports in the archives for late last > > summer. The general answer seemed to be that people were having > > hardware trouble. I don't think that is the case in my case, unless > > -current is doing something very strange, since the same machine runs > > well enough under 4.7 to buildworld and buildkernel, and the same > > hardware has been running Suse and Win2000. > > > > How can I help get this solved? > >It turns out that the 5.0 release CD also boots successfully, so it >seems to be something that's happened in -current since then. > >Help? > >g. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I have a GRX570, the problem can be fixed by adding the following to your device.hints hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range=1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 13:23:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD4016A4CE; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rosebud.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F93943FBF; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) Received: from rosebud.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rosebud.alerce.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANLNQA1003513; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@rosebud.alerce.com) Received: (from hartzell@localhost) by rosebud.alerce.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hANLNPFV003510; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16321.9548.998499.814298@rosebud.alerce.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:23:24 -0800 To: Remington In-Reply-To: <3FE5952A.7070901@charter.net> References: <16320.8955.485537.857428@rosebud.alerce.com> <16321.5514.14905.384718@rosebud.alerce.com> <3FE5952A.7070901@charter.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: More info [was Re: Sony PCG-GRX570 laptop, panic on boot w/ 5.1R...] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:23:29 -0000 Remington writes: > George Hartzell wrote: > > >George Hartzell writes: > > > > > > I've been trying to install something 5-ish on a Sony PCG-GRX570 > > > laptop. > > > > > > I started off trying to boot off of the 5.1 release CD, normally, > > > w/out acpi, and safe. Every option panic-ed, with essentially the > > > same message (see below), although it followed a different driver > > > depending on how it was booted. > > > [...] > > [...] > I have a GRX570, the problem can be fixed by adding the following to > your device.hints > > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range=1 Yay! That got it. Thanks! g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 13:25:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7299D16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-47.apple.com [17.250.248.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE0D43FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:25:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hANLPZo8011278 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (12-231-115-57.client.attbi.com [12.231.115.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hANLPYxO027773 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:25:34 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8FF2C6A7-1DFB-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: questions@Freebsd.org From: paul beard Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:25:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: POLA violation?: snmp renumbering stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:25:41 -0000 For some reason, my locally installed snmp daemons decided to renumber the elements in the hrStorageTable, meaning all the attached disks were being either misreported or just plain dropped from my graphs (paulbeard.no-ip.org/mrtg/blue/index.html). Not that the new numbering doesn't make sense but I didn't know this was going to happen. How to discover and fix it? snmptable is my friend. As shown here, the memory used by the kernel is listed first, followed by the disks. The disks were numbered starting at 1 before . . . . . [/www/mrtg/blue]# snmptable -c blue hrStorageTable SNMP table: HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageTable hrStorageIndex hrStorageType hrStorageDescr hrStorageAllocationUnits hrStorageSize hrStorageUsed hrStorageAllocationFailures 1 HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES::hrStorageOther Memory Buffers 256 Bytes ? 192 0 2 HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES::hrStorageRam Real Memory 4096 Bytes ? 3241 ? 3 HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES::hrStorageVirtualMemory Swap Space 4096 Bytes ? 19625 ? 4 HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES::hrStorageFixedDisk / 1024 Bytes ? 83592 ? 5 HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES::hrStorageFixedDisk /usr 1024 Bytes ? 3639961 ? 6 HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES::hrStorageFixedDisk /var 1024 Bytes ? 8015 ? 7 HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES::hrStorageFixedDisk /proc 4096 Bytes ? 1 ? 8 HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES::hrStorageFixedDisk /usr/ports 512 Bytes ? 35548516 ? -- Paul Beard paulbeard [at] mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 13:25:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2268316A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D128843F75 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:25:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmvg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr4so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.107])2003))freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:13:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml10so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml10so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.80]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOT00271PLZBP@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:13:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from shaw.ca (h68-146-233-172.cg.shawcable.net [68.146.233.172]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOT0023KPLX0X@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:13:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:13:13 -0700 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN To: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Message-id: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) Subject: remote mount hangs sysstem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:25:54 -0000 Is there a way to mount a cdrom or remote file systems using fstab but not having it crash out the system. example if i have a nfs share set up to another machine and that machine goes down the next time i reboot my system the machine hangs when it cannot find the share and will not allow me to do anything and i have to hook up a monitor and keyboard to get it back the same happens when there is an error on a cd rom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 13:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5C316A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:50:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.tiscali.de (relay1.tiscali.de [62.26.116.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8536543FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:50:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sa.deutscher@tiscali.de) Received: from localhost (217.235.15.235) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.7.019) id 3F9D2AE200C1EE39; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:50:09 +0100 Received: by localhost (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.0) id XAA367.68; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:01:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:01:21 +0000 From: "Stefan A. Deutscher" To: Antoine Jacoutot Message-ID: <20031123230121.G3319@tiscali.de> References: <200311232058.57532.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i In-Reply-To: <200311232058.57532.ajacoutot@lphp.org>; from Antoine Jacoutot on Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 08:58:54PM +0100 X-Operating-System: OS/2 2.45 X-Machine-Uptime: localhost: uptime is 7 days, 21:40 hours and 14 seconds cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sad@mailaps.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:50:11 -0000 On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 08:58:54PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > Hi :) > > Is there a hard drive speed measurement available for FreeBSD ? > I don't need anything fancy, just something like "hdparm -t" under Linux. > > Thanks. Hi Antoine, check out bonnie from the ports tree and make sure the test files are at least the size of your RAM. Otherwise you'll be measuring the speed of the caching system, which is pretty fast on BSD. Cheers, Stefan -- ============================================================================ Stefan A. Deutscher | Donostia International Physics Center | office: ++34-943-018174 Universidad del Pais Vasco, Facultad de Quimica | fax : ++34-943-015600 Departamento de Fisica de Materiales | home : ++34-943-270647 Apartado 1072, San Sebastian 20080, Spain | email : sad@mailaps.org ============================================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 13:55:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450FF16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58AB343FDD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:55:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from manalive@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 24734 invoked by uid 65534); 23 Nov 2003 21:55:00 -0000 Received: from lsanca1-ar5-4-60-056-131.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net (EHLO [192.168.0.4]) (4.60.56.131) by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 22:55:00 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19378375 From: Jonas Manalive To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069624490.51320.26.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:54:50 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Postfix/procmail/fetchmail/spamassassin setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:55:04 -0000 Hello, I am having terrible time trying to figure out why I can't get any emails. I used to be able to receive them before, but since reinstalling FreeBSD (new harddrive), I am not able to get any emails again. I am using FreeBSD 5.1 - standalone computer with me as the sole user. With postfix, I want to use fetchmail to fetch mails and procmail to deliver them and spamassassin to examine them. I want the procmail/postfix to send them to /var/mail/manalive. Here are the configurations (username/password changed of course :) ) and let me know where I am doing wrong. There is no procmail.log file. I have stopped, started, and reloaded the postfix after configuring. Any other configurations you need to see, please let me know! Thanks! Jonas ------------------------------ .fetchmailrc ----- set logfile /home/manalive/Logs/fetchmail.log set postmaster manalive set no bouncemail # Poll at 15 minute intervals set daemon 900 poll pop.mail.com proto POP3 user "manalive@mail.com" pass "password" is manalive here fetchall no keep poll pop.mail.com proto POP3 user "second@mail.com" pass "password" is manalive here no fetchall keep ------------------------------ .forward ----- "|IFS=' ' && p=/usr/local/bin/procmail && test -f $p && exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 manalive" ------------------------------- .procmailrc ---- SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/games DEFAULT=/var/mail/manalive LOGFILE=/home/manalive/Logs/procmail.log VERBOSE=YES :0fw: spamassassin.lock * < 1000000 | spamassassin ----------------------------------- fetchmail.log ---------- fetchmail: starting fetchmail 6.2.5 daemon fetchmail: 6.2.5 querying pop.mail.com (protocol POP3) at Sun Nov 23 13:12:33 2003: poll started fetchmail: POP3< +OK MAIL POP3 StreamProxy ready <12580.1069621952@mp010> fetchmail: POP3> CAPA fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Unknown command. fetchmail: Unknown command. fetchmail: Repoll immediately on manalive@mail.com@pop.mail.com fetchmail: POP3< +OK GMX POP3 StreamProxy ready <18555.1069621953@mp021> fetchmail: POP3> USER manalive@mail.com fetchmail: POP3< +OK May I have your password, please? fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail: POP3< +OK mailbox has 326 messages (1419792 octets) fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail: POP3< +OK 326 1419792 fetchmail: 326 messages for manalive@mail.com at pop.mail.com (1419792 octets). fetchmail: POP3> LIST 1 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 4551 fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1 fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows fetchmail: reading message manalive@mail.com@pop.mail.com:1 of 326 (4551 octets) fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error fetchmail: terminated with signal 15 fetchmail: starting fetchmail 6.2.5 daemon fetchmail: 326 messages for manalive@mail.com at pop.mail.com (1419792 octets). fetchmail: reading message manalive@mail.com@pop.mail.com:1 of 326 (4551 octets) fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.mail.com fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP) fetchmail: 1 message for second@mail.com at pop.mail.com (26611 octets). fetchmail: reading message second@mail.com@pop.mail.com:1 of 1 (26611 octets) fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.mail.com --------------------------------------- main.cf for postfix (with #lines removed) ---------------- soft_bounce = no queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix command_directory = /usr/local/sbin daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix mail_owner = postfix myhostname = ancient.mariner.sea myorigin = $mydomain inet_interfaces = all mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450 alias_maps = dbm:/etc/aliases home_mailbox = Mailbox mail_spool_directory = /var/mail mailbox_command = /usr/local/bin/procmail debug_peer_level = 2 sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq setgid_group = maildrop manpage_directory = /usr/local/man sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix readme_directory = no ------------------------------------------ rc.conf ---------------- hostname="ancient.mariner.sea" ifconfig_vr0="DHCP" ipv6_enable="YES" kern_securelevel_enable="NO" saver="daemon" sendmail_enable="NONE" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" inetd_enable="NO" ------------------------------ /etc/aliases ------- [among other things... I have included] root: manalive postfix: root From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 13:58:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD4F16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp09.wxs.nl (smtp09.wxs.nl [195.121.6.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE8243FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akruijff@www.kruijff.org) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp09.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOT007BVRK1QQ@smtp09.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:55:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANLvQLU059604; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:57:26 +0100 (CET envelope-from akruijff@Alex.lan) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hANLvPpL059603; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:57:25 +0100 (CET envelope-from akruijff) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:57:25 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <3B75ECFD-1DE6-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> To: Will Prater Message-id: <20031123215725.GC557@dds.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i References: <3B75ECFD-1DE6-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: daemon monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:58:34 -0000 On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 10:52:48AM -0800, Will Prater wrote: > List, > > What are most of you using to monitor the running daemons? I have been > loooking into DJB daemontools which seems appropriate, but are there > any others that you reccomend? > > If DJB's daemontools is the one, could I get some more examples? I am > primarily trying to keep my mail system online: postfix, cyrus, > saslauthd, mysql, and spamassassin. I would advise Nagios. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:03:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602C516A4D0 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out007.verizon.net (out007pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8345643FF5 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:03:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kent.hauser@verizon.net) Received: from hnl ([4.35.227.55]) by out007.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20031123220302.SMSZ9064.out007.verizon.net@hnl> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:03:02 -0600 From: Kent Hauser To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:02:29 -1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200311231202.29849.kent.hauser@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out007.verizon.net from [4.35.227.55] at Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:03:02 -0600 Subject: usb digital camera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:03:08 -0000 Hi, Is there some trick to using USB devices? I'm trying to access my Nikon coolpix 5000 (latest firmware PTP mode) from 4.9-STABLE with no luck. usbdevs sees the camera, as does "gphoto2 --auto-detect". However, I'm unable to access the camera data with "gphoto2 --auto-detect --summary" (or via digikam or via konquerer). Having never done this before, I don't know if there is a usb config file I need to hack (usbd is running with unmodified usbd.conf). I've tried running as user & root and saw no change. Any help appreciated. %grep usb /var/log/messages Nov 23 11:56:08 hnl /kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Nov 23 11:56:08 hnl /kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 % usbdevs -v Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 addr 2: self powered, config 1, NIKON DSC E5000-PTP(0x0113), Nikon(0x04b0), rev 1.00 Kent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FE116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC3543FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hANMJKDC027679; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (12-231-115-57.client.attbi.com [12.231.115.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hANMJJPd009707; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> References: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <12BAF9C4-1E03-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: paul beard Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:19:15 -0800 To: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote mount hangs sysstem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:19:21 -0000 On Nov 23, 2003, at 12:13 PM, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > Is there a way to mount a cdrom or remote file systems using fstab > but not having it crash out the system. example if i have a nfs share > set up to another machine and that machine goes down the next time i > reboot my system the machine hangs when it cannot find the share and > will not allow me to do anything and i have to hook up a monitor and > keyboard to get it back the same happens when there is an error on a > cd rom > make sure the entry on /etc/fstab is set to noauto: then the client won't try to mount the filesystem on boot. -- Paul Beard paulbeard [at] mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:22:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4743C16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5625743FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:22:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) Comments: To protect the identity of the sender, certain header fields are either not shown, or masked. Anonymous email accounts can be requested by filling in the appropriate form at: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) id hANMMdOb039773 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:22:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Message-Id: <200311232222.HANMMDAC039763@asarian-host.