From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 13 15:00:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D33B1EE9 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467G9Z3r41z3xHl for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFED44EAA9 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:00:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Firefox or what? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <60D6EFE4-D594-4E61-8B57-D4E4876EAC83@gmail.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <5ec1f284-b8e7-0e78-06c5-18327897d220@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:00:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <60D6EFE4-D594-4E61-8B57-D4E4876EAC83@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 467G9Z3r41z3xHl X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.901,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.933,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.13)[-0.129,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:00:35 -0000 On 2019-08-13 09:44, Eric wrote: > Mine will freeze and crash regularly as well. It was much worse at one time but I went to the configuration folder and moved it to a different name letting firefox set itself up again like it was first use. I forget where the folder was whether it was in .config or not. It helped a lot but didnt completely solve the problem. I'm using 11.2/amd64 so I'm hoping things are better in 12 when I take the leap. > Here is my observation based on using Firefox on FreeBSD workstation with 8 GB of RAM. Firefox is buggy, and bloated, sometimes has tiny memory leaks (very slow though). However, it doesn't "crash" as often as some people seem to say. I pretty much all the time have 20 instances (separate windows) with on average 5 tabs each. And I have those without Firefox crashing for several Months. These my observations are relevant to Firefox during last about 3 years. I would prefer nicer, cleaner and [much] slimmer web browser similar to what Firefox was some 9-12 years ago. That is, before the guy I knew as student here came to Mozilla foundation as production director, and they started rushing "releases" one after another adding "features", and not caring to debug code well before releasing it. I still couldn't find worthy replacement for Firefox. And I looked, trust me on that. Just my $0.02 Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++