From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed May 23 17:19:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mailtmp4.registeredsite.com (mailtmp4.registeredsite.com [216.247.127.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBBC37B42C for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 17:19:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech_info@threespace.com) Received: from mail3.registeredsite.com (mail3.registeredsite.com [64.224.9.12]) by mailtmp4.registeredsite.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4O0I2k07270 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 20:18:03 -0400 Received: from mail.threespace.com ([216.247.134.44]) by mail3.registeredsite.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4O0I7c25916 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 20:18:07 -0400 Received: from CX1063714-B.threespace.com [216.247.134.44] by mail.threespace.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.05) id A33B1CC3012A; Wed, 23 May 2001 20:18:03 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010523201422.017b5868@mail.threespace.com> X-Sender: tech_info@mail.threespace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:17:55 -0400 To: FreeBSD Advocacy From: Technical Information Subject: Re: [dn-core] Re: Perens' "Free Software Leaders Stand Together" In-Reply-To: <20010523183233.A15682@widomaker.com> References: <000001c0e028$20147860$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <20010519092859.F7708@wantadilla.lemis.com> <000001c0e028$20147860$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure I see the difference. You have to figure that if he thinks Mach is crap, and MacOS X is derived from Mach, then he thinks that MacOS X is crap. It's like saying "He didn't call Pavarotti stupid. He said Italians are stupid." Let's not ignore the context of the quotation. Besides, I don't think anyone is faulting Mr. Torvalds for having his opinion. But his public handling of it is still pretty poor given his status and the weight his comments carry. --Chip Morton At 06:32 PM 5/23/2001, Shannon wrote: >He did not call MacOS X crap. He said Mach was crap: > > "Frankly, I think it's a piece of crap," Torvalds says of > Mach, the microkernel on which Apple's new operating system > is based. "It contains all the design mistakes you can make, > and manages to even make up a few of its own." > >I've read kernel list messages were Linus and other kernel hackers >talked about how much BSD or other OS did something better, and what >they needed to do to fix that problem. That he (Linus) doesn't like Mach >is nothing new. I think I've even heard a few BSD people criticize Mach >over the years. > >-- >shannon@widomaker.com _________________________________________________ >______________________/ > "And in billows of might swell the Saxons before her,-- Unite, oh > unite! Or the billows burst o'er her!" -- Downfall of the Gael > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message