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:22:39 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: 83QCSjJsrBuTtdgHQFqBCE34scXTeb84/CDf4LZKBHMG+yfHUhhIfoHGZ7iE7v7GtDNQAlXWZPi9vtdzhqUkxQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAP8EzLzFqW1BleBN9AQFoGAf+Pw4yh5B3O3YMRF4NLOvX7kHqXX6IXSLd JedbtxbTt2p8eaZMRShEl9wAK0uJw+K7eZsZgUObvHONpqF3fVwfenaUMXX59Vym 8eiMICkr7UbssPJOvuFlNX7PvdzoNcqnC+mXmxqnJaOysqx/1NqSMvdMymQhFo39 qZhLoAwNHol72wO25EJVhjNiT4+cGLacxqdqVPsy7tix0E5SM8v17NZnfUxGmI5K C21LCbppn3FCXdABfCIf3MLeblcOgBvKMqxhWhk1cxg+O5he7+ySeqbXZIxVWjR/ Gp2b2fMGpFlU8OrvOC8sOr/s4K7FlsQ4KxL4jrP98sEQsU2MV/eZyg== =uFXV Subject: Running rbldnsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:22:45 -0000 Perhaps a bit off-topic, but since dynablock.easynet.nl's untimely demise, I have been running the dynablock zone in BIND. Works great, but takes a whopping 117MB! So, I tried using rbldnsd, which is about 10 times more memory-efficient (!). I created a zone, dynablock.my-domain.info, and added the zone-data, and start rbldns as follows: rbldnsd -u bind:bind -r /usr/rbldns -b 127.0.0.1 -P 53 -c 0 \ dynablock.my-domain.info:generic:zoneheader.dynablock.my-domain.info \ dynablock.my-domain.info:ip4set:dynablock.my-domain.info The "zoneheader.dynablock.my-domain.info" contains the following: $NS 86400 ns1.my-domain.info $SOA 1w ns1.my-domain.info admin.my-domain.info 0 2h 2h 1w 1h @ 86400 A 127.0.0.1 dsl-cable-dhcp-dialup.ip 86400 A 127.0.0.2 dsl-cable-dhcp-dialup.ip 86400 TXT Dynamic/Residential IP range Rbldsnd starts fine, without error, and says it loaded all zones: rbldnsd: ip4set:dynablock.my-domain.info: 20031123 174253: \ e32/24/16/8=372826/241350/1001/0 rbldnsd: generic:zoneheader.dynablock.my-domain.info: 20031123 183814: e=3 rbldnsd: version 0.96 (29 May 2003) started (listening on [127.0.0.1]:53) Yet, I cannot get any query to resolve on it: % nslookup 218.65.86.15.dynablock.my-domain.info *** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Query refused I guess I misconfigured the "zoneheader" somehow. But I do not see how. Is there anyone out there with a working knowledge of rbldns who can tell me what I am doing wrong? It manages load load the whole dynablock zone in less than 8MB (!), so it is worth trying to get to work, I'd say. Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:25:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9000E16A4CE; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxsmta01.dellhost.com (mxsmta01.ow.dellhost.com [209.235.30.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609DD43F85; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jackie.mccracken@jacktel.com) Received: from c927711-e.jacktel.net ([208.11.116.189]) by mxsmta01.dellhost.comESMTP <20031123222840.NIOO27707.mxsmta01.dellhost.com@c927711-e.jacktel.net>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:28:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:24:14 -0600 Message-ID: <2E6D599F2F778307@jacktel.com> From: "Jackie S. McCracken" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: 602Pro LAN SUITE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: virus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:25:10 -0000 Somebody on this list has mimail virus could you all please scan your wi= ndows computers. I've got about 100 of them in the last 4 days. Hint I= did NOT get any after yesterday morning until this morning so if your c= omputer was off most of the day yesterday you're probably the one. Than= ks in advance for your help. Jackie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:30:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2956E16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0745043F75 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:30:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu163-100-105.nc.rr.com [24.163.100.105]) hANMUkse027659; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:30:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FC13515.6060008@mindcore.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:30:45 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN References: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote mount hangs sysstem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:30:49 -0000 RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > Is there a way to mount a cdrom or remote file systems using fstab > but not having it crash out the system. example if i have a nfs share > set up to another machine and that machine goes down the next time i > reboot my system the machine hangs when it cannot find the share and > will not allow me to do anything and i have to hook up a monitor and > keyboard to get it back the same happens when there is an error on a > cd rom > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Use the background (-b or bg) and interruptible (-i or intr) options, along with a reasonable timeout. See man mount_nfs for the specifics. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8A516A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F34B43F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmvg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr2so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.178])2003))freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml10so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml10so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.80]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOT003KLT7YID@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from shaw.ca (h68-146-233-172.cg.shawcable.net [68.146.233.172]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOT00444T7XP0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:31:10 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:31:13 -0700 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN In-reply-to: <12BAF9C4-1E03-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> Message-id: <3FC12721.7070008@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) References: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> <12BAF9C4-1E03-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> cc: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote mount hangs sysstem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:36:41 -0000 So if i set to noauto does it still get mounted or do i have to execute a command later paul beard wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2003, at 12:13 PM, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > >> Is there a way to mount a cdrom or remote file systems using fstab >> but not having it crash out the system. example if i have a nfs >> share set up to another machine and that machine goes down the next >> time i reboot my system the machine hangs when it cannot find the >> share and will not allow me to do anything and i have to hook up a >> monitor and keyboard to get it back the same happens when there is an >> error on a cd rom >> > > make sure the entry on /etc/fstab is set to noauto: then the client > won't try to mount the filesystem on boot. > -- > Paul Beard > > paulbeard [at] mac.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:38:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67D916A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D605E43FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:38:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barner@in.tum.de) Received: from zi025.glhnet.mhn.de (localhost.glhnet.mhn.de. [127.0.0.1]) by zi025.glhnet.mhn.de (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANMZElc014017; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:35:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from simon@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de) Received: (from simon@localhost) by zi025.glhnet.mhn.de (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hANMZE8U014016; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:35:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from simon) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:35:13 +0100 From: Simon Barner To: Jonas Manalive Message-ID: <20031123223513.GC4608@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> References: <1069624490.51320.26.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dkEUBIird37B8yKS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1069624490.51320.26.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at informatik.tu-muenchen.de cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix/procmail/fetchmail/spamassassin setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:38:13 -0000 --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, could you please verfiy your postfix configuration using `postfix check'? Perhaps this will show some errors. Other hints: Check /var/log/maillog (and post some lines from the tail if you still can fix your problem). Is the postfix daemon listening on port 25? Are you able to telnet there: % telnet localhost 25 Simon --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wTYhCkn+/eutqCoRAtGlAKC7PriXcU1l62ZfZBvxE62Xa8RDlQCfSk0p 14st8VyfrkHA8NtU1C4yieI= =m5Fq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dkEUBIird37B8yKS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:46:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C4116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C554543FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:46:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C5C2BD0F for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:46:51 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39976511FA; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:16:49 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:16:49 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Bob Collins Message-ID: <20031123224649.GK82843@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20031121092248.00ae5f60@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031119090506.00a9c6a8@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031114105727.00a9d6d8@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031114105727.00a9d6d8@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031119090506.00a9c6a8@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031121092248.00ae5f60@anything-inc.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031123130031.00a9a020@anything-inc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uuKVzAmB+c+zQlhu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20031123130031.00a9a020@anything-inc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Disklabel problem IBM SCSI3 disks, vinum too X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:46:56 -0000 --uuKVzAmB+c+zQlhu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Single-line paragraphs. On Sunday, 23 November 2003 at 13:03:47 -0500, Bob Collins wrote: > At 07:30 PM 11/21/2003, you wrote: >> On Friday, 21 November 2003 at 9:25:58 -0500, Bob Collins wrote: >>> vinum -> list >>> 4 drives: >>> D d State: up Device /dev/da1s1h Avail: 0/8747 MB (0%) >>> D c State: up Device /dev/da2s1h Avail: 0/8747 MB (0%) >>> D b State: up Device /dev/da3s1h Avail: 0/8747 MB (0%) >>> D a State: up Device /dev/da4s1h Avail: 0/8747 MB (0%) >>> >>> 1 volumes: >>> V raid State: down Plexes: 1 Size: 25 GB >>> >>> 1 plexes: >>> P raid.p0 R5 State: init Subdisks: 4 Size: 25 GB >>> >>> 4 subdisks: >>> S raid.p0.s0 State: empty PO: 0 B Size: 8747 MB >>> S raid.p0.s1 State: empty PO: 512 kB Size: 8747 MB >>> S raid.p0.s2 State: empty PO: 1024 kB Size: 8747 MB >>> S raid.p0.s3 State: empty PO: 1536 kB Size: 8747 MB >> >> This doesn't agree with what you say above. It also looks fine to >> me. > > My apologies, Greg. Quite right. I was messing with the system right > before the response about sa4 device nodes in /dev. Once I made the > da4 devices, then the disklabel worked. My mistake jumping the gun. > > One follow-up question if I may. > > I assume that the init process for a RAID5 takes quite some time, > no? This has been in the init stage for 3 days. The vinum daemon is > running as I can see it listed in ps -ax. This is the init state, which means it needs initializing. To initialize, issue the 'init' command. The state will change from 'init' to 'initializing', and the list command shows the progress of the initialization. This writes zeroes to the drives in parallel; expect it to take an hour or two on drives of this size. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --uuKVzAmB+c+zQlhu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wTjZIubykFB6QiMRAtmdAJ4kLDHopFLhiMjto1+yxzGFpnWgrACdH9ek EWLHVCy0F46uDya/QyihGz4= =fur7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uuKVzAmB+c+zQlhu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:47:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0F016A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com (dagney.celestial.com [192.136.111.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515F243FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:47:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 04D0F11F1A3; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:47:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:47:47 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031123224747.GA71099@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <200311231202.29849.kent.hauser@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311231202.29849.kent.hauser@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: usb digital camera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:47:49 -0000 On Sun, Nov 23, 2003, Kent Hauser wrote: >Hi, > >Is there some trick to using USB devices? I'm trying to access my Nikon >coolpix 5000 (latest firmware PTP mode) from 4.9-STABLE with no luck. I've found the easiest way to deal with digital cameras is to buy the appropriate USB flash memory adapter. They typically have an MSRP around $20.00 US. I also have a PCMCIA smartmedia adapter for my laptop that I bought about three year ago when Linux support for USB was iffy at best. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation. -- Johnny Hart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6611616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1B943F75 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:49:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hANMrJMe002485; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (12-231-115-57.client.attbi.com [12.231.115.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hANMnWxO019126; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:49:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3FC12721.7070008@shaw.ca> References: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> <12BAF9C4-1E03-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> <3FC12721.7070008@shaw.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4B3D57DF-1E07-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: paul beard Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:49:28 -0800 To: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote mount hangs sysstem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:49:34 -0000 On Nov 23, 2003, at 1:31 PM, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > So if i set to noauto does it still get mounted or do i have to > execute a command later > sure, just use "mount /mount/point" If the fstab works now, you won't need to do anything else. There may be more sophisticated ways (automounters and such that mount the filesystem as you traverse into it) but I've never used them. man 8 amd, for example. DESCRIPTION Amd is a daemon that automatically mounts filesystems whenever a file or directory within that filesystem is accessed. Filesystems are automati- cally unmounted when they appear to be quiescent. -- Paul Beard paulbeard [at] mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:51:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E9316A4DF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D459D43F75 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:51:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from manalive@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 26193 invoked by uid 65534); 23 Nov 2003 22:51:31 -0000 Received: from lsanca1-ar5-4-60-056-131.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net (EHLO [192.168.0.4]) (4.60.56.131) by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 23:51:31 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19378375 From: Jonas Manalive To: Simon Barner In-Reply-To: <20031123223513.GC4608@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> References: <1069624490.51320.26.camel@localhost> <20031123223513.GC4608@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069627890.23052.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:51:30 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix/procmail/fetchmail/spamassassin setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:51:35 -0000 > could you please verfiy your postfix configuration using `postfix > check'? Perhaps this will show some errors. No errors. > Other hints: Check /var/log/maillog (and post some lines from the tail > if you still can fix your problem). A'ha! What do I do here to fix this? (I think I should have changed the alias database from alias_maps = dbm:/etc/aliases to alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases - or should that be nis or netinfo?) Here is the output: -------------- Nov 23 14:44:12 ancient postfix/master[69957]: warning: process /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 81358 exit status 1 Nov 23 14:44:12 ancient postfix/master[69957]: warning: /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling Nov 23 14:45:12 ancient postfix/smtpd[81362]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: dbm Nov 23 14:45:13 ancient postfix/master[69957]: warning: process /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 81362 exit status 1 Nov 23 14:45:13 ancient postfix/master[69957]: warning: /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling Nov 23 14:46:13 ancient postfix/smtpd[81363]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: dbm Nov 23 14:46:14 ancient postfix/master[69957]: warning: process /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 81363 exit status 1 Nov 23 14:46:14 ancient postfix/master[69957]: warning: /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling Nov 23 14:47:14 ancient postfix/smtpd[81367]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: dbm Nov 23 14:47:15 ancient postfix/master[69957]: warning: process /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 81367 exit status 1 Nov 23 14:47:15 ancient postfix/master[69957]: warning: /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling > Is the postfix daemon listening on port 25? Are you able to telnet > there: > > % telnet localhost 25 Telnet'd with no problems. > Simon Best regards, Jonas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 14:59:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1489816A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A3043F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:59:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2003112322594701400oud0oe>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:59:47 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9991459; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:59:46 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Paulo Roberto References: <20031123122103.74672.qmail@web14917.mail.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Nov 2003 17:59:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20031123122103.74672.qmail@web14917.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44ad6mzo65.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: booting freebsd and openbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:59:48 -0000 Paulo Roberto writes: > I got 4.9 installed on my machine and I need to be able to dual-boot > freebsd and openbsd. The freebsd boot-loader recognizes (F2 BSD) but > does not boot the openbsd partition. Do I have to set any extra > parameter? Funny, I didn't think that should be a problem. What partition type is OpenBSD creating? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 15:02:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA1E16A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.20.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDEE43F75 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au) Received: from elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au (elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.18.41])hANN2P22013620; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:02:25 +1100 (EST) From: JacobRhoden Organization: University of Melbourne To: Kent Hauser , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:02:25 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200311231202.29849.kent.hauser@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200311231202.29849.kent.hauser@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311241002.25008.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: usb digital camera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:02:29 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:02:29 -0000 On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:02 am, Kent Hauser wrote: > usbdevs sees the camera, as does "gphoto2 --auto-detect". However, I'm > unable to access the camera data with "gphoto2 --auto-detect --summary" (or > via digikam or via konquerer). I used to use gphoto to read my photos, but these days I just have a compact flash card reader plugged in via usb, it lets you browse/view/copy your photos just like they were on a floppy, much easier, simpler, and faster. You can even write a script to automate it, so plugging in your usb card reader automounts your photos somewhere. Jacob Rhoden Phone: +61 3 8344 4478 ITS Division Email: jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au Melbourne University Mobile: +61 403 788 386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 15:03:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B6616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D067D43FE1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:02:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2003112323025901600strree>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:02:59 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2A70859; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:02:59 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3FC0CAD4.9050909@ig.com.br> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Nov 2003 18:02:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3FC0CAD4.9050909@ig.com.br> Message-ID: <4465hazo0s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto Subject: Re: fsck error messages don't get logged? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:03:00 -0000 Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto writes: > I just had a crash, and upon reboot fsck displayed these gnarly > errors that went by too quick for me to read, my different display > lines settings loading on the console making it worse. So I thought, > allright, just dmesg. Nothing about the errors there. /var/log/messages? > nothing either. Don't these messages get logged anywhere? This is all > I get.. They're usually interactive. > (..) > Nov 23 12:34:29 localhost kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4a > Nov 23 12:34:29 localhost kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > Nov 23 12:34:29 localhost kernel: ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, > rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled > (..) > > Thanks in advance for any help, You can't scroll the window back to the messages? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 15:05:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D62116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85EF43F85 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmvg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd4mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.215]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOT00G8JU30LA@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:49:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml10so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml10so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.80]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOT00E6PU30AO@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:49:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from shaw.ca (h68-146-233-172.cg.shawcable.net [68.146.233.172]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOT0055ZU2ZBH@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:49:48 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:49:52 -0700 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN In-reply-to: <3FC13515.6060008@mindcore.net> To: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Message-id: <3FC12B80.3060006@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) References: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> <3FC13515.6060008@mindcore.net> Subject: Re: remote mount hangs sysstem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:05:38 -0000 this is my fstabs file could you please explain where i enter and set values for the -R and -b options # See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic mounts # of network filesystems before modifying this file. # # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s4e /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s3e /var ufs rw 2 2 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #remote mounts #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ v21.higcoup.ca:/usr/src /mnt/v21.highcoup.ca/usr/src nfs r noauto 0 0 v21.higcoup.ca:/usr/local/ect /mnt/v21.highcoup.ca/usr/local/etc nfs r noauto 0 0 #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott W wrote: > RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > >> Is there a way to mount a cdrom or remote file systems using fstab >> but not having it crash out the system. example if i have a nfs >> share set up to another machine and that machine goes down the next >> time i reboot my system the machine hangs when it cannot find the >> share and will not allow me to do anything and i have to hook up a >> monitor and keyboard to get it back the same happens when there is an >> error on a cd rom >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Use the background (-b or bg) and interruptible (-i or intr) options, > along with a reasonable timeout. See > man mount_nfs for the specifics. > > Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 15:06:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119CB16A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FB043F85 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:06:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200311232306130120033c3ie>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:06:13 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 63E2866; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:06:13 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: "Cordula's Web" References: <200311222258.hAMMwApd092388@fw.farid-hajji.net> <16320.5175.69241.145102@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20031123103544.GD9494@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <200311231701.hANH1ipd098716@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Nov 2003 18:06:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200311231701.hANH1ipd098716@fw.farid-hajji.net> Message-ID: <441xryznvf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Monitoring a file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:06:16 -0000 "Cordula's Web" writes: > I've finally found the culprit with a traditional method: > * md5 (binary from an uncompromised machine) on all files > * reinstalling from scratch (not buildworld, but really > installing from FTP) > * md5 again and diff. [snip] > Ugh... system clean again at last. :) You can't be sure. The attacker probably put an suid binary somewhere besides the normal system binaries, in which case it's still there and you may still be vulnerable. When you know you've been hacked, you need to wipe the disk and *really* reinstall from scratch. And be very careful about what you restore from backups, too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 15:44:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854DD16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lphp.org (APastourelles-107-1-8-151.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.252.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A87F43FAF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from sta01 (sta01.lphp.local [192.168.0.3]) by mail.lphp.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANNgWuX035219; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:42:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: sad@mailaps.org, "Stefan A. Deutscher" Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:43:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <200311232058.57532.ajacoutot@lphp.org> <20031123230121.G3319@tiscali.de> In-Reply-To: <20031123230121.G3319@tiscali.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311240043.25732.ajacoutot@lphp.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:44:38 -0000 On Monday 24 November 2003 00:01, Stefan A. Deutscher wrote: > check out bonnie from the ports tree and make sure the test files are > at least the size of your RAM. Otherwise you'll be measuring the speed > of the caching system, which is pretty fast on BSD. Thanks a lot :) Regards. Antoine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 15:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F14816A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from swin.edu.au (c3p0.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3479C43FBF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:51:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au) Received: from pvdbergen.caia.swin.edu.au (pvdbergen.caia.swin.edu.au [136.186.229.26]) by swin.edu.au (8.9.3p2-20030918/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA1040668 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:51:00 +1100 (EST) From: paul van den bergen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:51:00 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> Subject: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:51:11 -0000 Hi all, given how clearly you-all answered my query about 'hostname' (thanks folks) I thought I'd chance my luck. so, let me get this straight... in the IPv4 world there is this thing called DNS and domain names... I can buy my self a name off a name vendor - eg. bergen.org... I then get to own that name... so, Question 1) where does the DNS record for that name reside? with my ISP? with the name vendor? lets say I have a network and wish to name the boxen depending on the OS running on them thus... microsoft.bergen.org SCO.bergen.org Sun.bergen.org Question 2) where do those DNSrecord reside? Question3) surely I'm breaking copyright or trademark laws here? whats to stop me being sued? for that matter, whats to stop vexatious litigation? and what about the name brokers? do they have legal responsibilities? and if I run DNS server on my network am I then a name provider for myself and have to worry about litigation? Question4) or to put it another way, what is the relationship between trademark control institutions and name brokers? -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures caia.swin.edu.au pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au IM:bulwynkl2002 "And some run up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stones to pieces wi' hammers, like so many road makers run daft. They say it is to see how the world was made." Sir Walter Scott, St. Ronan's Well 1824 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 15:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1698216A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F08D43FD7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANNrchQ019370 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:53:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:53:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311232353.hANNrchQ019370@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <441xryznvf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> (message from Lowell Gilbert on 23 Nov 2003 18:06:12 -0500) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311222258.hAMMwApd092388@fw.farid-hajji.net> <16320.5175.69241.145102@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20031123103544.GD9494@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <441xryznvf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Subject: Re: Monitoring a file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:54:22 -0000 > > I've finally found the culprit with a traditional method: > > * md5 (binary from an uncompromised machine) on all files > > * reinstalling from scratch (not buildworld, but really > > installing from FTP) > > * md5 again and diff. > > [snip] > > > Ugh... system clean again at last. :) > > You can't be sure. The attacker probably put an suid binary somewhere > besides the normal system binaries, in which case it's still there and > you may still be vulnerable. When you know you've been hacked, you > need to wipe the disk and *really* reinstall from scratch. And be > very careful about what you restore from backups, too. I've inherited a set of 280 1U rack mount boxes, and I am in the process of reinstalling from scratch every single server. Started with infrastructure (DNS and firewalls), then working down to every server with a fresh FTP install from the first recovered box. Yes, newfs everything, and recompiling _all_ binaries from scratch. I even reconfigured VLANs on the switches to avoid man-in-the-middle attacks like tcp hijacking, while ftp installing, and locked the subnets to these racks until everything's restored. The only backups were databases in SQL and LDIF format and lots of text data. No binaries and no compromised sources to recover from. Of course, the data could've been hacked too, but that would take more time to fix. I've only checked (and cleaned!) authorization and authentication data so far. Sometimes, small incidents trigger major reconfigurations. Good that this happened before monday! ;) Thank you. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 15:57:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E84616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from munk.nu (mail.munk.nu [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD4B43FE3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:57:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from munk@munk.nu) Received: from munk by munk.nu with local (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1AO46R-000Nmc-5W for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:57:19 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:57:19 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031123235719.GE82057@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <200311222031.hAMKVwm2006917@lv.raad.tartu.ee> <200311231117.hANBHBnV020674@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311231117.hANBHBnV020674@lv.raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: User Munk Subject: Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:57:26 -0000 On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 01:16:50PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > > 1. The 'generic' removeable drive trays for IDE that use a normal IDE > > controller (like attaching to the slave or secondary channel on most > > onboard IDE), with another disk or device attached that's being used, do > > not support removeable devices. It's _extremely_ likely that you'll > > hang the IDE bus. > > If there is only CD-ROM (which is almost never used) attached as > primary master and the removable disk attached as secondary master then > maybe I don't need to worry too much about that. Just for the record I have the kind of setup you're talking about - I successfully 'hot swapped' a 40Gb IDE disk using a hdd caddy tray but there are caveats (mostly highlighted above) - using the term 'hot swap' loosely here because it just doesn't feel too clever doing it :P I found the following: - I could remove/reinsert the device only if it was originally in the machine on boot - this is fairly obvious I suppose. Otherwise the device just doesn't show up. - I could re-insert the device successfully but only if I'd umounted it first before removing it. - Removing the disk without umounting produced random results - sometimes the disk could be re-inserted ok, other times not, as the previous poster mentioned the IDE controller appears to hang. For the record iirc the disk was attached to the secondary ide controller with a hdd and a cdrom drive on the first ide controller. Best thing is to play - doesn't make as much noise (or smoke) as hot-swapping PCI cards! -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:02:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC81A16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from solo.cs.vu.nl (solo.cs.vu.nl [130.37.24.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2407243FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:02:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@echteman.nl) Received: from henk.thuis.klop.ws (dyn16.dialup.cs.vu.nl [130.37.192.48]) by solo.cs.vu.nl with esmtp (Smail #87) id m1AO4BA-0009KrC; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:02 +0100 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:02:09 +0100 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Ronald Klop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera7.21/FreeBSD M2 build 497 Subject: order in fstab and md/mfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:02:14 -0000 Hello, Today I noticed my mfs on /tmp not mounting properly, because of the order of the entries in fstab. Mfs can't be mounted too early. Is this meant to be or should there be a second stage for this mount, just like nfs mounts which are deferred until after the network is up. I saw it is documented in one line in 'man fstab', that order is important, but not many examples about this. Running 5.2-BETA cvsupped today on P-II 400Mhz (UP), 256 MB, IDE. Ronald. -- Ronald Klop Amsterdam, The Netherlands From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:08:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095D416A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4F443FF2 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:08:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu163-100-105.nc.rr.com [24.163.100.105]) hAO08VNW011021; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:08:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FC14BFE.1020004@mindcore.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:08:30 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN References: <3FC114D9.40805@shaw.ca> <3FC13515.6060008@mindcore.net> <3FC12B80.3060006@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <3FC12B80.3060006@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote mount hangs sysstem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:08:34 -0000 RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > this is my fstabs file could you please explain where i enter and set > values for the -R and -b options > > # See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic > mounts > # of network filesystems before modifying this file. > # > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options > Dump Pass# > /dev/ad0s2b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/ad0s4e /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0s3e /var ufs rw 2 2 > proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 > > #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > #remote mounts > #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > v21.higcoup.ca:/usr/src > /mnt/v21.highcoup.ca/usr/src nfs r > noauto 0 0 > v21.higcoup.ca:/usr/local/ect > /mnt/v21.highcoup.ca/usr/local/etc nfs r noauto > 0 0 > change this: v21.higcoup.ca:/usr/src /mnt/v21.highcoup.ca/usr/src nfs r noauto 0 0 to: v21.higcoup.ca:/usr/src /mnt/v21.highcoup.ca/usr/src nfs r,bg,intr 0 0 and likewise for the second NFS entry...you should still specifiy a timeout, but you'll have to decide on one..and the system will boot with those options with the NFS server down.. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:09:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44AA16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:09:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from swin.edu.au (c3p0.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF3443FDF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au) Received: from pvdbergen.caia.swin.edu.au (pvdbergen.caia.swin.edu.au [136.186.229.26]) by swin.edu.au (8.9.3p2-20030918/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA1043404 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:09:10 +1100 (EST) From: paul van den bergen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:09:09 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311241109.09724.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> Subject: mounting windows FS questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:09:13 -0000 Hi all, I have a dual boot machine.... Win2k + BSD... obviously I can mount the windows partition under BSD. can I mount the BSD partition(s) under windows? I have been told that writing to the windows partition from BSD is kinda dubious. why is this? is it possible to work around this? -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures caia.swin.edu.au pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au IM:bulwynkl2002 "And some run up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stones to pieces wi' hammers, like so many road makers run daft. They say it is to see how the world was made." Sir Walter Scott, St. Ronan's Well 1824 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:10:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063F116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from solo.cs.vu.nl (solo.cs.vu.nl [130.37.24.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F4C43FDD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:10:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald-freebsd3@klop.yi.org) Received: from henk.thuis.klop.ws (dyn16.dialup.cs.vu.nl [130.37.192.48]) by solo.cs.vu.nl with esmtp (Smail #87) id m1AO4J3-0009KrC; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:10:18 +0100 To: FreeBSD Questions References: From: Ronald Klop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera7.21/FreeBSD M2 build 497 Subject: Re: order in fstab and md/mfs (extra info) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:10:26 -0000 On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:02:09 +0100, Ronald Klop wrote: > Hello, > > Today I noticed my mfs on /tmp not mounting properly, because of the > order of the entries in fstab. > Mfs can't be mounted too early. Is this meant to be or should there be a > second stage for this mount, just like nfs mounts which are deferred > until after the network is up. > > I saw it is documented in one line in 'man fstab', that order is > important, but not many examples about this. > > Running 5.2-BETA cvsupped today on P-II 400Mhz (UP), 256 MB, IDE. It still fails with: mfs: mdconfig (attach) exited with error code 1 Mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, startup aborted Any hints? Same experiences? Ronald. -- Ronald Klop Amsterdam, The Netherlands From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:14:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FC516A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from swin.edu.au (c3p0.