Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 10:23:53 +0300 From: Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com> To: "bsd-lists@bsdforge.com" <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com> Cc: freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Why is the console a graphic/bitmapped console, and not text/character by default Message-ID: <6BDCC642-4CE1-4F61-988B-EE81B311732B@me.com> In-Reply-To: <f8da7bb208de9c608f4a74856f72f4ab@udns.ultimatedns.net> References: <f8da7bb208de9c608f4a74856f72f4ab@udns.ultimatedns.net>
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> On 12. Apr 2020, at 08:34, Chris <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com> wrote: >=20 > On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:04:43 +0300 Toomas Soome tsoome@me.com = <mailto:tsoome@me.com> said >=20 >> You have UEFI setup? With UEFI, there is no text mode. >> If mouse copy/paste is working is not a property of screen mode but = it if the >> console driver does implement it or not. >> Sent from my iPhone >> > On 12. Apr 2020, at 07:41, Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> wrote: >> > > =EF=BB=BFSorry for the ling title. But wasn't sure how make my >> > question more concise. >> > Why did we begin making an initial console "graphics mode" >> > by default. My understanding has always been that (Free)BSD >> > has been a "Server by default", and a Desktop after an initial >> > install if that's one chosen target. >> > It's near impossible to perform initial configuration >> > in graphics mode, using a mouse to cut/copy/paste does *not* >> > work as intended. Which requires one to make the necessary >> > changes "breaking to the new system" after install completes >> > to change initiation to test-mode before bouncing the box. >> > While this "works" for long-time users. It's an *extra*, and >> > seemingly *unnecessary* step. It is also likely to behoove >> > first-time/new users -- except those already targeting a >> > Desktop. >> > > Thanks for any insight into this! :) >> > > --Chris >> > >=20 > With (U)EFI firmware, you're in graphics until the kernel takes over. > Where you can switch/change/obtain text/character mode. >=20 > I'm not we're talking about the same thing here. >=20 UEFI systems *may* provide VGA bios for gfx, but thats not granted, and = if not you have no =E2=80=9Ctext=E2=80=9D mde at all. In virtual = environment it is possible you do not get even framebuffer mapped = memory. rgds, toomas=
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