From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 10:10:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D926A37C1DE; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31400; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:49:47 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:49:47 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: committers@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: [nik@freebsd.org: Web based shared calendar...] Message-ID: <20000322164946.A30719@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do guys, [ Sent to -committers, -doc, and hostmaster@freebsd.org, as I need input from all of you ] I'm sending this again, and including -doc this time, as the response was somewhat underwhelming last time. Then again, we were pushing out a release. If there are no objections then I'll talk to Jay about getting a license for the software. I think this'll probably need to sit on a virtual host somewhere (calendar.freebsd.org?) as it really falls some way out of the traditional web site build and mirroring infrastructure. N ----- Forwarded message from Nik Clayton ----- Delivered-To: nik@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-committers@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:56:03 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: cvs-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Web based shared calendar... Organization: FreeBSD Project Hi guys, Y'know what we need? We need a web based calendar. We can use it to highlight planned release dates, conferences and exhibitions, user group meetings, committers birthdays, that sort of thing. If you go to http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/calendar/cgi-bin/calweb.cgi You'll see a candidate I'm proposing we use. First things first. The source code for this program is *not* freely available. It's a commercial application, and what's running at that URL is a demo version. That's why there are adverts top and bottom. But, please keep reading. Over the past couple of weeks I've been talking to Jay Rush, who runs Greathill Software, the author of the calendar application. He seems like a good guy, and, as most of us are, he's trying to make some money for his work. I first got in touch because some clients of my consulting business were looking for a web based calendar. The current state of the art in terms of open source calendaring systems seems to be rather poor, and the alternative are either very heavily priced, or rely too heavily on Java, or Javascript. We started talking about the possiblity of opening up the source code, and adapting his business model. At the moment, he's not yet convinced that releasing the source code to his company's main product would be a smart thing to do. I can't say I blame him -- he's not a big player as Netscape were, nor does he have lots of venture capital behind him. So, for the time being, the app source stays closed. However, and as a possible prelimenary to eventually releasing the source, he'd like to co-operate more with the Open Source community. There are a couple of ways I suggested that he do this. One (which will happen soon) is he'll be setting up a "calendar repository", for want of a better word. If you're a user group, or a small software project, or a small, non-profit organisation, and you want a web based calendar, they'll host it for you on their servers, for free, and with a little bit of advertising. The other thing I pointed out to him is that there are a number of larger projects and/or organisations out there that might be interested in using a web based calendar. Delving deep in to my personal experience, I suggested FreeBSD and Slashdot as possible candidates. He's obviously quite excited by this, and is quite keen to offer out free licenses for the software for this sort of thing. We get a free, good quality, web based calendar that we can customise the look and feel of, he gets publicity through the larger number of people that will be looking at the calendars, some of whom might actually click on the "Calendar software provided by Greathill Corporation" link at the bottom of each calendar. Everybody wins (in theory). So, with that in mind, please take the time to look at the URL above. Please don't heavily publicise it though -- I'm trying to keep this internal to FreeBSD and Slashdot for the time being, as I've only got a certain amount of time to deal with questions and suggestions. Keep in mind that the look and feel of the calendar can be heavily customised in the licensed version, and it won't have the honking big adverts on it. To play around with adding or changing events, you need to login (bottom right of the screen). For the time being, the username and password combination is demo/demo. That lets you do pretty much anything (including deleting events that other people have added), please play nicely. This will be a bugger to mirror, and I don't know how it will handle things like i18n and l10n. The latter issue we can resolve, mirroring may be more tricky. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. 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