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD1E43F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:14:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au) Received: from pvdbergen.caia.swin.edu.au (pvdbergen.caia.swin.edu.au [136.186.229.26]) by swin.edu.au (8.9.3p2-20030918/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA1044174 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:10 +1100 (EST) From: paul van den bergen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:09 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311241114.09882.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> Subject: Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:14:13 -0000 Ooops... I forgot the most important part of my question... IPv6 how does this all work under IPv6? is the IPv6 domain name allocation as fully fledged as teh IPv4 services? I.e. are there and what are the restrictions on who can set up a name broker service for IPv6? what are the likely gottchas? -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures caia.swin.edu.au pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au IM:bulwynkl2002 "And some run up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stones to pieces wi' hammers, like so many road makers run daft. They say it is to see how the world was made." Sir Walter Scott, St. Ronan's Well 1824 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:16:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490FC16A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1719E43FE9 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO0FThQ023616; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:15:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:15:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311240015.hAO0FThQ023616@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au In-reply-to: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> (message from paul van den bergen on Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:51:00 +1100) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:16:11 -0000 > Question 1) where does the DNS record for that name reside? with my ISP? with > the name vendor? Let's assume that the name is bergen.org. bergen.org is stored in three places: * the registry for .org (http://www.pir.org/) points bergen.org to a registrar. * the registrar pointed to by the registry contains the name, along with your contact data, and DNS nameservers. * the DNS nameservers for bergen.org will answer queries to everything related to *.bergen.org. The name vendor registers your name with a registrar, which in turn registers the name with its registry (for org, its PIR, for .com and .net it's VeriSign, and for ccTLDs like .fr, .de. ,us, ... its the national registry for that country). Now, the registry responsible for e.g. .org will use the information stored to configure the DNS name servers for .org by adding name server records for bergen.org. In other words, the .org name servers are configured to point to the DNS nameservers for bergen.org. > lets say I have a network and wish to name the boxen depending on the OS > running on them thus... > microsoft.bergen.org > SCO.bergen.org > Sun.bergen.org > > Question 2) > where do those DNSrecord reside? On the nameservers of bergen.org. These are the name servers you configured at your registrar when you manage your domain. > Question3) > surely I'm breaking copyright or trademark laws here? whats to stop me being > sued? for that matter, whats to stop vexatious litigation? and what about the > name brokers? do they have legal responsibilities? and if I run DNS server on > my network am I then a name provider for myself and have to worry about > litigation? You are totally responsible for respecting coyright and trademark laws. Registrars (and registries) are not responsible for this. In the agreements you electronically sign, you confirm that you are responsible for the names that you choose. If a company discovers that you've registered "their" name in your name, they'll contact you (using the admin address contact that you submitted at your registrar), and will require you to return or give them this name. You would then agreen to a transfer of domain to the company, if you think that their claim is justified. But if you disagree, you'd enter a formalized procedure called UDRP (Uniform Domain Resolution Policy) so solve the issue: http://www.icann.org/udrp/udrp.htm but be careful: nothing prevents a legal name owner for suing you anyway, and you'll have to prove that you acquired/registered the name in good faith. So don't register ibm.com [if it were not already registered!] :-) > Question4) > or to put it another way, what is the relationship between trademark control > institutions and name brokers? I don't know an answer to this. I'd just assume that there are no relationships at all, and that you are responsible for the names that you acquire, from whatever source (name brokers, or self registration). Of to put in another way: the domain namespace is not directly related to the trademark, or registered mark namespace; but generally, TM or (R)'s have precedence over DNS domain names. You would need to seek legal assistance here, if you are not sure about the status of a DNS name! > Dr Paul van den Bergen > Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures > caia.swin.edu.au > pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au > IM:bulwynkl2002 > "And some run up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stones > to pieces wi' hammers, like so many road makers run daft. > They say it is to see how the world was made." > Sir Walter Scott, St. Ronan's Well 1824 -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:16:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD4E16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ce.sharif.ac.ir (ce.sharif.ac.ir [81.31.164.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD56C43FAF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from falaki@ce.sharif.edu) Received: from ce.sharif.edu (ce.sharif.ac.ir [127.0.0.1]) by ce.sharif.ac.ir (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id hAO8lru2012963 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:48:05 -0500 Received: from 81.31.160.71 (SquirrelMail authenticated user falaki) by ce.sharif.edu with HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:48:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2294.81.31.160.71.1069663685.squirrel@ce.sharif.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:48:05 -0500 (EST) From: falaki@ce.sharif.edu To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: telnet and ssh problem. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:16:31 -0000 Hi Every body; I have a FreeBSD Server. It has telnet and ssh up. They work, but not properly. When I ssh to the server or telnet from Linux shell by each Enter I see the following message: bash: \033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME%%.*}:${PWD/#$HOME/~}\007: bad substitution But when I telnet from Windows no such error is shown, but obviously the terminal does not work properly, especially when using things like less, vim and ... I would be thankful if someone help me. Yours, Mohammad H. Falaki. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:16:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E540116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C3A43FAF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (dhcp065-031-041-029.woh.rr.com [65.31.41.29]) hAO0Gb5H003917 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:16:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000c01c3b220$11f089a0$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:15:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: vinum configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:16:41 -0000 Hello, Trying to get vinum going on a 5.1 machine, with two IDE 40 gb hard drives at the moment, two more will be added later once i know my setup is working. Below are my disklabels for ad0s1 and ad1s1 as well as the vinum configuration. I need to know if all of this is right and if not what is not up? Also, how do i get the data from one drive to the other? As of now drive2 is empty. Thanks. Dave. # # bsdlabel ad0s1 |more # /dev/ad0s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 245760 1048576 4.2BSD 2048 16384 15368 b: 1048295 281 swap c: 78156162 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 245760 1294336 4.2BSD 2048 16384 15368 e: 204800 1540096 4.2BSD 2048 16384 12808 f: 6291456 1744896 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 g: 70119810 8036352 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 h: 78156146 16 vinum # bsdlabel ad1s1 |more # /dev/ad1s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] b: 1048576 0 swap c: 78156162 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 245760 1048576 4.2BSD 2048 16384 15368 e: 204800 1294336 4.2BSD 2048 16384 12808 f: 204800 1499136 4.2BSD 2048 16384 12808 g: 6291456 1703936 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 h: 70160770 7995392 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 # more /etc/vinum.conf drive Vinum1 device /dev/ad0s1h volume root setupstate plex org concat sd len 245760s driveoffset 1048576s volume home setupstate plex org concat sd len 70119810s driveoffset 8036352s volume swap setupstate plex org concat sd len 1048295s driveoffset 281s volume tmp setupstate plex org concat sd len 204800s driveoffset 1540096s volume var setupstate plex org concat sd len 245760s driveoffset 1294336s volume usr setupstate plex org concat sd len 6291456s driveoffset 1744896s # vinum vinum -> list 1 drives: D Vinum1 State: up /dev/ad0s1h A: 38162/38162 MB (100%) 6 volumes: V root State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 0 B V home State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 0 B V swap State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 0 B V tmp State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 0 B V var State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 0 B V usr State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 0 B 6 plexes: P root.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 0 Size: 0 B P home.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 0 Size: 0 B P swap.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 0 Size: 0 B P tmp.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 0 Size: 0 B P var.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 0 Size: 0 B P usr.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 0 Size: 0 B 0 subdisks: vinum -> # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:22:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0270E16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893A443FA3 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu163-100-105.nc.rr.com [24.163.100.105]) hAO0MJse018227; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:22:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FC14F37.5010806@mindcore.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:22:15 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: paul van den bergen References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:22:25 -0000 paul van den bergen wrote: >Hi all, > >given how clearly you-all answered my query about 'hostname' (thanks folks) I >thought I'd chance my luck. > >so, let me get this straight... > >in the IPv4 world there is this thing called DNS and domain names... I can buy >my self a name off a name vendor - eg. bergen.org... I then get to own that >name... so, >Question 1) where does the DNS record for that name reside? with my ISP? with >the name vendor? > > > Well, the short version is there are several 'root servers' which anyone running BIND/DNS should laready have a list of- they are the initially consulted servers with respect to which servers are 'authoritative' for a given TLD(Top level domain, eg .com, .net, .edu, ....) If you registered a .org domain, one of the TLD Domain servers for .org would be queried, and then down to your domain, eg bergen.org, which would point to who is registered as being Authoritative for the bergen.org domain. This is generally handled when you register the domain name- you're given the option in many cases to have the registrar (eg, Network Solutions, GoDaddy.com (sucky name, but very inexpensive domain registrations), etc) handle DNS for your domain, or to specify your own name servers (which can be hosted by yourself, or someone that has agreed to providfe DNS services for your domain(s)). In theory, and generally in practice, these changes can take up to ~12 hours or so to propgate, up to 48-72 hours to propogate your DNS records to the rest of the nameservers online. >lets say I have a network and wish to name the boxen depending on the OS >running on them thus... >microsoft.bergen.org >SCO.bergen.org >Sun.bergen.org > >Question 2) >where do those DNSrecord reside? > > On whomever is authoritative for the bergen.com domain. type at a Unix prompt: dig bergen.org and you'll see the system ns.bergen.org is Authoritative for that domain...although you may want to do a 'dig bergen.com' for comparison :-) >Question3) >surely I'm breaking copyright or trademark laws here? whats to stop me being >sued? for that matter, whats to stop vexatious litigation? and what about the >name brokers? do they have legal responsibilities? and if I run DNS server on >my network am I then a name provider for myself and have to worry about >litigation? > > This is a grey area (surprise), with both the Trademark owners as well as the 'little people' winning in various cases. AFAIK, I haven't seen anyone go to court over the hostname portion of their site- remember, 'the Net as we know it' has now almost been reduced to simply ftp.domain.TLD and www.domain.TLD at this point, with 'the world at large' rarely using hostnames other than ftp or www. Also, see: http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/help/legal-info.jhtml and http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/help/domain-magistrate.jhtml for some info on domain disputes, or Google for 'domain disputes' >Question4) >or to put it another way, what is the relationship between trademark control >institutions and name brokers? > > See above, it's still being figured out ;-) Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:24:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3107616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0CE43FBD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:24:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu163-100-105.nc.rr.com [24.163.100.105]) hAO0NvFm010706; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:23:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FC14F9B.8010103@mindcore.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:23:55 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: falaki@ce.sharif.edu References: <2294.81.31.160.71.1069663685.squirrel@ce.sharif.edu> In-Reply-To: <2294.81.31.160.71.1069663685.squirrel@ce.sharif.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet and ssh problem. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:24:31 -0000 falaki@ce.sharif.edu wrote: >Hi Every body; > I have a FreeBSD Server. It has telnet and ssh up. They work, but not >properly. When I ssh to the server or telnet from Linux shell by each >Enter I see the following message: > >bash: \033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME%%.*}:${PWD/#$HOME/~}\007: bad substitution > > But when I telnet from Windows no such error is shown, but obviously >the terminal does not work properly, especially >when using things like less, vim and ... > >I would be thankful if someone help me. > >Yours, >Mohammad H. Falaki. > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Sounds like a classic terminal emulation issue. On your Linux system, do: export TERM=xterm and then telnet or ssh in. Let me guess, you're using a 'funky' terminal like GNOME Terminal or KTerm? Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:26:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B6116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-26.ig.com.br (smtp-26.ig.com.br [200.226.132.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 783A243F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hlen@ig.com.br) Received: (qmail 23599 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2003 00:26:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ig.com.br) (200.141.82.187) by smtp-26.ig.com.br with SMTP; 24 Nov 2003 00:26:41 -0000 Message-ID: <3FC1502C.50907@ig.com.br> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:26:20 -0200 From: Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030525 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3FC0CAD4.9050909@ig.com.br> In-Reply-To: <3FC0CAD4.9050909@ig.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hlen@ig.com.br Subject: Re: fsck error messages don't get logged? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:26:34 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: >You can't scroll the window back to the messages? I just found out about Scroll Lock, checking better.. was convinced I had some sort of keyboard problem because Shft-PgUp never worked :). Well, tough luck.. I had already booted again, so the messages are gone. It would be nice to have them logged. Thanks, -- Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:26:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4158916A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D0143F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:26:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu163-100-105.nc.rr.com [24.163.100.105]) hAO0Qcse022630; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:26:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FC1503D.9060503@mindcore.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:26:37 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: paul van den bergen References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> <200311241114.09882.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <200311241114.09882.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:26:41 -0000 paul van den bergen wrote: >Ooops... > >I forgot the most important part of my question... IPv6 > >how does this all work under IPv6? is the IPv6 domain name allocation as >fully fledged as teh IPv4 services? I.e. are there and what are the >restrictions on who can set up a name broker service for IPv6? what are the >likely gottchas? > > > Paul- AFAIK, IPv6 is in fact enabled/capable in BIND currently, but no one uses it- IPv6 will be a LONG time in coming to everyone, with the major challenge being a 'transition phase' where devices (routers for a prime example) are able to handle both ipv4 and ipv6...without that, ipv6 is useless outside of 'playing with it locally.' This shouldn't have any effect on name registrations, they will just eventually map to both ipv4 AND ipv6 addresses.. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:29:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F13116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186BF43FBF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:29:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu163-100-105.nc.rr.com [24.163.100.105]) hAO0SwNW002764; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:28:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FC150C8.1070704@mindcore.net> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:28:56 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: paul van den bergen References: <200311241109.09724.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <200311241109.09724.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting windows FS questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:29:01 -0000 paul van den bergen wrote: >Hi all, > >I have a dual boot machine.... Win2k + BSD... > >obviously I can mount the windows partition under BSD. >can I mount the BSD partition(s) under windows? > >I have been told that writing to the windows partition from BSD is kinda >dubious. why is this? is it possible to work around this? > > > > > Unsure if there's anything to mount BSD partitions from within Windows- I wouldn't be surprised, but as Windows uses broken/different permissions and file attributes, I wouldn't really want to do this. For mounting Windows filesystems, you can mount fat/vfat/fat32 partitions all day long read-write, but NTFS uses some sort of sequence IDs in their file attributes, which if ignored or screwed up, can cause serious issues on the filesystem....so in short, I don't mount NTFS read/write ;-) Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:31:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909C116A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7BB43FBD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:31:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO0ULhQ028174; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:30:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:30:21 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311240030.hAO0ULhQ028174@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au In-reply-to: <200311241114.09882.