From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon May 27 14:08:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA12286 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12204 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id VAA02539; Mon, 27 May 1996 21:45:22 +0100 (BST) To: Sean Doran cc: dennis@etinc.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: The view from here (was Re: ISDN Compression Load on CPU) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 27 May 1996 00:20:34 -0800." <96May27.002042pdt.119171-29766+24@cesium.clock.org> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:45:21 +0100 Message-ID: <2537.833229921@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Doran wrote in message ID <96May27.002042pdt.119171-29766+24@cesium.clock.org>: > Actually, I only mention this because the largest dialup > ISP in the U.K. (and quite likely all of Europe) use Sun > SPARCs running NetBSD as routers, and in the NetBSD world > make much of this whenever the word Cisco is mentioned. > I wonder if the irony of you attacking their position as > ridiculous is lost on you if you haven't seen any of the > Demon folks discussing *NIX boxes vs. dedicated routers. Since you are talking about Demon Internet, I think that unless they've changed router policy lately, that their core routers are PC's, not SPARCS (by core I mean the major decision makers, not the border routers or other ``dumb'' internal routers that use default routing). They used to use SPARC's for dial-in terminal servers, but I think most of them are now retired from that duty to be replaced with dedicated dial in hardware. (Unfortunately, you are right about one thing .. they do use NetBSD) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info