From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 22 11:53:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF32537B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org [64.239.180.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5671843E4A for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:53:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0MJqs197959; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org) Message-Id: <200301221952.h0MJqs197959@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Christopher Schulte Cc: Terry Lambert , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Google (was: Re: GCC as a selling point for FreeBSD? (Not!)) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:52:49 -0800 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christopher Schulte writes: > At 10:39 PM 1/21/2003 -0800, Dave Hayes wrote: >> There is no objective truth that you can prove exists. All truth is >> subjective, at least as the human mind understands it. >> >> At the very least, you deciding to be on whichever side of the line >> you see fit is a great display of subjectivity. ;) > Do not make this some convoluted and meaningless debate on the > definition of truth. You mean you didn't see that it already was such a debate? > http://www.google.com/technology/index.html > Look under Integrity. > Google does not take money for placement in search results. Sure, I agree they say this on their website. This may even be true. You repeating this does not make it true. > This is, to my satisfaction and the satisfaction that any reasonable > person would accept for general daily use, a truth. For some arbitrary definition of "reasonable", of course. I note also that you are implying that the acceptance of a "truth" is somehow connected to one's reasonability. Is that intellectually honest? > You might want to check out sci.philosophy.tech for future > enlightenment? Unfortunately for this sentiment, my enlightenment does not come from any sort of consensual reality. ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< Because you grasp labels and slogans, you are hindered by those labels and slogans, both those used in ordinary life and those considered sacred. Thus they obstruct your perception of objective truth, and you cannot understand clearly. -Zen Master Linji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message