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> (message from paul van den bergen on Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:09 +1100) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> <200311241114.09882.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:31:02 -0000 > how does this all work under IPv6? is the IPv6 domain name allocation as > fully fledged as teh IPv4 services? I.e. are there and what are the > restrictions on who can set up a name broker service for IPv6? what are the > likely gottchas? I don't know for sure here, so please take this with a grain of salt: IPv6 addresses are represented by AAAA instead of A records in DNS nameservers. Right now, I think that you can only point .org (and other [cc]TLD) nameservers to nameservers residing on an IPv4 address [anyone correct me if I'm wrong here]. But you could always configure your nameservers (let's say ns1.bergen.org, ns2.bergen.org) to return IPv6 addresses to some names, by adding AAAA records to them. But since IPv6 names are not (yet) globally routed on the Internet, this will have local meaning only (e.g. on an intranet). Generally speaking: IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are _never_ allocated by name brokers or DNS systems. They reside at a much lower level, which has nothing to do with _names_. If you connect to the Internet, your upstream provider(s) will assign to you IPv4 address blocks automatically. You would normally not be able to influence this, because it is deeply intertwined with the routing protocols that all network operators use to transmit data on the Internet. You may ask how network operators get their IP address blocks. Check out IANA: http://www.iana.org/ especially: http://www.iana.org/ipaddress/ip-addresses.htm -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:35:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5196416A4D0 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9434D43FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:35:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1BD2BD35 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:35:04 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59448511FA; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:05:02 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:05:02 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: sad@mailaps.org Message-ID: <20031124003502.GR82843@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200311232058.57532.ajacoutot@lphp.org> <20031123230121.G3319@tiscali.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ivHc2SZskddb40s2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031123230121.G3319@tiscali.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Antoine Jacoutot cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:35:08 -0000 --ivHc2SZskddb40s2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 23 November 2003 at 23:01:21 +0000, Stefan A. Deutscher wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 08:58:54PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: >> Hi :) >> >> Is there a hard drive speed measurement available for FreeBSD ? >> I don't need anything fancy, just something like "hdparm -t" under Linux. > > check out bonnie from the ports tree and make sure the test files are > at least the size of your RAM. Otherwise you'll be measuring the speed > of the caching system, which is pretty fast on BSD. Bonnie is for measuring system throughput, not disks. Try rawio for disks alone. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --ivHc2SZskddb40s2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wVI2IubykFB6QiMRAhHiAJ4te3cJUPKXiGRrea9xpJ/mKpX5OACgr1G4 0w3JwTEdwl9T4dIFDulxbMM= =GYDU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ivHc2SZskddb40s2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:43:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F93716A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD0243F75 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:43:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO0gahQ031530; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:42:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:42:36 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311240042.hAO0gahQ031530@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: message from Cordula's Web on 24 Nov 2003 01:15:28 +0100 X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> Subject: Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:43:16 -0000 > > microsoft.bergen.org > > SCO.bergen.org > > Sun.bergen.org > > Question3) > > surely I'm breaking copyright or trademark laws here? whats to stop me being > > You are totally responsible for respecting coyright and trademark laws. > Registrars (and registries) are not responsible for this. In the > agreements you electronically sign, you confirm that you are responsible > for the names that you choose. > > If a company discovers that you've registered "their" name in your > name, they'll contact you (using the admin address contact that > you submitted at your registrar), and will require you to return > or give them this name. You would then agreen to a transfer of > domain to the company, if you think that their claim is justified. > > But if you disagree, you'd enter a formalized procedure called > UDRP (Uniform Domain Resolution Policy) so solve the issue: > http://www.icann.org/udrp/udrp.htm > but be careful: nothing prevents a legal name owner for suing > you anyway, and you'll have to prove that you acquired/registered > the name in good faith. So don't register ibm.com [if it were > not already registered!] :-) The UDRP applies only to top level names, like "bergen." Using trademarks from within your own domain name (as in SCO.bergen.org) does completly fall within your responsibility. Technically, the legal name owners could sue you for infrigement, but it's not clear how the courts would decide on a case-by-case basis. Add to this widely differing legislations all around the world, you're absolutely uncertain here. You should really seek legal advice to be sure. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:46:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999F116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from stratus.mercurycloud.net (stratus.mercurycloud.net [64.246.167.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADA443F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:46:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists-wp@mercurycloud.net) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (12-230-169-65.client.attbi.com [12.230.169.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stratus.mercurycloud.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4A989; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:45:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20031123215725.GC557@dds.nl> References: <3B75ECFD-1DE6-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> <20031123215725.GC557@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <98017B2C-1E17-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Will Prater Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:46:09 -0800 To: Alex de Kruijff X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: daemon monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:46:09 -0000 Sorry, I mispoke. I will be using Nagios to monitor, but I need to make sure they will restart if there is an error. Will nagios do this as well? Thanks On Nov 23, 2003, at 1:57 PM, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 10:52:48AM -0800, Will Prater wrote: >> List, >> >> What are most of you using to monitor the running daemons? I have been >> loooking into DJB daemontools which seems appropriate, but are there >> any others that you reccomend? >> >> If DJB's daemontools is the one, could I get some more examples? I am >> primarily trying to keep my mail system online: postfix, cyrus, >> saslauthd, mysql, and spamassassin. > > I would advise Nagios. > > -- > Alex > > Articles based on solutions that I use: > http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --will From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:46:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F231B16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23FE43FAF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:46:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64402BD35 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:46:37 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15272511F9; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:16:36 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:16:36 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: dave Message-ID: <20031124004636.GS82843@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <000c01c3b220$11f089a0$0200a8c0@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KD3NH8oGZ7XN2Llp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000c01c3b220$11f089a0$0200a8c0@satellite> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vinum configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:46:41 -0000 --KD3NH8oGZ7XN2Llp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, 23 November 2003 at 19:15:30 -0500, dave wrote: > Hello, > Trying to get vinum going on a 5.1 machine, with two IDE 40 gb hard > drives at the moment, two more will be added later once i know my setup is > working. Below are my disklabels for ad0s1 and ad1s1 as well as the vinum > configuration. I need to know if all of this is right and if not what is = not > up? Also, how do i get the data from one drive to the other? As of now > drive2 is empty. So is drive Vinum1 from Vinum's point of view. > # more /etc/vinum.conf > drive Vinum1 device /dev/ad0s1h > volume root setupstate > plex org concat > sd len 245760s driveoffset 1048576s You haven't told Vinum where to put the subdisk. You must have received an error message telling you about that. The result is correct: > 0 subdisks: > vinum -> That's not your question, but I'm surprised it isn't. =20 To your question: if you add a second plex, it'll come up in "corrupt" or some such state. With 'start plex.p1' (for example) you can bring it up, which involves copying the data. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --KD3NH8oGZ7XN2Llp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wVTrIubykFB6QiMRAnh1AJ9If4XKKsHa4YS95o5Y94UEqw86RACdHiAn j6q0GY3nxG/BggVOeo74yX0= =JJiA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KD3NH8oGZ7XN2Llp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:48:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889BD16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dydimus.dreamhost.com (dydimus.dreamhost.com [66.33.197.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EF143FBF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:48:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@duophone.com) Received: from kinakuta (pcp02431153pcs.trnrsv01.nj.comcast.net [68.84.72.157]) by dydimus.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F374F881 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:48:29 -0800 (PST) From: "john" To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:48:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcOyISkdb2F/Opf7TyWwIX+N+73lcQAArmrQ In-Reply-To: <20031124002303.5D19816A4D8@hub.freebsd.org> Message-Id: <20031124004829.61F374F881@dydimus.dreamhost.com> Subject: RE: NEED_FIRST NEED_LAST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:48:35 -0000 >From one computer lab monitor to another, BSD is good stuff. I've recently wiped my RH 9.0 machine to install BSD on the recommendation of one of my professors and now most of the advanced lab machines are running it, much to the delight of the users. Key points: 1.) The ports collection. Forget searching around the web for some package, downloading it, ./configuring it, all that junk. With the bsd ports collection, stored in /usr/ports, you cd to the directory of the application you want to install and "make install clean". Build and run dependancies are checked and (more often then not) taken care of, and the program is installed and integrated into your system. Same applies for deinstalling. More info and a listing/search of current ports at freebsd.org/ports 2.) Stability. freeBSD may not be the most cutting edge build out there, considering it's unix, not linux (and thus requires linux emulation packages), but it's probably one of the most stable and secure. 3.) Community. I, for one, would get quite frustrated when looking for linux info that pertained to MY SPECIFIC DISTRO. It wasn't enough to just search for info on linux.. The community seems to be much more centralized and in touch with the BSD community in my experience. Of course, I'm fairly newbie, so I'm sure there's a lot more info you can get if you're looking for more advanced reasons. There's always freebsd.org for you to peruse and look things up. ~john > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:08:14 -0600 (CST) > From: NEED_FIRST NEED_LAST > Subject: Material > To: > Message-ID: > <3479.165.234.213.193.1069618094.squirrel@mail.misu.nodak.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi, I am a student at Minot State University in Minot,ND. I > work in the > computer lab and was noticing all the posters that we have up > are getting > old and out dated. Some one mentioned to me FreeBSD (rocks). > I have never > heard about freebsd so I was wondering do you have any > material that you > could send me about FreeBSD. Maybe you could send me some posters to > display in the lab. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:49:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5663C16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from qmail.pyrospheric.net (12-218-60-36.client.mchsi.com [12.218.60.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775B143F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phoetoid@pyrospheric.net) Received: from xenon (xenon.pyrospheric.net [192.168.1.14]) by qmail.pyrospheric.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE966115 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:27:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Phoetoid" To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:52:25 -0600 Message-ID: <001501c3b22d$9c1b1980$0e01a8c0@pyrospheric.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: xcdroast + IDE drive possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:49:50 -0000 I was wondering if there is any way I can use xcdroast with an IDE drive? I read something the other day about using atapicam in your kernel to allow atapi devices to be used like scsi devices, but eh I cant remember it! Anyways, if anyone has tips on how to do this or perhaps a suggestion for another X11 app to burn CD's please let me know! Thanks in advance -phoetoid From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:53:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F4416A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206CA43FEC for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:53:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2003112400533101400oq5cme>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:53:31 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4B81E66; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:53:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto References: <3FC0CAD4.9050909@ig.com.br> <3FC1502C.50907@ig.com.br> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Nov 2003 19:53:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3FC1502C.50907@ig.com.br> Message-ID: <44ptfibn90.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck error messages don't get logged? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:53:32 -0000 Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto writes: > It would be nice to have them logged. Any serious errors will stop the fsck to prompt for what to do next, so it's not as bad as it seems... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 16:56:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67ED816A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9483243FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:56:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2003112400562901500ptcnne>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:56:33 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3A48870; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:56:29 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Phoetoid" References: <001501c3b22d$9c1b1980$0e01a8c0@pyrospheric.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Nov 2003 19:56:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: <001501c3b22d$9c1b1980$0e01a8c0@pyrospheric.net> Message-ID: <44r7zy7feq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xcdroast + IDE drive possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:56:34 -0000 "Phoetoid" writes: > I was wondering if there is any way I can use xcdroast with an IDE > drive? I read something the other day about using atapicam in your > kernel to allow atapi devices to be used like scsi devices, but eh I > cant remember it! Anyways, if anyone has tips on how to do this or > perhaps a suggestion for another X11 app to burn CD's please let me > know! Try "man atapicam". Also, ATAPICAM is discussed in the handbook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 17:09:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0552516A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12E043FD7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:09:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6164013649; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:09:14 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:09:14 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Jonas Manalive Message-ID: <20031124010914.GA31384@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <1069624490.51320.26.camel@localhost> <20031123223513.GC4608@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <1069627890.23052.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1069627890.23052.6.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix/procmail/fetchmail/spamassassin setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:09:18 -0000 On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 02:51:30PM -0800, Jonas Manalive wrote: > > could you please verfiy your postfix configuration using `postfix > > check'? Perhaps this will show some errors. > > No errors. > > > Other hints: Check /var/log/maillog (and post some lines from the tail > > if you still can fix your problem). > > A'ha! What do I do here to fix this? (I think I should have changed the > alias database from alias_maps = dbm:/etc/aliases to alias_maps = > hash:/etc/aliases - or should that be nis or netinfo?) If you want to use the existing alias_map from sendmail in /etc/mail, the entry should be: alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "A person should be able to do a small bit of everything, specialisation is for insects" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 17:11:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AF216A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp08.wxs.nl (smtp08.wxs.nl [195.121.6.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF9943FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:11:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akruijff@www.kruijff.org) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOU00JMC0KQ6Y@smtp08.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:10:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAO1BeLU060807; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:11:40 +0100 (CET envelope-from akruijff@Alex.lan) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hAO1Bdd7060806; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:11:39 +0100 (CET envelope-from akruijff) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:11:39 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <98017B2C-1E17-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> To: Will Prater Message-id: <20031124011139.GA60027@dds.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i References: <3B75ECFD-1DE6-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> <20031123215725.GC557@dds.nl> <98017B2C-1E17-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: daemon monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:11:39 -0000 Dear Will, I've moved you text to the buttom so its more readable for other. On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 04:46:09PM -0800, Will Prater wrote: > On Nov 23, 2003, at 1:57 PM, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > >On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 10:52:48AM -0800, Will Prater wrote: > >>List, > >> > >>What are most of you using to monitor the running daemons? I have been > >>loooking into DJB daemontools which seems appropriate, but are there > >>any others that you reccomend? > >> > >>If DJB's daemontools is the one, could I get some more examples? I am > >>primarily trying to keep my mail system online: postfix, cyrus, > >>saslauthd, mysql, and spamassassin. > > > >I would advise Nagios. > > Sorry, I mispoke. I will be using Nagios to monitor, but I need to make > sure they will restart if there is an error. Will nagios do this as > well? > I don't *think* so. You could write a sh script (or any other) that does this. It could contain this line: result=px aux | grep SomeDaemon | wc -l If the result is zero than SomeDaemon is not running. