From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 9 19:40:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF67C16A41F; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 19:40:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B3A43D46; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 19:40:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j89JdXmJ047656; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:39:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20050909.133933.74701845.imp@bsdimp.com> To: pm940@yahoo.com From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20050909170944.77242.qmail@web54002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050909170944.77242.qmail@web54002.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Will USB serial ever be fixed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:40:54 -0000 > Be honest. Be brutal. I need to know where FreeBSD > stands on this. Personal opinion: You overstate the probelems, and have a bad attitude. More details: I use umodem + ucom all the time for connecting to the internet on my laptop. I've had exactly 0 problems doing this for the past 4 years. I run current every day on this laptop, and do substantial development. If the problems were as dire as you suggest, I'd be unable to do this at all. There may be other problems in the serial subsystem intersected with usb, however I think you vastly overstate your case. Even to the point that it will be hard for you to effect change because people don't take you seriously. Warner