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Date:      Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:39:12 +0100
From:      krad <>
To:        Peter Giessel <>
Cc:        "" <>
Subject:   Re: deciding UFS vs ZFS
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ah you meant i386 compatible not actual i386. My point still stands though.
Unless you are scaling out there isnt much difference in costs in actual
terms as i got an HP micro server on discount for =C2=A3120 with ram, and i=
ts a
far more capable machine than a p4. Yes it more expensive, but I would like
to see the power requirements for that p4 vs the hp, as im pretty certain
the running costs would eat up the margin fairly convincingly over a year
or so. Even if it doesnt we are only talking about =C2=A350-60 difference, =
is well worth all the other benefits you get.

On 29 July 2014 09:48, Peter Giessel <> wrote:

> On 2014, Jul 29, at 0:23, krad <> wrote:
> > you are correct, however if you can afford to put big drives like that
> one
> > a system you can afford to match up a far more modern cpu with the driv=
> > with a decent amount of ram. Something like the hp microserver is littl=
> > more than =C2=A3100 and is more than capable of handling zfs. 5-6 year =
old 2nd
> > had kit is as well and it probably cheaper. Also your going to have to
> get
> > pretty creative to get a modern sata/sas drive to work in an
> ((e)*isa|mca)
> > based board, which will nullify any cost saving of using decades old
> > hardware.
> That is simply not true.
> At our government surplus store, I can get Pentium 4 computers with 2 GB
> of RAM for $25.  They have SATA ports on the motherboard, so (2) 3TB SATA
> Seagate ST3000DM001 are $99.99 each on Amazon right now with free shippin=
>  For under $250, I can put together redundant server with 3TB RAID 1
> storage.
> Assuming you mean ProLiant 712317-001 Ultra Micro Tower Server, those cos=
> around $400 with 2GB of RAM.  1GB/TB of RAM to storage, it will need more
> RAM according to:
> "A general rule of thumb is 1GB of RAM for every 1TB of storage.=E2=80=9D

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