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 17:12:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38FE16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dydimus.dreamhost.com (dydimus.dreamhost.com [66.33.197.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AA243FBF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:12:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@duophone.com) Received: from kinakuta (pcp02431153pcs.trnrsv01.nj.comcast.net [68.84.72.157]) by dydimus.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA744F88A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: "john" To: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:12:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcOyISkdb2F/Opf7TyWwIX+N+73lcQAA7Ueg In-Reply-To: <20031124002303.5D19816A4D8@hub.freebsd.org> Message-Id: <20031124011208.9FA744F88A@dydimus.dreamhost.com> Subject: 5.0 vs. 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:12:14 -0000 I'm currently running 5.0 release and am wondering about the possible positives/negatives of switching to another release, particularly 5.1 current. I'm running it as my "work" machine for programming and school type things, side by side with my windows machine, so it's not *essential*, but I would definitely like to eventually be done with windows all-together. Strangely, I've never been able to get this system to boot to the sysinstall menu with any 4.8 or 4.9 build, so provided I'm not just doing something horribly stupid they're not an option. My end goals would be to have this machine see and be visible to my windows network, set up email, ftp, and web servers, and have as much multimedia functionality and windows program accessibility as possible. ~john From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 17:19:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D6616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from munk.nu (mail.munk.nu [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A0C43FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from munk@munk.nu) Received: from munk by munk.nu with local (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1AO5Np-000PGQ-5j for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:19:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:19:21 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20031124011921.GC96651@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B75ECFD-1DE6-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> <20031123215725.GC557@dds.nl> <98017B2C-1E17-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> <20031124011139.GA60027@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031124011139.GA60027@dds.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: User Munk Subject: Re: daemon monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:19:23 -0000 On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 02:11:39AM +0100, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 04:46:09PM -0800, Will Prater wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2003, at 1:57 PM, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > >On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 10:52:48AM -0800, Will Prater wrote: > > >>List, > > >> > > >>What are most of you using to monitor the running daemons? I have been > > >>loooking into DJB daemontools which seems appropriate, but are there > > >>any others that you reccomend? > > >> > > >>If DJB's daemontools is the one, could I get some more examples? I am > > >>primarily trying to keep my mail system online: postfix, cyrus, > > >>saslauthd, mysql, and spamassassin. > > > > > >I would advise Nagios. > > > > Sorry, I mispoke. I will be using Nagios to monitor, but I need to make > > sure they will restart if there is an error. Will nagios do this as > > well? > > > I don't *think* so. > > You could write a sh script (or any other) that does this. It could > contain this line: > result=px aux | grep SomeDaemon | wc -l > > If the result is zero than SomeDaemon is not running. Alternatively you could just write a script that polls a number of pid-files, one per daemon you want to monitor, and checks if the daemon is still running - if not it restarts the daemon. The gist of the script would be: - for each pid, send a CHLD signal to the pid - if the return code is 0, the process is still running so do nothing, otherwise restart the daemon I've not used daemontools too much away from djbdns suite, but presumably you could use supervise to do the work. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 17:43:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8D616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from swin.edu.au (c3p0.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CED243F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:43:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au) Received: from pvdbergen.caia.swin.edu.au (pvdbergen.caia.swin.edu.au [136.186.229.26]) by swin.edu.au (8.9.3p2-20030918/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA532941; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:43:11 +1100 (EST) From: paul van den bergen To: cpghost@cordula.ws Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:43:11 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> <200311241114.09882.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> <200311240030.hAO0ULhQ028174@fw.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <200311240030.hAO0ULhQ028174@fw.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311241243.11508.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:43:29 -0000 as usual, there has been a bit of a misunderstanding... being a loosely typed language, Engliosh is difficult to communicate in :-0 Names, addresses and DNS are obviously different things. I understand where IPv6 addresses come from (sort of). I understand (sort of) how IPv6 works for DNS records relating names to IPv6 addresses what I was really asking is: in the IPv4 world, name brokers "sell" names that are then related to IPv4 addresses. Legality of the name choice etc. is generally owner onus... Is there a similar sort of (or coincident) naming authority for IPv6 based names? example. if I operate a network, boxen1.example.org, boxen2.example.org, etc., as an IPv4 address space and a second coincident network, boxen1.example6.org, boxen2.example6.org, etc., as an IPv6 based address space, where does the authority to allocate the IPv6-network based names reside? the technical side of it is clear... someone somewhere needs to keep a track of the names... anyway, this is straying somewhat from the core subject matter of this list... On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:30 am, Cordula's Web wrote: > > how does this all work under IPv6? is the IPv6 domain name allocation as > > fully fledged as teh IPv4 services? I.e. are there and what are the > > restrictions on who can set up a name broker service for IPv6? what are > > the likely gottchas? > > I don't know for sure here, so please take this with a grain of salt: > > IPv6 addresses are represented by AAAA instead of A records in > DNS nameservers. Right now, I think that you can only point > .org (and other [cc]TLD) nameservers to nameservers residing > on an IPv4 address [anyone correct me if I'm wrong here]. > But you could always configure your nameservers (let's say > ns1.bergen.org, ns2.bergen.org) to return IPv6 addresses > to some names, by adding AAAA records to them. > > But since IPv6 names are not (yet) globally routed on the Internet, > this will have local meaning only (e.g. on an intranet). > > Generally speaking: IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are _never_ > allocated by name brokers or DNS systems. They reside at > a much lower level, which has nothing to do with _names_. > If you connect to the Internet, your upstream provider(s) > will assign to you IPv4 address blocks automatically. > You would normally not be able to influence this, because > it is deeply intertwined with the routing protocols that > all network operators use to transmit data on the Internet. > > You may ask how network operators get their IP address > blocks. Check out IANA: http://www.iana.org/ especially: > http://www.iana.org/ipaddress/ip-addresses.htm -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures caia.swin.edu.au pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au IM:bulwynkl2002 "And some run up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stones to pieces wi' hammers, like so many road makers run daft. They say it is to see how the world was made." Sir Walter Scott, St. Ronan's Well 1824 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 17:47:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF0116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B616343F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAO1laZk086185; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:47:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:47:36 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto Message-ID: <20031124014736.GH2146@dan.emsphone.com> References: <3FC0CAD4.9050909@ig.com.br> <3FC1502C.50907@ig.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC1502C.50907@ig.com.br> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck error messages don't get logged? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:47:38 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 23), Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto said: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > >You can't scroll the window back to the messages? > > I just found out about Scroll Lock, checking better.. was convinced I > had some sort of keyboard problem because Shft-PgUp never worked :). > Well, tough luck.. I had already booted again, so the messages are gone. > It would be nice to have them logged. They should go into /var/log/console. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 17:50:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265BF16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from p1028-ipbffx02marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp (p1028-ipbffx02marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.111.132.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C56E43FBD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:50:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lukek@meibin.net) Received: (qmail 13975 invoked by uid 89); 24 Nov 2003 01:50:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (192.168.10.35) by 192.168.20.5 with SMTP; 24 Nov 2003 01:50:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:48:33 +0900 From: Luke Kearney To: paul van den bergen In-Reply-To: <200311241243.11508.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> References: <200311240030.hAO0ULhQ028174@fw.farid-hajji.net> <200311241243.11508.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> Message-Id: <20031124104543.153A.LUKEK@meibin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.07.01 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:50:24 -0000 On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:43:11 +1100 paul van den bergen granted us these pearls of wisdom: > as usual, there has been a bit of a misunderstanding... being a loosely typed > language, Engliosh is difficult to communicate in :-0 > > Names, addresses and DNS are obviously different things. > > I understand where IPv6 addresses come from (sort of). > I understand (sort of) how IPv6 works for DNS records relating names to IPv6 > addresses > > what I was really asking is: in the IPv4 world, name brokers "sell" names that > are then related to IPv4 addresses. Legality of the name choice etc. is > generally owner onus... Is there a similar sort of (or coincident) naming > authority for IPv6 based names? > > example. > > if I operate a network, boxen1.example.org, boxen2.example.org, etc., as an > IPv4 address space and a second coincident network, boxen1.example6.org, > boxen2.example6.org, etc., as an IPv6 based address space, where does the > authority to allocate the IPv6-network based names reside? > > the technical side of it is clear... someone somewhere needs to keep a track > of the names... > > anyway, this is straying somewhat from the core subject matter of this list... > > > On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:30 am, Cordula's Web wrote: > > > how does this all work under IPv6? is the IPv6 domain name allocation as > > > fully fledged as teh IPv4 services? I.e. are there and what are the > > > restrictions on who can set up a name broker service for IPv6? what are > > > the likely gottchas? > > > > I don't know for sure here, so please take this with a grain of salt: > > > > IPv6 addresses are represented by AAAA instead of A records in > > DNS nameservers. Right now, I think that you can only point > > .org (and other [cc]TLD) nameservers to nameservers residing > > on an IPv4 address [anyone correct me if I'm wrong here]. > > But you could always configure your nameservers (let's say > > ns1.bergen.org, ns2.bergen.org) to return IPv6 addresses > > to some names, by adding AAAA records to them. > > > > But since IPv6 names are not (yet) globally routed on the Internet, > > this will have local meaning only (e.g. on an intranet). > > > > Generally speaking: IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are _never_ > > allocated by name brokers or DNS systems. They reside at > > a much lower level, which has nothing to do with _names_. > > If you connect to the Internet, your upstream provider(s) > > will assign to you IPv4 address blocks automatically. > > You would normally not be able to influence this, because > > it is deeply intertwined with the routing protocols that > > all network operators use to transmit data on the Internet. > > > > You may ask how network operators get their IP address > > blocks. Check out IANA: http://www.iana.org/ especially: > > http://www.iana.org/ipaddress/ip-addresses.htm > AFAIK domain names have little to do with your choice of IPV4 or IPV6. There can be only one registered owner of any given domain name and that domain name space could be either v4 or v6 at the discretion of the owner. LukeK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 18:00:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EAD16A4D7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A74443FF7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAO206vK008802; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:00:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:00:06 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: paul beard Message-ID: <20031124020006.GI2146@dan.emsphone.com> References: <8FF2C6A7-1DFB-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8FF2C6A7-1DFB-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLA violation?: snmp renumbering stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:00:42 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 23), paul beard said: > For some reason, my locally installed snmp daemons decided to > renumber the elements in the hrStorageTable, meaning all the attached > disks were being either misreported or just plain dropped from my > graphs (paulbeard.no-ip.org/mrtg/blue/index.html). Not that the new > numbering doesn't make sense but I didn't know this was going to > happen. > > How to discover and fix it? snmptable is my friend. As shown here, > the memory used by the kernel is listed first, followed by the disks. > The disks were numbered starting at 1 before . . . . . I don't think snmp tables have any defined order. I don't even know if the index for a particular resource is guaranteed to be stable across filesystem dismount/remounts. Something like this should work: snmptable -Cf : blue hrStorageTable | grep :/var: | awk -F : '{print $4 * $5}' I use something similar in a script to graph disk usage in mrtg. It sould be really nice if snmptable had a built-in flag to print a particular cell from a table, though. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 18:03:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F385716A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041C243FE1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:03:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO22ThQ049572; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:02:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:02:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311240202.hAO22ThQ049572@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au In-reply-to: <200311241243.11508.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> (message from paul van den bergen on Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:43:11 +1100) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> <200311241114.09882.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> <200311240030.hAO0ULhQ028174@fw.farid-hajji.net> <200311241243.11508.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:03:13 -0000 > if I operate a network, boxen1.example.org, boxen2.example.org, etc., as an > IPv4 address space and a second coincident network, boxen1.example6.org, > boxen2.example6.org, etc., as an IPv6 based address space, where does the > authority to allocate the IPv6-network based names reside? AFAIK, there is only one DNS system, which is designed to serve names for both IPv4 and IPv6. It is the client who asks either for A records (IPv4 resolution) or AAAA records (IPv6 resolution), from the SAME set of DNS servers. Let's assume that you want to operate *.example.org as IPv4 and *.example6.org as IPv6 networks. You would have two domains in the .org TLD: example.org -> NS ns1.example.org -> NS ns2.example.org example6.org -> NS ns1.example6.org -> NS ns2.example6.org It is important to realize that ns1 and ns2 must resolve to IPv4 addresses for both example.org and example6.org. Now you could populate the DNS maps of ns{1,2}.example6.org with AAAA records holding IPv6 addresses, and the DNS maps of ns{1,2}.example.org with A records, holding IPv4 addresses. Nothing prevents you from doing both on the same domain! example46.org -> NS ns1.example46.org NS ns2.example46.org ns{1,2}.example46.org could contain both A and AAAA records, like, say: hybrid A hybrid AAAA The host hybrid.example46.org would have an IPv4 and an IPv6 address (they don't need to overlap!). Now the clients' resolver library would generally ask for A records, if it should resolve hybrid.example46.org. It would therefore obtain an IPv4 address from ns{1,2}.example46.org for the host name hybrid.example46.org. A client could still ask for IPv6 addresses, e.g.: % host -t aaaa hybrid.example46.org (ask for IPv6 address) % host -t a hybrid.example46.org (ask for IPv4 address) % host hybrid.example46.org (same as host -t a ...) > the technical side of it is clear... someone somewhere needs to keep a track > of the names... You are responsible for keeping track of the names under *.example.org, *.example6.org, *.example46.org. There is no such thing as an IPv6[-only] domain name. If you asked about PTR records, this would be more interesting... [Hint: ip6.arpa.] ;-) > anyway, this is straying somewhat from the core subject matter of > this list... Well, yes... -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 18:03:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEC316A506 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0175843FD7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAO23sVR014851 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:03:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:03:54 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031124020354.GJ2146@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i Subject: Fwd: [bn@vastnet.co.uk: Re: Question] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org, bn@vastnet.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:03:56 -0000 ----- Forwarded message from VastNET ----- Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:47:14 -0000 From: VastNET To: Dan Nelson Subject: Re: Question X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD) Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read called at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 2627 in elfstab_build_psymtabs Deprecated bfd_read called at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 933 in fill_symbuf IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x00000074 initial pcb at physical address 0x00371000 panic messages: --- dmesg: kvm_read: invalid address (c0365a98) --- #0 0xc034d3e0 in sysctl___compat () (kgdb) where #0 0xc034d3e0 in sysctl___compat () #1 0xc0389600 in sysctl__kern_children () #2 0xc03104fc in __set_sysctl_set_sym_sysctl___vfs_nfs_nfsv3_commit_on_close () cannot read proc at 0 (kgdb) > In the last episode (Nov 20), VastNET said: > > Hello! > > > > Do you know what's the reason of it? My machine is rebooting few times a day. > > > > If answer is YES, what should I do? > > > > savecore: reboot after panic: page fault > > <118>savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304 > > <118>Nov 20 17:21:10 gateway savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0 > > xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304 > > <118>savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304 > > <118>Nov 20 17:21:10 gateway savecore: reboot after panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0 > > xc1818500 || mbcnt 2304 > > Since if looks like you have crashdumps already enabled, follow the instructions at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/advanced.html#KERNEL-PA NIC-TROUBLESHOOTING > , and let us see the stack trace that gdb prints. