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Date:      Wed, 06 Jan 2016 15:04:36 -0500
From:      "Michael B. Eichorn" <ike@michaeleichorn.com>
To:        Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com>,  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: TERM=xterm lacking smcup and rmcup (alternate screen)
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On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 19:38 +0100, Sebastian Gniazdowski wrote:
> Hello
> I want to criticize an approach taken in FreeBSD regarding the
> alternate screen. It's not available in newcons. One person wrote
> that's because Tekken doesn't have such feature, and newcons
> implements Tekken.
>=20
> That's maybe fine. However, newcons doesn't have it's own termcap. It
> uses TERM=3Dxterm, which normally has rmcup and smcup. Some smart
> person
> thus decided to remove those codes from TERM=3Dxterm. You see what this
> leads to? No alternate screen on X11.
>=20
> Why doesn't newcon create it's own termcap entry? Why nobody cares
> about trashed xterm screens when fullscreen applications are exiting.
> In my software I've wrote a special function to handle FreeBSD
> nuance:
>=20
> https://github.com/psprint/zsh-cmd-architect/blob/master/zca#L65-L81
>=20
> But this should be fixed, really. Newcons could ignore rmcup and
> smcup. Why remove them from TERM=3Dxterm, let newcons just ignore it.
> FreeBSD could then still use TERM=3Dxterm for its virtual terminal.
>=20
> Best regards,
> Sebastian Gniazdowski

Hi,

Technical discussions like this are somewhat off-topic for this list.
FreeBSD-questions is for 'user questions' and as such is primarily
populated by users not developers. You probably want freebsd-hackers
which is for 'Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD'.

Regards,
Ike
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