Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:21:11 -0700 From: Tyler Gee <geekout@gmail.com> To: ghost@kzsu.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to shut down this list? Message-ID: <6e01203b04122313217a55640c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <a9ef272704122312182c016fba@mail.gmail.com> References: <20041223063731.GW53357@wantadilla.lemis.com> <41CB1C0C.70804@daleco.biz> <a9ef272704122312182c016fba@mail.gmail.com>
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For examply, Sally's post which everyone just saw:
Hi,
I've been subscribing to this list for over 3 years. I initially subscribed
to the -questions list also, but I couldn't handle the volume, and also
couldn't interpret the language used there. I need to learn in a language
that I know, or at least get an interpreter for the manpage-ese that's used
in replies to questions on that list.
I ask a simple question, how do I automate ports update? I get "read the
manpages" or quoting from the manpages which is written in a language
foreign to me, but masquerades as English. Where can I get at least a good,
simple glossary for the terms used in the manpages and on the questions
list?
I asked questions here, and got yelled at, at great length. I have not
posted to this list for over a year because of that.
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:18:01 -0800, Gianluca <gianluca@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> as a freebsd newbie myself, I'm a little ambivalent about the list and
> the overall attitude towards really FAQ-type questions. no matter how
> many helpful (and knowledgeable) people might monitor this list and
> answer every question, RTFM (not in such a rude way) is a necessary
> answer in the OSS world: if you're installing freebsd and get
> intimidated by the tcsh prompt, there's something intrinsically wrong
> that no number of helpful answers will correct. I did choose freebsd
> over the other free *nixes for my impression of better documentation
> and community support, but especially because there's already an
> awesome piece of documentation like the handbook, questions that are
> really too basic are just adding to the background noise.
>
> what I'd really like/need as a newbie are more tutorials in the style
> of samba's how-to, i.e. walkthroughs for selected scenarios that are
> representative of real-world use of the OS. stuff like what the
> freebsddiary provides, but much more and more oriented to newbies/home
> users that are probably coming from windows. I'm thinking for example
> of common things like setting up a home firewall, or a simple file
> server (maybe with RAID which is what I'm struggling w/ right now)
> with recommendations all the way from the hardware ("if you're buying
> new, X is more supported than Y" is something I'd really like to see
> explicitly more often) to installation, configuration and maintenance.
>
> having said that I wouldn't want to see newbies- go though :)
>
> g.
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