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 18:11:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821F216A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4151C43FDD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:11:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAO2AehQ050343; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:10:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:10:40 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200311240210.hAO2AehQ050343@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: "Cordula's Web" To: pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <200311240202.hAO22ThQ049572@fw.farid-hajji.net> (cpghost@cordula.ws) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.9-STABLE References: <200311241051.00411.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> <200311241114.09882.pvandenbergen@swin.edu.au> <200311240030.hAO0ULhQ028174@fw.farid-hajji.net> <200311240202.hAO22ThQ049572@fw.farid-hajji.net> Subject: Re: Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:11:22 -0000 > You are responsible for keeping track of the names > under *.example.org, *.example6.org, *.example46.org. > There is no such thing as an IPv6[-only] domain name. > > If you asked about PTR records, this would be more > interesting... [Hint: ip6.arpa.] ;-) The reference is: RFC 3596: DNS Extensions to Support IP Version 6 October 2003. http://www.rfc-editor.org/ -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 18:29:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8423316A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C799A43FD7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hAO2TYGJ017129; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (12-231-115-57.client.attbi.com [12.231.115.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hAO2TXxO017396; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20031124020006.GI2146@dan.emsphone.com> References: <8FF2C6A7-1DFB-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> <20031124020006.GI2146@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <089CEF13-1E26-11D8-B52A-000A95BBCCF8@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: paul beard Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:30 -0800 To: Dan Nelson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLA violation?: snmp renumbering stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:29:39 -0000 On Nov 23, 2003, at 6:00 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > I don't think snmp tables have any defined order. I don't even know if > the index for a particular resource is guaranteed to be stable across > filesystem dismount/remounts. Something like this should work: > My issue was that they shouldn't change once defined: otherwise, how can you reliably use something if it adopts different behavior with each new release/build? After all, we're not talking about Windows here . . . . ;-) It would be useful if / were always 1, for example. It looks like, with the inclusion of RAM and swap in the table, / might be 3. -- Paul Beard paulbeard [at] mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 19:02:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CC116A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from newhost.cpf.navy.mil (rnoc2.cpf.navy.mil [199.124.15.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6034043F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:02:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@newhost.cpf.navy.mil) Received: from newhost.cpf.navy.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hAO329A6041877; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:02:09 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from kuriyama@newhost.cpf.navy.mil) Received: (from kuriyama@localhost) by newhost.cpf.navy.mil (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id hAO329T5041876; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:02:09 -1000 (HST) From: Kent Kuriyama Message-Id: <200311240302.hAO329T5041876@newhost.cpf.navy.mil> To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:02:09 -1000 (HST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Kent Kuriyama Subject: Questions regarding use of 'gdb -k' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:02:13 -0000 I am having difficulty in using 'gdb -k' to track down a kernel panic. I have built a version of the kernel with the debugging symbols. After the crash I use the 'gdb -k' command but get the following output: ------------------ chinmon1# gdb -k /data1/src/sys/compile/ata/kernel.debug /var/crash/kernel.29 GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD) Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read called a t /data1/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 2627 in elfstab_build_psymtabs Deprecated bfd_read called at /data1/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../co ntrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 933 in fill_symbuf IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x00000000 initial pcb at physical address 0x0048cee0 cannot read proc at 0 (kgdb) where #0 0x0 in ?? () (kgdb) exit Undefined command: "exit". Try "help". (kgdb) chinmon1# ------------------ Can you tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks. Kent Kuriyama From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 19:03:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25D016A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C45A43FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:03:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) X-Sasl-enc: nInvmHbWAIv7Qc69W2g0/g 1069642986 Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (dialup-67.74.79.195.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.74.79.195]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F16E43E672; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:03:05 -0500 (EST) To: questions@freebsd.org, "Paulo Roberto" References: <20031123122103.74672.qmail@web14917.mail.yahoo.com> <44ad6mzo65.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:03:12 -0500 From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <44ad6mzo65.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.30 (Win32, build 3363) Subject: Re: booting freebsd and openbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:03:11 -0000 On 23 Nov 2003 17:59:46 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Paulo Roberto writes: > >> I got 4.9 installed on my machine and I need to be able to dual-boot >> freebsd and openbsd. The freebsd boot-loader recognizes (F2 BSD) but >> does not boot the openbsd partition. Do I have to set any extra >> parameter? > > Funny, I didn't think that should be a problem. > What partition type is OpenBSD creating? Another possibility: If you have FreeBSD and OpenBSD on separate disks, the FreeBSD bootloader must be installed on both drives. Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 19:11:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6615A16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A067743F85 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:11:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) X-Sasl-enc: 3wEGojhrFBIIFT6o4ljSFw 1069643462 Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (dialup-67.74.79.195.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.74.79.195]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B871643E749; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:11:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:11:07 -0500 To: jesse@wingnet.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, dhljr@yahoo.com References: <20031123142814.96294.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.30 (Win32, build 3363) Subject: Re: Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:11:07 -0000 On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:01:19 -0500, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > fbsd_user wrote: > >> Read the FBSD handbook. >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.ht > > Also, you might want to try kppp from the KDE project. It's a graphical > front end to Kernal PPP (pppd), and I find that it's much easier to use > than the CLI when I need to connect in a hurry on my laptop. > > I think it's probably a good idea to get user ppp (FreeBSD Handbook) > working before switching to kppp though. That way you'll be able to > debug easier. The best tutorial I've seen on this remains . 3 years ago as a newbie it was far easier for me to understand than the Handbook. One thing has changed in those 3 years: The user wanting to access the Net must be a member of the 'dialer' group. HTH, Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 19:12:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5A016A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CBB43FBD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFE62BD0F for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:12:48 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB52B511F9; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:42:46 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:42:46 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Kent Kuriyama Message-ID: <20031124031246.GW82843@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200311240302.hAO329T5041876@newhost.cpf.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311240302.hAO329T5041876@newhost.cpf.navy.mil> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions regarding use of 'gdb -k' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:12:51 -0000 --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 23 November 2003 at 17:02:09 -1000, Kent Kuriyama wrote: > I am having difficulty in using 'gdb -k' to track down a kernel panic. I > have built a version of the kernel with the debugging symbols. After > the crash I use the 'gdb -k' command but get the following output: > > ------------------ > chinmon1# gdb -k /data1/src/sys/compile/ata/kernel.debug /var/crash/kernel.29 > GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD) > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read called a > t /data1/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line > 2627 in elfstab_build_psymtabs > Deprecated bfd_read called at /data1/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../co > ntrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 933 in fill_symbuf > > IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x00000000 > initial pcb at physical address 0x0048cee0 > > cannot read proc at 0 > (kgdb) where > #0 0x0 in ?? () > (kgdb) exit > Undefined command: "exit". Try "help". > (kgdb) chinmon1# > ------------------ > > Can you tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks. Unfortunately, this looks like you have a corrupted dump. What you've done (with the exception of "exit") is correct. You might find it better to use serial debugging if this is repeatable. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wXcuIubykFB6QiMRAkNFAKCUw+vNGXhkmldkMiHKLtEozIv0mgCfanmY aLywfIVWTuCH0Ub9op8+Z6I= =Y7dr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 19:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049E616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1F843F85 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) X-Sasl-enc: MqBa8VXVrhNEHmHoVveOkQ 1069643655 Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (dialup-67.74.79.195.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.74.79.195]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5899943E760; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:14:15 -0500 (EST) To: "Craig Caughlin" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001c3b1fa$e3dd3010$0101a8c0@p4> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:14:21 -0500 From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000001c3b1fa$e3dd3010$0101a8c0@p4> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.30 (Win32, build 3363) Subject: Re: Boot manager clarification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:14:20 -0000 On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:49:21 -0800, Craig Caughlin wrote: > Hi folks, > I have 2 hard disks, each on their own channel. I have XOSL installed as > my > boot manager, in Drive 1, Partition 1. I have Windows 2000-Pro on Drive > 1, > Partition 2. I want to install FreeBSD 5.0 on Drive 2, but use XOSL to > load > it. > > Should I install FreeBSD using the "Standard" MBR option, or should I use > the "BootMgr" option? I *think* I would want to use the standard, > because it > seems like the BootMgr option would install in the MBR of Disk 1 and NOT > Disk 2, thereby goofing up XOSL (which is what I'm trying to avoid!). You think correctly. :) Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 19:28:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2502F16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.blarg.net (zoot.blarg.net [206.124.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417F243F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:28:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abowhill@blarg.net) Received: from kosmos.my.net (12-230-212-176.client.attbi.com [12.230.212.176]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0F033C82; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from kosmos.my.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kosmos.my.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANFU6j1033966; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kosmos@kosmos.my.net) Received: (from kosmos@localhost) by kosmos.my.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hANFU6bR033965; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kosmos) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:30:05 -0800 From: Allan Bowhill To: Jud Message-ID: <20031123153005.GB33848@kosmos.my.net> References: <20031123142814.96294.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-URL: http://www.blarg.net/~abowhill/ cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:28:40 -0000 On 0, Jud wrote: :The best tutorial I've seen on this remains . 3 years :ago as a newbie it was far easier for me to understand than the Handbook. :One thing has changed in those 3 years: The user wanting to access the Net :must be a member of the 'dialer' group. Actually, the group is "network" IMHO, the best resource for user ppp is still the manpage. Probably one of the best-written manpages there are. I just recently went through the ordeal of configuring modems for it, and I agree, the handbook doesn't have too much to offer there. -- Allan Bowhill abowhill@blarg.net Spend extra time on hobby. Get plenty of rolling papers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 19:55:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB77E16A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58AB343F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:55:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ecrist@adtechintegrated.com) Received: from c-66-41-18-160.mn.client2.attbi.com (HELO 192.168.1.106) (mnslinky@66.41.18.160 with plain) by smtp-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2003 02:08:34 -0000 From: Eric F Crist Organization: AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc To: jbogari@msn.com, Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:08:25 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311232008.25845.ecrist@adtechintegrated.com> Subject: Re: Novice needs advice building new kernel: UPG 4.7-RELEASE ---> 4.9-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:55:19 -0000 On Sunday 23 November 2003 01:52 pm, Jeff Bogari wrote: > Thanks in advance for the expert assistance: > > I'm *halfway* knowledgeable with my 4.7-RELEASE system. Built it on a > 486/66 (16MB RAM) about a year ago. It's time to upgrade to 4.9-RELEASE. > Here's what I've got so far: > > 1. Set the options in sysinstall to retrieve 4.9-RELEASE instead of > 4.7-RELEASE > 2. Used sysinstall to download the 4.9-RELEASE data via FTP > 3. Tried to rebuild the kernel with the "first" process as documented > 4. All steps proceed without error > 5. Kernel size after last step is 0KB, so reboot fails. Fallback to > kernel.old > 6. GENERIC kernel installed with 4.9-RELEASE is kinda iffy - had to > address several issues with 4.7 GENERIC to arrive at the kernel conf I am > happy with under 4.7 > 7. Ran through kernel conf again to confirm no new gotchas and all > required deviations for my setup were followed. Nothing looks fishy. > > Then: > 1. Tried "second" procedure as documented > 2. Failure at some point I don't recall due to physical memory or swap > size > > How/why is this kernel ending up 0-sized with no error message? > > I played with the kernel protection as documented in the troubleshooting > sections. Everything seems normal. Must I set kern_security level < 0 > before > I begin? > > Or should I lean on the "second" process to make it work? The problem > there being that I do not have a kernel that allows me to increase swap by > creating a swap file >:( > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Here's what works for me: I use cvsup to download the new sources and build from there. Download and install this by doing the following: #cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup #make install when done, create an text document called cvs-supfile in the /root directory: #cd /root #ee cvs-supfile ---document contents follow:--- *default host=cvsup3.freeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all #ports-all doc-all ---document contents above--- Now, you want to use that file to get the correct sources. #cvsup -g -L2 /root/cvs-supfile When this file is complete, change to the /usr/src directory and build all your source files. #cd /usr/src #make clean; make world This process on a 486 could take an hour or more. Just be aware of this. Once this is done, you need to recompile your kernel. Change to the kernel configuration directory. #cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf You may have edited this document or not, if not, just configure your GENERIC kernel, otherwise change GENERIC in this example for the correct file: #config GENERIC You will get a message about your build directory is ../../compile/GENERIC or what ever you substituted for GENERIC, and a message about not forgetting to make depend: #cd ../../compile/GENERIC #make; make depend; make install After this is done, reboot and you should be good to go! HTH -- Eric F Crist President AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 19:56:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C84E16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:56:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5C343FE9 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:56:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from rogers.com ([24.101.253.242]) by fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.comESMTP <20031124035630.JFYE389421.fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com> for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:56:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC1816F.8070809@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:56:31 -0500 From: Mike Jeays User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.101.253.242] using ID at Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:56:30 -0500 Subject: USB disks on FreeBSD 4.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:56:35 -0000 I have a 4.7 system, and have trouble with an Apacer Flash Memory 64 MB disk. I can read and write the FAT system on it if it is plugged in at boot time, but I cannot remount it if I unmount it, unplug it, and then plug it in again. Is this a known problem in 4.7 that is fixed in later versions, and are there any commands that will do a successful reset? Please cc me as I am not subscribed; the volume on the list is quite high these days. Dmesg output is as follows: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: < USB DISK 2.08> Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 650KB/s transfers da0: 62MB (128000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 62C) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(6)/WRITE(6) not supported, increasing minimum_cmd_size to 10. ------ umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 20:19:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552A716A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4285F43FBD for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:19:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) X-Sasl-enc: WdAaxkfmqYKfxcQCqezqKg 1069647573 Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (dialup-67.74.79.195.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.74.79.195]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCC543E909; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:19:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:19:33 -0500 To: "Allan Bowhill" References: <20031123142814.96294.