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Date:      Sun, 19 Jun 2016 20:16:54 +0300
From:      Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Hajimu UMEMOTO <ume@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r302016 - in head: share/timedef tools/tools/locale/tools
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From: Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>
To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org,
 src-committers@freebsd.org, Hajimu UMEMOTO <ume@FreeBSD.org>
Message-ID: <73ce250f-71f6-7bde-9340-e6b6bf7ce749@freebsd.org>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r302016 - in head: share/timedef
 tools/tools/locale/tools
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On 19.06.2016 20:05, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 07:47:27PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
>> On 19.06.2016 18:49, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 04:52:34PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 07:57:49AM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
>>>>> On 19.06.2016 6:44, Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>   - Prefer to use %d over %e where the day of the month should be =
zero
>>>>>>     filled.
>>>>>>   - Since %e means the day of the month as well, regard %e as same=
 as %d
>>>>>>     in md_order.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense doubled formats in sr_*_RS locales and nonsense md_order t=
here too.
>>>>
>>>> Crap I'll dig into it, thanks for spotting it.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Bapt
>>>
>>> Should be fixed by:
>>> https://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/locale-triple-components.diff
>>>
>>> The perl script generating the locales was badly handling locales wit=
h 3
>>> components, fixed now.
>>>
>>> Sorry about that
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bapt
>>>
>>
>> sr locales are badly named before anything else, proper format is
>> language[_COUNTRY][.encoding][@variant]
>> I.e.
>> sr_RS.UTF-8@Latn
>> sr_RS.ISO8859-2@Latn
>> sr_RS.ISO8859-t@Cyrl
>=20
> According to what?
>>
>> I don't know, if out utilities (f.e. locale(1)) can handle @variant su=
ffix.
>>
> Our syntax is the syntax for the variants that has been the widly adopt=
ed:
> Microsoft, ICU, java, python's babel internationalisation thing,
> cldr (of course), CPAN components (Datime::Locales for example)
>=20
> This is respecting RFC 3066 with the little difference that we use '_' =
instead
> of '-'
>=20
> Best regards,
> Bapt
>=20

According to POSIX, but I can't find the reference right now, it is
related to XPG3 or XPG4. It was already many years.
First reference from Google
http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_60_0/libs/locale/doc/html/locale_gen.html=

Next from Gentoo:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/Guide
Microsoft, Linux and GNU iconv understand @-syntax




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