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> <20031123153005.GB33848@kosmos.my.net> From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20031123153005.GB33848@kosmos.my.net> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.30 (Win32, build 3363) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:19:38 -0000 On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:30:05 -0800, Allan Bowhill wrote: > On 0, Jud wrote: > :The best tutorial I've seen on this remains :http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/06/14/FreeBSD_Basics.html>. 3 > years > :ago as a newbie it was far easier for me to understand than the > Handbook. > :One thing has changed in those 3 years: The user wanting to access the > Net > :must be a member of the 'dialer' group. > > Actually, the group is "network" The article does note that membership in the 'network' group is necessary. But membership in the 'dialer' group is *also* necessary (at least in 5.x - I assume from your message that it may not be necessary in 4.x), and it wasn't AFAIK at the time the article was published. (Or maybe that was because I was using 4.x at the time? Oh well, maybe someone can enlighten me here....) > IMHO, the best resource for user ppp is still the manpage. Probably > one of the best-written manpages there are. I had a rough time with the man page myself. The tutorial, instead of providing what may be an overwhelming number of possible options to a newbie, describes a very simple step-by-step procedure. Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 20:26:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E36016A4CE; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from newhost.cpf.navy.mil (rnoc2.cpf.navy.mil [199.124.15.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFEF43FE9; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@newhost.cpf.navy.mil) Received: from newhost.cpf.navy.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hAO4QcA6041987; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:26:38 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from kuriyama@newhost.cpf.navy.mil) Received: (from kuriyama@localhost) by newhost.cpf.navy.mil (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id hAO4QcU5041986; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:26:38 -1000 (HST) From: Kent Kuriyama Message-Id: <200311240426.hAO4QcU5041986@newhost.cpf.navy.mil> To: grog@FreeBSD.org (Greg 'groggy' Lehey), questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:26:38 -1000 (HST) In-Reply-To: <20031124031246.GW82843@wantadilla.lemis.com> from "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" at Nov 24, 2003 01:42:46 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Questions regarding use of 'gdb -k' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:26:40 -0000 Greg, Thanks. Regarding the suspected corrupt dump file. In the syslog I can see the dump file being created (actually 'vmcore') and there are no error messages. Are you saying that the corruption occurs during the writing of the file or is the data resident in memory corrupt? I suspect that something is wrong with the hardware on this box. We moved the hard drive from one motherboard to another but the problem remains. This leaves the hard drive as suspect but there are no syslog messages to indicate a drive problem. The system is running 4.8 p13. Thanks. Kent > > > --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Sunday, 23 November 2003 at 17:02:09 -1000, Kent Kuriyama wrote: > > I am having difficulty in using 'gdb -k' to track down a kernel panic. I > > have built a version of the kernel with the debugging symbols. After > > the crash I use the 'gdb -k' command but get the following output: > > > > ------------------ > > chinmon1# gdb -k /data1/src/sys/compile/ata/kernel.debug /var/crash/kernel.29 > > GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD) > > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read called a > > t /data1/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line > > 2627 in elfstab_build_psymtabs > > Deprecated bfd_read called at /data1/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../co > > ntrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 933 in fill_symbuf > > > > IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x00000000 > > initial pcb at physical address 0x0048cee0 > > > > cannot read proc at 0 > > (kgdb) where > > #0 0x0 in ?? () > > (kgdb) exit > > Undefined command: "exit". Try "help". > > (kgdb) chinmon1# > > ------------------ > > > > Can you tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks. > > Unfortunately, this looks like you have a corrupted dump. What you've > done (with the exception of "exit") is correct. You might find it > better to use serial debugging if this is repeatable. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQE/wXcuIubykFB6QiMRAkNFAKCUw+vNGXhkmldkMiHKLtEozIv0mgCfanmY > aLywfIVWTuCH0Ub9op8+Z6I= > =Y7dr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ-- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 20:28:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DAC16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10643FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:28:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmvg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr4so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.107])2003))freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:23:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml4so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.148]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOU00E6R9JGV8@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:23:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from shaw.ca (h68-146-233-172.cg.shawcable.net [68.146.233.172]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOU0031W9JFCC@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:23:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:23:42 -0700 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN To: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Message-id: <3FC179BE.1010001@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) Subject: dns question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:28:22 -0000 have dns working perfectly on one system copied the files over to another system made the necessary domain changes but when bind is invoked i cannot ping remote hosts #ping google.ca ping: cannot resolve google.ca: No address associated with name when i do a nslook up i get this it does not matter if the lookup is internal or external have been stumped for a week now can someone please help. #nslookup v21001 Server: v21.highcoup.ca Address: 142.59.20.186 Name: v21001 Served by: - L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET - H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 21:07:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D3616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.20.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E651343F3F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au) Received: from elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au (elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.18.41])hAO57V22007391; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:07:31 +1100 (EST) From: JacobRhoden Organization: University of Melbourne To: Mike Jeays , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:07:30 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <3FC1816F.8070809@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <3FC1816F.8070809@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311241607.30643.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: USB disks on FreeBSD 4.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:07:36 -0000 On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:56 pm, Mike Jeays wrote: > I have a 4.7 system, and have trouble with an Apacer Flash Memory > 64 MB disk. I can read and write the FAT system on it if it is > plugged in at boot time, but I cannot remount it if I unmount > it, unplug it, and then plug it in again. > > Is this a known problem in 4.7 that is fixed in later versions, and > are there any commands that will do a successful reset? > > Please cc me as I am not subscribed; the volume on the list is > quite high these days. I think you need to use camcontrol to stop/eject the device before unpluging it. "man camcontrol" Jacob Rhoden Phone: +61 3 8344 4478 ITS Division Email: jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au Melbourne University Mobile: +61 403 788 386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 21:38:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F02616A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6806743FE9 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:38:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ecrist@adtechintegrated.com) Received: from c-66-41-18-160.mn.client2.attbi.com (HELO 192.168.1.106) (mnslinky@66.41.18.160 with plain) by smtp-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2003 04:38:14 -0000 From: Eric F Crist Organization: AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc To: Patrick Burnett , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:25 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1069560047.10597.18.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1069560047.10597.18.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311222236.26654.ecrist@adtechintegrated.com> Subject: Re: make vs. pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:38:15 -0000 On Saturday 22 November 2003 10:00 pm, Patrick Burnett wrote: > Hi all, > > Not that I expect to be swayed one way or the other here, but... > > I'm curious to see what other users think of using either the 'make' > commands or 'pkg_add' for compiling and installing software. I'm > admittedly a bit of a newbie, and I've tried it both ways, after > CVSup-ing the source and ports of course. In most cases 'pkg_add' seems > to work better, but the problem solver in me wants to see 'make all > install clean' and its brethren work at least once. Am I to understand > that 'make' and its accompanying command options will download source, > dependencies, needed libs, et al. while compiling, building, and > installing just like 'pkg_add' does? I'm probably doing something wrong > such that 'make' isn't playing nice, but I'd still appreciate some > further insight from more experienced users. > > TIA, > Pat > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Pat, I've always been one to use the make install method. It's always worked for me, including downloading most sources and dependencies. Sometimes, after upgrading from 4.9 to 5.0, for example, I had to install certain things manually, from ports, such as GTK+ and gettext. HTH -- Eric F Crist President AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 21:53:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0624C16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao08.cox.net (lakemtao08.cox.net [68.1.17.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D2943F93 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from elarsen2@cox.net) Received: from [192.168.2.100] ([68.226.58.7]) by lakemtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031124055255.NXPL5790.lakemtao08.cox.net@[192.168.2.100]> for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:52:55 -0500 From: Earl Larsen To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:52:49 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311232352.49136.elarsen2@cox.net> Subject: config(8), kernel & coda_fbsd.c X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: elarsen2@cox.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:53:00 -0000 When I try to build my personel kernel I get the fallowing: "../../conf/files: coda/coda_fbsd.c must be optional, mandatory or standard" ( I do not know whare to go to check this) "Your version of config(8) is out of sync with your kernel source." I got my kernel source form GENERIC after I used cvsup. So yould I need to build world to make it insync? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 22:03:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DA316A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-234.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9870743FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6404C66D35; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:03:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:03:28 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Earl Larsen Message-ID: <20031124060328.GA10352@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200311232352.49136.elarsen2@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311232352.49136.elarsen2@cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: config(8), kernel & coda_fbsd.c X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:03:32 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 11:52:49PM -0600, Earl Larsen wrote: > When I try to build my personel kernel I get the fallowing: >=20 > "../../conf/files: coda/coda_fbsd.c must be optional, mandatory or stand= ard" > ( I do not know whare to go to check this) > "Your version of config(8) is out of sync with your kernel source." >=20 > I got my kernel source form GENERIC after I used cvsup. So yould I need t= o=20 > build world to make it insync? Please read the instructions in the handbook for upgrading your system. Kris --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wZ8vWry0BWjoQKURAiKCAKD4hlWI3XsSPiF4Es1pYBD9hUbbJwCgq8kN DBHDqQdGpvqSEEzhPOJzX5k= =lQT8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 22:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF5C16A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.tele-kom.ru (mx.tele-kom.ru [213.80.148.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9498F43FD7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:04:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doublef@tele-kom.ru) Received: (qmail 57304 invoked by uid 555); 24 Nov 2003 09:04:00 +0300 Received: from hal.localdomain (213.80.149.221) by t-k.ru with TeleMail/2 id 1069653839-57282 for freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl; Mon, 24 Nov 09:03:59 2003 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:02:29 +0300 From: Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko To: Alex de Kruijff Message-Id: <20031124090229.63963b19.doublef@tele-kom.ru> In-Reply-To: <20031124011139.GA60027@dds.nl> References: <3B75ECFD-1DE6-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> <20031123215725.GC557@dds.nl> <98017B2C-1E17-11D8-A141-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net> <20031124011139.GA60027@dds.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__24_Nov_2003_09_02_29_+0300_mfiw+0I+BfNMh0kR" cc: Will Prater cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: daemon monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:04:05 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__24_Nov_2003_09_02_29_+0300_mfiw+0I+BfNMh0kR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:11:39 +0100 Alex de Kruijff probably wrote: > Dear Will, > > I've moved you text to the buttom so its more readable for other. > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 04:46:09PM -0800, Will Prater wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2003, at 1:57 PM, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > >On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 10:52:48AM -0800, Will Prater wrote: > > >>List, > > >> > > >>What are most of you using to monitor the running daemons? I have been > > >>loooking into DJB daemontools which seems appropriate, but are there > > >>any others that you reccomend? > > >> > > >>If DJB's daemontools is the one, could I get some more examples? I am > > >>primarily trying to keep my mail system online: postfix, cyrus, > > >>saslauthd, mysql, and spamassassin. > > > > > >I would advise Nagios. > > > > Sorry, I mispoke. I will be using Nagios to monitor, but I need to make > > sure they will restart if there is an error. Will nagios do this as > > well? > > > I don't *think* so. > > You could write a sh script (or any other) that does this. It could > contain this line: > result=px aux | grep SomeDaemon | wc -l > > If the result is zero than SomeDaemon is not running. You'd be better off using "ps auxc" here (that is, print only argv[0]): $ ps aux|grep aux df 642 0,0 0,4 648 444 p1 R+ 8:49 0:00,00 grep aux (sh) df 641 0,0 0,3 516 392 p1 R+ 8:49 0:00,00 ps aux $ ps auxc|grep auxc $ And even a better solution would be to pipe the ps output to a [your favorite scripting language] script to take only the name part of the output (to avoid clash with usernames/etc.). > > > -- > Alex > > Articles based on solutions that I use: > http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- DoubleF There is a Massachusetts law requiring all dogs to have their hind legs tied during the month of April. --Signature=_Mon__24_Nov_2003_09_02_29_+0300_mfiw+0I+BfNMh0kR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/wZ8Awo7hT/9lVdwRAlTmAJ9CET4VeM8glKLvaKflanLaSPFEAACeOeEZ 36TdXJ0/x5ke7yPZMxOCSj0= =5/Av -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__24_Nov_2003_09_02_29_+0300_mfiw+0I+BfNMh0kR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 22:51:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E395716A4CE for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hornet.velocet.net (hornet.velocet.net [216.138.223.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42B943F75 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:51:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willyyam@sillyrabbi.dyndns.org) Received: from sillyrabbi.dyndns.org (H241.C230.tor.velocet.net [216.138.230.241]) by hornet.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EE331E737 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from willyyam by sillyrabbi.dyndns.org with local (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1AOAZQ-000AXA-16 for freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:51:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:51:39 -0500 From: William O'Higgins To: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031124065139.GA95655@sillyrabbi.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: William O'Higgins Subject: wireless networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:51:08 -0000 After much effort I found a wireless PCMCIA card that is supported by FreeBSD. Now I have to get connected to a wireless network, and I need some help. I have read man wi, and the Handbook, but I'm still missing something. When I stick in the card in it is recognized and here is the output of ifconfig: lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 faith0: flags=8002 mtu 1500 wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.100.24 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255 inet6 fe80::206:25ff:fe2a:4197%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 ether 00:06:25:2a:41:97 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/2Mbps) status: no carrier ssid "" 1:"" stationname "FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node" channel 0 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 I enter the following to connect with the unencrypted network with the SSID "kieran", which is not broadcasting its SSID: sudo ifconfig wi0 ssid kieran I still cannot ping either by ip or dns. Here is the output of ifconfig: lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 faith0: flags=8002 mtu 1500 wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.100.24 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255 inet6 fe80::206:25ff:fe2a:4197%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 ether 00:06:25:2a:41:97 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/2Mbps) status: associated ssid kieran 1:kieran stationname "FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node" channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 As near as I can tell, I don't know enough about networking FreeBSD, and it is that ignorance that is the problem. Any suggestions? I am including the output of dmesg, in case that's useful. -- yours, William Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 17:51:09 GMT 2003 root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Intel Pentium III (498.27-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 201129984 (196416K bytes) config> en pcic1 config> po pcic1 0x3e2 config> ir pcic1 0 config> iom pcic1 0xd4000 config> f pcic1 0 config> en sn0 config> po sn0 0x300 config> ir sn0 10 config> f sn0 0 config> q avail memory = 190193664 (185736K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc053f000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc053f09c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk pcibios: No call entry point npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0x40000000-0x43ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 pcic0: mem 0x50103000-0x50103fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 pcic0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] pccard0: on pcic0 pcic1: mem 0x50102000-0x50102fff irq 11 at device 2.1 on pci0 pcic1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] pccard1: on pcic1 pci0: (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0449) at 3.0 irq 11 pci0: (vendor=0x1013, dev=0x6003) at 6.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfcf0-0xfcff at device 7.1 on pci0ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x4000-0x401f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip0: port 0xefa0-0xefaf at device 7.3 on pci0 orm0: