From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 01:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E2716A401 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx6.mail.ru (mx6.mail.ru [194.67.23.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1C843D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:16:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [213.140.107.1] (port=11448 helo=[213.140.107.1]) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1FUvs5-000KPZ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:16:14 +0400 Message-ID: <44419AD8.6070408@inbox.ru> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:16:08 +0600 From: applecom@inbox.ru User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060415) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mouse scroll up problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:16:16 -0000 Hello! I have FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and optical Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer, USB native, plugged to PS/2 port via it's own USB->PS/2 adaptor. When I scroll my mouse wheel up in X11 it acts like "scroll up + left button one/double-click". For example, in Opera, Firefox. In MS Windows mouse works correctly. boot message: psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 xorg.conf fragment: "Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection" /etc/rc.conf fragment: moused_enable="YES" moused_type="auto" moused_port="/dev/psm0" moused_flags="-F 200 -r high -a 2.5 -l 1" mousechar_start=3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 02:25:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B641E16A403 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vayu@sklinks.com) Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3118343D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vayu@sklinks.com) Received: (qmail 2525 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2006 02:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO akasha.akasha) (varuna@sbcglobal.net@69.107.4.129 with plain) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2006 02:25:22 -0000 From: Vayu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:25:13 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <8dc358df0604151014x1fb2a25dye538797bc4adeea@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8dc358df0604151014x1fb2a25dye538797bc4adeea@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604151925.13460.vayu@sklinks.com> Cc: Paulino Calderon Subject: Re: Improving kde perfomance... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:25:23 -0000 On Saturday 15 April 2006 10:14, Paulino Calderon wrote: > Hey folks, Ive been googling about howto improve kde perfomance, i ve always > used fluxbox as my wm but recently I got a new laptop, it has a 3.2 ghz > processor, 1 gb of ram, and an ati mobility radeon x600 wiith 256 mb of > video meomry so I decided to try kde but so far the perfomance has benn > really poor, cpu usage is always between 20-25% eventhough im not doing > anything, most apps takes between 5 and 10 seconds to start, and even the > mouse pointer feels like it gets stuck when i move it too fast, is this as > fast as it gets for kde? or do you guys think there is osmething wrong with > my installation? I instaleld it via ports by the way. > I think you might have other issues. That should be plenty of power for KDE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 02:51:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F237D16A402 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmc20@xxiii.com) Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314E243D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:51:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmc20@xxiii.com) Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.209.177.221]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060416025136.VNSI9349.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:51:36 -0400 Received: from wcox.bellsouth.net ([68.209.177.221]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060416025136.NAKU18663.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@wcox.bellsouth.net>; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:51:36 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20060415223555.02e938c8@mailsvr.xxiii.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:52:32 -0400 To: Pete Slagle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: wmc20@xxiii.com In-Reply-To: <4440CDC2.10605@voidcaptain.com> References: <5507.208.11.134.3.1145029242.squirrel@mail.dfwlp.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20060414115321.02e7f110@mailsvr.xxiii.com> <4440CDC2.10605@voidcaptain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Proper Method of Time Sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:51:38 -0000 At 06:41 AM 4/15/2006, Pete Slagle wrote: >>ntpd_flags="-A -p /var/run/ntpd.pid" > >Just curious, why disable authentication (with -A)? 'Cause that's how it's shown in the quick & dirty example in The Handbook or FAQ or something ;) I didn't find much other info on it, but I figured you had to coordinate it on both ends, and it was overkill for my needs. Should I mess with it? -Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 07:10:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0367F16A401 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from havoc.unixathome.org (havoc.unixathome.org [66.154.98.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E8143D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:10:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A276556487 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from havoc.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (havoc.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JGJMrdZgWZhl for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A847456457; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060416071002.A847456457@havoc.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2006-03-26 - 2006-04-15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:10:06 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 14-Apr : Mailman - additional virtual domains You got one! Now add more.... http://freebsddiary.org/mailman-virtual-domains.php?2 10-Apr : Card reader for FreeBSD A useful way to get pictures off digital cameras http://freebsddiary.org/card-reader.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 07:53:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6FB16A401 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver.iberien@charter.net) Received: from mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4221F43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:53:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliver.iberien@charter.net) Received: from mxip17a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip17a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.147]) by mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3G7r62F028488 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 03:53:06 -0400 Received: from 24-205-236-185.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com (HELO linux.linux) ([24.205.236.185]) by mxip17a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2006 03:53:06 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,122,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="200809484:sNHT16420608" From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:53:05 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604160053.05377.oliver.iberien@charter.net> Subject: Newbie question -- which files to back up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:53:08 -0000 I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on a home machine and backing up to a DVD Burner, probably using kdar, the dar archiver that comes with KDE. My question is : which system files to back up, along with my personal stuff? I'm used to using linux distributions that do your system backups for you. The capacity of the DVDs sets a practical limit on what I can reasonably back up, so I need to pick and choose, basically to make recovery easier should everything go south. Thanks! Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 08:15:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBC716A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajr9@po.cwru.edu) Received: from beta.eecs.cwru.edu (beta.EECS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.150.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1038D43D49 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:15:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ajr9@po.cwru.edu) Received: from beta.eecs.cwru.edu ([::ffff:67.181.68.183]) (AUTH: LOGIN reitz, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,40bits,EXP-RC4-MD5) by beta.eecs.cwru.edu with esmtp; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 04:15:56 -0400 id 000ABE65.4441FD3C.000000D2 From: Andy Reitz To: Oliver Iberien , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <111406706926b8b45671.846930886.ajr9@po.cwru.edu> X-Mailer: OSSO Email, version 2005.42.1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:15:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:58:12 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:15:58 -0000 Hi Oliver, At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories: /etc /usr/local/etc /home That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the software thar you installed from ports. The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other applications might put data in other places, however, so you might want to research the applications that you are running to make sure you don't miss any important data. -Andy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 09:46:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C19B16A404 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:46:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@andr.ru) Received: from ws.andr.ru (gw.andr.ru [80.249.152.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F19A43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:46:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@andr.ru) Received: from ws.andr.ru (localhost.andr.ru [127.0.0.1]) by ws.andr.ru (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k3G9kZNM001191 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:46:35 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from mail@andr.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by ws.andr.ru (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k3G9kWka001190 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:46:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from mail@andr.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: ws.andr.ru: awg set sender to mail@andr.ru using -f From: Andrew Wingorodov Organization: home office To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:46:32 +0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604161346.32701.mail@andr.ru> Subject: a new ftp mirror of freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:46:38 -0000 i wish make a new ftp mirror of freebsd. i have a private server on the M9 established http://andr.ru/img/resume/se7320vp2.jpg ftp://213.248.60.220/ I shall be grateful for answers: 1) how many the mbyte should be had? 2) what for copying are better for using? (sitecopy? rsync? anyware?) 3) how to get in the list of mirrors http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html ? thanks, with best regards -- andr Andrew Wingborn http://andr.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 09:56:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2893416A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch (mailhub.unibe.ch [130.92.9.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29E543D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:56:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub01.unibe.ch [130.92.5.61]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8203AFE4 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:56:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.70]) by localhost (scanhub01.unibe.ch [130.92.5.61]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03200-04-45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:56:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D593B051 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:56:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from droopy.unibe.ch (droopy [130.92.64.20]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3G9u8Ju007150 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:56:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from roth@localhost) by droopy.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id k3G9u80u017210 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:56:08 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:56:08 +0200 From: Tobias Roth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060416095608.GA17188@droopy.unibe.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne Subject: adding root cert to openssl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:56:12 -0000 Hi I'd like to add a certificate to OpenSSL. The OpenSSL HOWTO mentions OPENSSLDIR, which is /etc/ssl on FreeBSD (for OpenSSL from base). To have OpenSSL recognize a new certificate, it has to be put into OPENSSLDIR/certs/, but this does not exist on FreeBSD. The only certs/ dir I could find is /usr/src/crypto/openssl/certs/. So my question: How to add a certificate to OpenSSL on FreeBSD? Thanks, Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 10:57:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B44116A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3354443D55 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 23909 invoked by uid 510); 16 Apr 2006 12:03:55 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.104 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.88/1261. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(192.168.0.104):SA:0(-4.3/5.0):. 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Processed in 2.090516 secs Process 23902) Received: from usr003 (HELO ubuntu.bathnetworks.local.bathnetworks.local) (bsd@bathnetworks.com@192.168.0.104) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 16 Apr 2006 12:03:53 +0100 From: robert To: Andrew Wingorodov In-Reply-To: <200604161346.32701.mail@andr.ru> References: <200604161346.32701.mail@andr.ru> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:57:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1145185045.9489.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a new ftp mirror of freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:57:32 -0000 On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 13:46 +0400, Andrew Wingorodov wrote: > i wish make a new ftp mirror of freebsd. > i have a private server on the M9 established > http://andr.ru/img/resume/se7320vp2.jpg > ftp://213.248.60.220/ > > I shall be grateful for answers: > 1) how many the mbyte should be had? > 2) what for copying are better for using? (sitecopy? rsync? anyware?) > 3) how to get in the list of mirrors http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html ? > > thanks, with best regards > > -- andr > Andrew Wingborn > http://andr.ru/ Andrew, Have a look ate this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/index.html Good luck Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 12:24:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6972816A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mo.babaei@gmail.com) Received: from pproxy.gmail.com (pproxy.gmail.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B6C43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:24:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mo.babaei@gmail.com) Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t32so411862pyc for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:24:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=C108l2Cn89ftMkoAZYbmdXEAwhRSfjTb2vI+HqgceMLE9QBVqqsZeq10HbOJAeNoB1eoQ/obYZ181zPCSSO6QahdVg1QIzqe7Z6KsSfcr7y2L4sO7SaEcFtNXxEcCBbqegrRFyw7sLN7Aa8l7yazSmGVcIK88n5axbv/wQNcG4A= Received: by 10.35.34.20 with SMTP id m20mr677385pyj; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.26.20 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5bf3a41f0604160524n364d7638o83893aee7cbcadad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:54:26 +0430 From: "Mohamad Babaei" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems Installing FreeBSD 5.4 & 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:24:27 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 & 6.0 on my intel Celeron 2.0 Pc, but every time i get the following error when the next installation process is "Fdisk" : "no disks found! please verify that your disk controller is being properly probed" please help. Regards, Mo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 12:39:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C95316A405 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98DA43D55 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:39:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r21so195174wxc for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:39:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DzUhZU9r0eoV2SL95mRMPgqCo/yZ2XvlmcdrLf7Vl38RWdM5oxv6p5BzlWpt9ez8qUZmhqD9F737Sd9nM1z07mBHBeTKnqP//MXQCv7DAVVjtQQTJXNkJgLfcCcbg6o3dFjTxqKN6+3MOyNfh8aZ8nZCbZ1zspaMQoa8Q51diIQ= Received: by 10.70.116.10 with SMTP id o10mr3974755wxc; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.75.7 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20604160539v2d82fcb7sac33ee9e62dfa3bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:39:22 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: TV Tuner viewing software suggestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:39:23 -0000 I'm trying to use my TV Tuner (A Leadtek Brooktree chipset tuner), and I have gotten FXTV to work great with one exception: It appears to only work in something that looks to be about 320x240, when I go fullscreen or anything larger than what it opens as, it only draws to part of the screen... providing something, that while rather cool looking, is not productive for watching tv or playing console games. I tried getting kbtv to work, but I'm getting an error installing py-kde. I tried getting xawtv to work, but it's got compile errors. Both of these have occured since my earliest CVSUPs, at around the 28th of last month, py-kde seems to work pre-cvsup, but I don't know how to fix it now, nor do I know a good cvsup date to grab the clean pykde. Thanks, -Jim The last of the xawtv compile: cc -shared -Wl,-soname,read-qt.so -o libng/plugins/read-qt.so libng/plugins/read-qt.o -L/usr/local/lib -lquicktime -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib -lglib-12 -lm cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=3Dathlon-mp -DMMX=3D1 -I/usr/ports/multimedia/xawtv/work/xawtv-3.95/common -I/usr/local/include -L/usr/local/lib -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=3D64 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts -I. -I./vbistuff -I./x11 -I./jwz -I./common -I./console -I./x11 -I./structs -I./libng -Llibng -DCONFIGFILE=3D"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xawtvrc" -DLIBDIR=3D"/usr/X11R6/lib/xawtv" -DDATADIR=3D"/usr/X11R6/share/xawtv" -DVERSION=3D"3.95" -fPIC -Wp,-MD,mk/libng_plugins_write-qt.tmp -c -o libng/plugins/write-qt.o libng/plugins/write-qt.c In file included from libng/plugins/write-qt.c:7: /usr/local/include/lqt/quicktime.h:423: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/local/include/lqt/quicktime.h:432: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/local/include/lqt/quicktime.h:442: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype In file included from /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt.h:6, from libng/plugins/write-qt.c:9: /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:192: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:202: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:210: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:226: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:235: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype In file included from libng/plugins/write-qt.c:9: /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt.h:136: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt.h:248: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype libng/plugins/write-qt.c: In function `video_list': libng/plugins/write-qt.c:351: error: structure has no member named `num_encoding_colormodels' libng/plugins/write-qt.c:353: error: structure has no member named `encoding_colormodels' libng/plugins/write-qt.c:354: error: structure has no member named `encoding_colormodels' libng/plugins/write-qt.c:381: error: structure has no member named `num_encoding_colormodels' libng/plugins/write-qt.c:382: error: structure has no member named `encoding_colormodels' gmake: *** [libng/plugins/write-qt.o] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/xawtv. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/xawtv. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade66555.0 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! multimedia/xawtv (new compiler error) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed the last of the py-kde compile: c++ -c -Wno-deprecated-declarations -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=3Dathlon-mp -Wall -W -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I. -I../extra/kde350 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -o sipkdecorepart0.o sipkdecorepart0.cpp sip/kdecore/ktimezones.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_ZoneMap(void= *)': /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:191: error: `KTimezone::KTimezone(const KTimezone&)' is private sip/kdecore/ktimezones.sip:209: error: within this context sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `void* init_KTimezones(sipWrapper*, PyObject*, sipWrapper**)': /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:340: error: `KTimezones::KTimezones(const KTimezones&)' is private sipkdecorepart0.cpp:9497: error: within this context sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `void* init_KTimezone(sipWrapper*, PyObject*, sipWrapper**)': /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:191: error: `KTimezone::KTimezone(const KTimezone&)' is private sipkdecorepart0.cpp:10450: error: within this context sip/kdecore/kmountpoint.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_KMountPoint_List(void*)': sip/kdecore/kmountpoint.sip:151: warning: taking address of temporary sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_Display(void*)': sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34478: warning: unused variable 'sipCpp' sip/kdecore/kconfigbase.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_ulonglong(void*)': sip/kdecore/kconfigbase.sip:307: warning: unused variable 'LongLong' sip/kdecore/kwinmodule.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_QValueList_2100(void*)': sip/kdecore/kwinmodule.sip:111: warning: unused variable 'inst' sipkdecorepart0.cpp: At global scope: sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34440: warning: unused parameter 'sipPy' sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34440: warning: unused parameter 'sipIsErr' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde/work/PyKDE-snapshot20060122/kdecore. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde/work/PyKDE-snapshot20060122. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 12:50:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F49216A402 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-142-072.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.142.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A05543D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:50:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p17.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3GCjPb7075065; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:45:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20060416074441.02871c00@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:45:18 -0500 To: "Mohamad Babaei" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <5bf3a41f0604160524n364d7638o83893aee7cbcadad@mail.gmail.co m> References: <5bf3a41f0604160524n364d7638o83893aee7cbcadad@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Problems Installing FreeBSD 5.4 & 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:50:05 -0000 You need to provide more information on your system such as what disk controller(s) it has and what hard disks. -Derek At 07:24 AM 4/16/2006, Mohamad Babaei wrote: >Hi, >I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 & 6.0 on my intel Celeron 2.0 Pc, but >every time i get the following error when the next installation process >is "Fdisk" : > >"no disks found! please verify that your disk controller is being properly >probed" >please help. > >Regards, >Mo. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 12:56:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A0A16A402 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAD743D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:56:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([70.39.69.56]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060416125655.FJCZ23465.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:56:55 -0400 From: "fbsd" To: "Mohamad Babaei" , Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:56:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5bf3a41f0604160524n364d7638o83893aee7cbcadad@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Problems Installing FreeBSD 5.4 & 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:56:56 -0000 try trying turn plug-n-play and power management in the pc bios. post the boot probe log here -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mohamad Babaei Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:24 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems Installing FreeBSD 5.4 & 6.0 Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 & 6.0 on my intel Celeron 2.0 Pc, but every time i get the following error when the next installation process is "Fdisk" : "no disks found! please verify that your disk controller is being properly probed" please help. Regards, Mo. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 13:04:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91E116A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D6243D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:04:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id l8so365367nzf for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:04:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=no5/uLJcs2rniXyfVCUyydh3DagFFMF6QMbvFNRDIGipHAtoeTlB1c3OiaZYJVvAzoOf0wb8QLSkgtyvKnCF+Dex8JfGuRBKLyIB/GiUp/QPjxnBFAum3Kg8Jn732SDVB0npUml+JXdpwYR2QQnIplb8lzDF6HuRf9NWqnahh+w= Received: by 10.36.252.32 with SMTP id z32mr1794800nzh; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.22.74 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:04:23 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Gmail vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:04:24 -0000 So what's up with gmail and freebsd sites? I haven't seen a single message delivered to my inbox since April 13. Not from mailing lists, not from gnats scripts - nothing. I told the lists to send mail to my other address, I then redirect from there back to gmail - and it works. So gmail seems to block direct communications from the freebsd servers only. And I'm not the only one to experience this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-April/119155.html I've written to gmail support directly and through their forums, but haven't yet received anything except for the automated replies telling me that I'm an idiot and pointing me to their faqs. I understand that if a problem of this magnitude stays unresolved for more than 72 hours, I should probably be looking for another mail service. What would you suggest? I've already signed up for Yahoo Beta, but it's not clear when I will receive the invitation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 13:11:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073A816A403 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@firebadger.net) Received: from mail.firebadger.net (82-69-4-157.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.4.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1670243D53 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:11:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@firebadger.net) Received: (qmail 65356 invoked by uid 1011); 16 Apr 2006 13:11:34 -0000 Received: from 192.168.1.10 by brian.firebadger.net (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.88.1/1375. spamassassin: 3.1.1. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(192.168.1.10):SA:0(-4.3/5.0):. Processed in 0.940738 secs); 16 Apr 2006 13:11:34 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.3 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-FIREBADGER-Mail-From: richard@firebadger.net via brian.firebadger.net X-Antivirus-FIREBADGER: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(192.168.1.10):SA:0(-4.3/5.0):. Processed in 0.940738 secs Process 65348) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) (richard@firebadger.net@192.168.1.10) by mail.firebadger.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 2006 13:11:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4442426A.5030202@firebadger.net> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:11:06 +0100 From: Richard Collyer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Pantyukhin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Gmail vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:11:26 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > So what's up with gmail and freebsd sites? I haven't > seen a single message delivered to my inbox since > April 13. Not from mailing lists, not from gnats scripts - > nothing. > > I told the lists to send mail to my other address, I then > redirect from there back to gmail - and it works. So > gmail seems to block direct communications from the > freebsd servers only. > > And I'm not the only one to experience this: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-April/119155.html > > I've written to gmail support directly and through their > forums, but haven't yet received anything except for > the automated replies telling me that I'm an idiot and > pointing me to their faqs. > > I understand that if a problem of this magnitude stays > unresolved for more than 72 hours, I should probably > be looking for another mail service. What would you > suggest? I've already signed up for Yahoo Beta, but > it's not clear when I will receive the invitation. If your running FreeBSD just get a qmail server on the go and slap squirrelmail on there for web based mail. Cheers Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 13:12:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECE916A401 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4A643D4C for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:12:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so479593wra for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=STYUcWakmxjMp0vF81UohfEqSZ2+fj2We0ZGfp04xMBeAwxzN28LRVQx4rislguPizAGGMQETvPvBnhPl9q9xAmkVSBsLtmyHjD4RuC/52Z6dO7yQIfMhrE5II+xLBCM5xNPSOibsx0ZSJoOxFDEkNSfGZNZ7kk5MukOgE+XJe0= Received: by 10.54.157.9 with SMTP id f9mr2994691wre; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.89.12 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72cf361e0604160612x4257ed9ei6dc02f9f64b168ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:12:19 +0100 From: "Martin Hepworth" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Gmail and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:12:20 -0000 Well I'm glad it's not just me - I even tried subscribing again and I haven't got the activation request. So I'd say for reason gmail is bouncing the emails, as the freeBSD lists seem to have unsubcribed me.. Other email seems to be coming in fine.. -- Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 13:25:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FD216A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4235D43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:25:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:25:52 +0200 id 0003980C.444245E0.00006DBC Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:25:52 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060416132552.GA28076@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: wifi ath X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:25:54 -0000 Bought a WiFi D-Link with atheros chipset. I use a non-default kernel, so I guess I have to put some options back in and recompile. Will upgrade to 6.1-rc at the same time ;-) Any pitfalls? What options exactly do I need to have my ath based wifi card up and running? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 13:48:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A26716A401 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E86B43D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:48:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so218995wxc for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:48:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=KdqdPelSpaUCvuW+wXml2Eenp/xjCt+Q6N3s1cEXOWSghyrJMqUDTKIugBJ2l7grPmysKDZKcuw49zSaarUr9RTYSQKjXIUBxtSEonr34Td4zQY7PIlbHODYRsr5730UiIEuflsYOyA+Nvraj8qJw0zrgXeOeiQyb3k6SNR0h6Q= Received: by 10.70.54.14 with SMTP id c14mr358238wxa; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.75.7 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20604160648r6c4fbcb5l290eef9cbd22bb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:48:06 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: where/under what do I look for relaxing the privlege requirements for mounting/accessing devices? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:48:07 -0000 I want a non-root user (I'm happy to limit it to wheel users), to be able to mount smb shares and rip music, but I don't know how to do this. Where can I find documentation on this? Thanks, -Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 14:01:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B5D16A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AF043D49 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:01:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend2.internal (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14196D4798C for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.152]) by frontend2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:01:00 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: RnX5F7dUbZiLqCBdnz0BFj1UxHX8lC0c7Vkv16winbJr 1145196057 Received: from [192.168.1.200] (unknown [205.246.14.228]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFD57F33 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44424E31.2000504@fastmail.fm> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:01:21 -0500 From: Patrick Bowen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060416132552.GA28076@lothlorien.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20060416132552.GA28076@lothlorien.nagual.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wifi ath X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:01:31 -0000 dick hoogendijk wrote: >Bought a WiFi D-Link with atheros chipset. >I use a non-default kernel, so I guess I have to put some options back in >and recompile. Will upgrade to 6.1-rc at the same time ;-) > >Any pitfalls? >What options exactly do I need to have my ath based wifi card up and >running? > > > Dick; Test the card with "kldload if_ath" as root, then ifconfig and dhcp, before you re-compile the kernel. If that works then you can just add the modules at startup. Saves time recompiling. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 14:04:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B87616A405 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DE443D4C for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:04:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-22-29.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.29]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2006 10:04:43 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,123,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="227359022:sNHT23404864" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17474.20119.875374.97964@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:03:03 -0400 To: Tobias Roth In-Reply-To: <20060416095608.GA17188@droopy.unibe.ch> References: <20060416095608.GA17188@droopy.unibe.ch> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta26) "endive" XEmacs Lucid Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: adding root cert to openssl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:04:48 -0000 Tobias Roth writes: > I'd like to add a certificate to OpenSSL. The OpenSSL HOWTO mentions > OPENSSLDIR, which is /etc/ssl on FreeBSD (for OpenSSL from base). To > have OpenSSL recognize a new certificate, it has to be put into > OPENSSLDIR/certs/, but this does not exist on FreeBSD. The > only certs/ dir I could find is /usr/src/crypto/openssl/certs/. > > So my question: How to add a certificate to OpenSSL on FreeBSD? Have you encountered any reason you can't just create the directory yourself? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 14:07:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CBA16A410 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F8043D4C for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 4596 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2006 14:07:47 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Apr 2006 14:07:47 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 443C228423; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Jim Stapleton" References: <80f4f2b20604160648r6c4fbcb5l290eef9cbd22bb7@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Apr 2006 10:07:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20604160648r6c4fbcb5l290eef9cbd22bb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44fykdaa1a.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where/under what do I look for relaxing the privlege requirements for mounting/accessing devices? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:07:48 -0000 "Jim Stapleton" writes: > I want a non-root user (I'm happy to limit it to wheel users), to be > able to mount smb shares and rip music, but I don't know how to do > this. Where can I find documentation on this? For the mounting part, see the FAQ entry titled "How do I let ordinary users mount floppies, CDROMs and other removable media?". For ripping from CD, access to the device should be enough. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 14:10:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B62316A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@g-mapps.com) Received: from valium.tcm.gmapps.net.uk (valium.tcm.gmapps.net.uk [194.207.235.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D851E43D55 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:10:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@g-mapps.com) Received: from [192.168.0.16] (82-69-143-46.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.143.46]) (authenticated bits=0) by valium.tcm.gmapps.net.uk (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k3GEA78s088592 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:10:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from danny@g-mapps.com) Message-ID: <44425035.4010403@g-mapps.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:09:57 +0100 From: Danny Butroyd User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060123) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.1, clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on valium.tcm.gmapps.net.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: direct rending doesnt work in xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:10:06 -0000 Hi All I have been tearing my hair out trying to fix this problem. Basically Direct Rendering isnt working. My setup:- OS:- FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #3 Xorg Installed from ports:- [rvn] /home/danny# pkg_info | grep xorg xorg-6.9.0 X.Org distribution metaport xorg-clients-6.9.0_2 X client programs and related files from X.Org xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages xorg-nestserver-6.8.2 Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.8.2_2 X Print server from X.Org xorg-server-6.9.0_1 X.Org X server and related programs xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org dri-devel install from ports:- [rvn] /home/danny# pkg_info | grep dri dri-6.2.20050719,1 DRI OpenGL drivers snapshot All drivers seem to be working ok:- [rvn] /home/danny# dmesg | grep drm drm0: port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xfcff0000-0xfcffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe0000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.19.0 20050911 info: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode Xorg is setup correctly (as far as I know):- ---snip--- Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 0 EndSection ---snip--- >From this page (http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting) I have been through all the checks and my setup fails on the following:- [rvn] /home/danny# setenv LIBGL_DEBUG verbose [rvn] /home/danny# glxinfo name of display: :0.0 libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 5.0.3 r200 (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so: Undefined symbol "_glapi_add_entrypoint") libGL error: unable to find driver: r200_dri.so The solution (according to the wiki) is to reinstall DRI and LIBGL from source, however, I have reinstalled all the relevant ports but I still get the same problem. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 15:22:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED7916A404 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: from web60014.mail.yahoo.com (web60014.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77F3043D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:22:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 20055 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Apr 2006 15:22:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=y8yv4NhQf7Sn7ybughD6jNK0Syc0pYeJyqwrQsK+fT419OLMgqgMLH+/79UNswZT9hsxT1AHH5SyuUSQ01CbJgVzTEA26P068m/M5mC3uNPIV6eG8J8BNGNNB8vE5H7eo0DQimK/5v8m6Yc/vEyevza2o9fmc/b1ryTDuADkRWY= ; Message-ID: <20060416152213.20053.qmail@web60014.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.94.11.89] by web60014.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:22:13 EDT Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:22:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter To: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <200604111357.k3BDvods019473@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: [SOLVED] Re: seeking help on "adding a disk" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:22:15 -0000 --- Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > > > --- Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > # newfs -U /dev/ad2s1e > > > > > > Newfs used to require the raw device name, as in > > > > > > newfs -U /dev/rad2s1e > > > > > > but I see the man page doesn't show that in its example now, so > > > maybe it no long does. Try it once and see. > > > > > > > The newfs should then work after the bsdlabel is fixed up. > > > > > > > > Nope. Same error. Retries of newfs causes crashes at random > > > sectors. > > > > I am guessing that the 40-wire cable is causing poor signaling. > I > > > also > > > > tried changing the offset of 'e' to 0 and modifying the 'size' > so > > > that > > > > it matches 'c'. > > > > > > Could be. If using rad2s1e doesn't help, then maybe that is your > > > problem. > > > > > > This is all I have: > > > > $ ls -lh /dev/r* > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Apr 9 15:55 /dev/random > > > > No raw devices. > > Yes. devices don't just show up and stay there any more. They > are managed by devfs. I haven't studied that to see just how > it works yet, so I don't know at which point it should start showing > up in /dev if ever. > > I just figured trying a newfs with the /dev/r... might be something > to try out to see what happened - sort of an experiment and if that > doesn't do it, then maybe the thing to pursue is your concern about > the cables. > > If that doesn't work, I think this has gone beyond any problems I > have > ever had so I don't know what else to suggest. Hopefully someone > else > will have some thing to say. > > ////jerry I changed to a UDMA 133 cable (80-wire) and that solved the problem; the newfs command succeeded! Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 15:34:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556EC16A401 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9D443D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:34:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:34:57 +0200 id 0003980C.44426421.0000706C Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:34:57 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060416153457.GA28758@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20060416132552.GA28076@lothlorien.nagual.st> <44424E31.2000504@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44424E31.2000504@fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: Re: wifi ath X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:34:59 -0000 On 16 Apr Patrick Bowen wrote: > dick hoogendijk wrote: > > >Bought a WiFi D-Link with atheros chipset. > >Any pitfalls? > >What options exactly do I need to have my ath based wifi card up and > >running? > > > Test the card with "kldload if_ath" as root, then ifconfig and dhcp, > before you re-compile the kernel. If that works then you can just add > the modules at startup. Saves time recompiling. True. Thanks for your suggestion. On the other hand I will recompile non the less, because I will upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1. So I will look at the messages from kldload to see what's needed in the kernel ;-) ?? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 16:00:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0802816A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98AB43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:00:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from foo.antimatter.net (cpe-72-132-240-21.san.res.rr.com [72.132.240.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3GG0Zxg017297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:00:35 -0700 X-MailKey: purple frogs are falling from the sky Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060416085459.06653ab8@antimatter.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:00:26 -0700 To: Andy Reitz , Oliver Iberien , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <111406706926b8b45671.846930886.ajr9@po.cwru.edu> References: <111406706926b8b45671.846930886.ajr9@po.cwru.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:00:38 -0000 At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote: >Hi Oliver, > >At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories: > > /etc > /usr/local/etc > /home > >That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the >software thar you installed from ports. Actually, no. If you want to backup the software installed from ports you will typically need /usr/local. The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know which ports are installed on the machine among other things. -Glenn > The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other > applications might put data in other places, however, so you might > want to research the applications that you are running to make sure > you don't miss any important data. > >-Andy. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 16:09:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDFB16A405 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver-mailinglist@charter.net) Received: from mxsf37.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf37.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C422943D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:09:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliver-mailinglist@charter.net) Received: from mxip33a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip33a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.248]) by mxsf37.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3GG90YO007693 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:09:00 -0400 Received: from 24-205-236-185.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com (HELO linux.linux) ([24.205.236.185]) by mxip33a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2006 12:09:00 -0400 From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:08:56 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <111406706926b8b45671.846930886.ajr9@po.cwru.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20060416085459.06653ab8@antimatter.net> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060416085459.06653ab8@antimatter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604160908.56707.oliver-mailinglist@charter.net> Cc: Andy Reitz , Glenn Dawson Subject: Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:09:02 -0000 On Sunday 16 April 2006 09:00, Glenn Dawson wrote: > At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote: > >Hi Oliver, > > > >At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories: > > > > /etc > > /usr/local/etc > > /home > > > >That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the > >software thar you installed from ports. > > Actually, no. If you want to backup the software installed from > ports you will typically need /usr/local. > > The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know > which ports are installed on the machine among other things. > > -Glenn > > > The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other > > applications might put data in other places, however, so you might > > want to research the applications that you are running to make sure > > you don't miss any important data. > > > >-Andy. Thanks for all this information. Can /usr/local and /var/db just be copied directly back in after recovery, or (if it's more complicated that that) would there be a tutorial on this somewhere? Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 16:36:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2496D16A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEFE43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:36:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from foo.antimatter.net (cpe-72-132-240-21.san.res.rr.com [72.132.240.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3GGZlkd017963 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:36:16 -0700 X-MailKey: purple frogs are falling from the sky Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060416092402.09d28bd0@antimatter.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:34:49 -0700 To: Oliver Iberien , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <200604160908.56707.oliver-mailinglist@charter.net> References: <111406706926b8b45671.846930886.ajr9@po.cwru.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20060416085459.06653ab8@antimatter.net> <200604160908.56707.oliver-mailinglist@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Andy Reitz Subject: Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:36:19 -0000 At 09:08 AM 4/16/2006, Oliver Iberien wrote: >On Sunday 16 April 2006 09:00, Glenn Dawson wrote: > > At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote: > > >Hi Oliver, > > > > > >At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories: > > > > > > /etc > > > /usr/local/etc > > > /home > > > > > >That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the > > >software thar you installed from ports. > > > > Actually, no. If you want to backup the software installed from > > ports you will typically need /usr/local. > > > > The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know > > which ports are installed on the machine among other things. > > > > -Glenn > > > > > The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other > > > applications might put data in other places, however, so you might > > > want to research the applications that you are running to make sure > > > you don't miss any important data. > > > > > >-Andy. > >Thanks for all this information. Can /usr/local and /var/db just be copied >directly back in after recovery, or (if it's more complicated that that) >would there be a tutorial on this somewhere? Generally speaking, /usr/local is empty after a clean install, so simply replacing its contents should be ok. Though keep in mind that some ports put things outside /usr/local so they may not work until other things are restored. /var/db/pkg is the dir you want for restoring the database of installed ports/packages. The other things in /var/db you will probably want to put back as needed instead of all at once. -Glenn >Oliver >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 16:47:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC3A16A401 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from webmaillogin.com (fr3.webmaillogin.com [216.40.35.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD1843D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:47:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from [216.240.12.2] (account gpeel@thenetnow.com HELO GRANT) by fr3.webmaillogin.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.8) with ESMTPA id 167931744 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:47:09 -0400 Message-ID: <00bc01c66175$66ac65c0$6401a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:47:02 -0400 Organization: The Net Now Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Subject: First Upgrade SUCCESS! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:47:11 -0000 Hi all, After using FreeBSD for many years, and all the time upgrading via backing up data and installing from new ISO CD, I have finally decided to talke the time and learn source and ports upgrading. The first one I did was on a devel server with a few ports installed. Upgraded 5.4 RELEASE to 6.1 RC1. Since I have DRAC cards on all the new servers I was able to do it completely remote! That having been said, I have a couple of questions. 1). Is there a simpler way to run mergmaster. What I wound up doing after going blind reading all the diffs, and saying I would 'Deal With Them LAter" was to re-run it and hit 'i' to accept the newly installed version, as the manpage states 'i' is the most commonly used one. So the question is, is all I really need to deal with now, rc.conf, master.passwd, group, sshd_config etc? Should I be accepting 99% of them with 'i'? 2). I have a 4.10 and 4.7 server that I need to upgraded. Can I go from them to 6.1 (When RCn is released?) Or will I need to upgrade to 5.x first? Or, would a virgin install be better here? 3). My Primary nameserver is running 5.2.1. Will it be safe, i.e. will the upgrade process leave my MySQL and BIND setups alone? If not, what must I do to save them? (Other than backing them up, which I of course will do). 4). My Secondary nameserver is 4.4 (Yeah, I know ...). Is it safe to upgrade it simlar to whatever the answer to '2' above is? i.e. straight to 6.1, or 5.x first, or clean install? The most help (I think) I need is with dealing with MERGEMASTER' as it seems a very 'thick' process to undertake. -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 16:47:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA2716A41A for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver-mailinglist@charter.net) Received: from mxsf30.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf30.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6855C43D66 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:47:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliver-mailinglist@charter.net) Received: from mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.184]) by mxsf30.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3GGlOos005258 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:47:24 -0400 Received: from 24-205-236-185.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com (HELO linux.linux) ([24.205.236.185]) by mxip27a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2006 12:47:24 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,123,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="981527707:sNHT17025912" From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:47:20 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604160947.21921.oliver-mailinglist@charter.net> Subject: Newbie question - using sysinstall "Upgrade an existing system" - easy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:47:27 -0000 What actually happens when you use "Upgrade an existing system" in sysinstall? Do you end up with the X-server, etc., all functioning as before, or is there a lot of cleanup to do afterwards? (In my case, this would be from 6.0 to 6.1, whenever the release version of 6.1 comes out. I am getting DMA errors in trying to install a second drive, and posts from this list give the impression that changing versions may make a difference.) Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 17:03:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8515516A427 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E8A43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:03:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412D95E1E; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:03:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fUmxDtIoXG+c; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-235-217.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.235.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BD25C61; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <444278E0.9030301@mac.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:03:28 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <00bc01c66175$66ac65c0$6401a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <00bc01c66175$66ac65c0$6401a8c0@GRANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First Upgrade SUCCESS! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:03:29 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: [ ... ] > 1). Is there a simpler way to run mergmaster. What I wound up doing > after going blind reading all the diffs, and saying I would 'Deal With > Them LAter" was to re-run it and hit 'i' to accept the newly installed > version, as the manpage states 'i' is the most commonly used one. So the > question is, is all I really need to deal with now, rc.conf, > master.passwd, group, sshd_config etc? Should I be accepting 99% of them > with 'i'? You can accept about 95% of them with 'i'. Do a "ls -ltr /etc" and worry about merging only those that have been changed recently, or at least after the OS was first installed. > 2). I have a 4.10 and 4.7 server that I need to upgraded. Can I go from > them to 6.1 (When RCn is released?) Or will I need to upgrade to 5.x > first? Or, would a virgin install be better here? You could go to 5.5 and then to 6, but it's probably easier to do a binary reinstall (possibly on a new drive? a 4.7 machine would have ~5 year or disks in it)... > 3). My Primary nameserver is running 5.2.1. Will it be safe, i.e. will > the upgrade process leave my MySQL and BIND setups alone? If not, what > must I do to save them? (Other than backing them up, which I of course > will do). Ugh. :-) You should upgrade anything running 5.2.1 to 5.5 or 6. > 4). My Secondary nameserver is 4.4 (Yeah, I know ...). Is it safe to > upgrade it simlar to whatever the answer to '2' above is? i.e. straight > to 6.1, or 5.x first, or clean install? Build out new 6.x machines and transition your services off your old hardware, if you can? You're going to experience less downtime than trying to upgrade in place, and if DNS is mission-critical, you ought to prioritize keeping it going... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 17:38:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA25D16A407 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@mail.myisp.co.ke) Received: from mail.myisp.co.ke (mail.myisp.co.ke [193.220.230.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C9543D4C for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:38:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tony@mail.myisp.co.ke) Received: (qmail 9748 invoked by uid 507); 16 Apr 2006 20:28:08 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Myisplap) (193.220.230.58) by mail.myisp.co.ke with SMTP; 16 Apr 2006 20:28:08 +0300 From: "Tony Karanja" To: Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:37:03 +0300 Organization: Myisp Limited Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcZhZjKkRJJyqeWsSriUIFQt7P1/rw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Plip0:< PLIP network interface> on ppbus0 error . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tony@myisp.co.ke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:38:24 -0000 Dear support. Am trying to install FreeBSD 4.11 on a new machine without anyother software ( HP Compaq dx6120 ) with SATA 80 Gb harddisk. But I keep on getting this error. Plip0:< PLIP network interface> on ppbus0. Reason am using the archived version is due to the fact that Etinc bandwidth manager requires the os to be installed. Otherwise would have used a higher version. Kindly assist as I really want to run the FreeBSD and the bandwidth Manager soonest. Regards Tony Karanja Technical Advisor Myisp Limited Nairobi Kenya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 18:14:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BC116A4A7 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathan@pratt.edu) Received: from pratt.edu (mail4.pratt.edu [204.97.89.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3D8543D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:14:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nathan@pratt.edu) Received: (qmail 27633 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2006 18:13:57 -0000 Received: from server01b.pratt.edu (HELO webmail.pratt.edu) (204.97.89.34) by mail4.pratt.edu with SMTP; 16 Apr 2006 18:13:57 -0000 Received: from 69.86.138.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user nathan) by webmail.pratt.edu with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33243.69.86.138.196.1145211237.squirrel@webmail.pratt.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:13:57 -0400 (EDT) From: nathan@pratt.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: wireless setup help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:14:04 -0000 Hi, I'm having difficulties connecting to my roommate's apple airport. Following the guide I tried using a fixed IP: ifconfig ath0 10.0.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 ssid "True That" but got "status: no carrier" and obviously couldn't ping anything. I believe WEP is turned off at the moment as my roommate joins without any password. next I tried the dhcp method from someone in the mailing list. I added these lines to rc.conf then rebooted: ifconfig_ath0="DHCP" ifconfig ath0 ssid "True That" at reboot dhcp wasn't able to pick up any leases and I saw "status: no carrier" on ifconfig ath0. FreeBSD wireless setup is new to me, so I'm probably missing something obvious. The card is a DLink Airplus G and I have the if_ath.ko loading at boot without any problems. Any hints are most appreciated. Thanks, Nathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 18:33:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEDF16A446 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@redry.net) Received: from luke.segpub.com.au (luke.segpub.com.au [64.49.254.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D442343D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:33:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@redry.net) Received: (qmail 24106 invoked by uid 89); 17 Apr 2006 04:33:00 +1000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.34?) (eoghan@redry.net@213.202.187.243) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2006 04:33:00 +1000 Message-ID: <44428DD6.6000401@redry.net> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:32:54 +0100 From: eoghan User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.org Subject: kill aRts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:33:02 -0000 Hello Im having some trouble with my sound on gnome. When I go to my multimedia system selector both my default sink and default source are set to OSS, but when i test them i get: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'" I would like to kill aRts to see if this is my problem... Im using KMPlayer from gnome and was thinking these kde apps might try use aRts? Totem won't start cos audio output was not found. Would this be an aRts issue as i previously used KDE? I searched for some specific information for the oss error message and setting sound on gnome but did not find much. Thanks Eoghan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 18:42:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D486A16A446 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from lon-mail-4.gradwell.net (lon-mail-4.gradwell.net [193.111.201.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E6543D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:42:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from lon-mail-4.gradwell.net ([193.111.201.130] helo=webmaker ident=postmaster&pop3^dgmm&net) by lon-mail-4.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.214) id 44428ffe.c195.158f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:42:06 +0100 (envelope-sender ) From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:42:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200604151523.27398.kees@jeremino.homeunix.net> <200604151623.05589.benlutz@datacomm.ch> In-Reply-To: <200604151623.05589.benlutz@datacomm.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604161942.06793.freebsd01@dgmm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why are people singing there postings on this mailling list ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:42:08 -0000 On Saturday 15 April 2006 15:23, Benjamin Lutz wrote: > On Saturday 15 April 2006 15:23, Kees Plonsz wrote: > > Is is so important to know that the question or answer came from > > that person ? I don't think so. > > Even if it were so, for me it is too much trouble to import every key > > into my key-database from a key-server. > > I sign emails for the same reason I sign my snail-mail letters with a pen. > I like providing authenticity. Whether the recipient actually checks the > signatures is not that important, important is that if the need or desire > arises, he can. > > I don't import every key I come across either, usually only those keys for > which I get signatures on a regular basis. > > > On the other hand, those who aren't able to read singed messages > > are confronted with a lot of carbage tekst wich makes the posting > > harder to read. > > Most people use PGP/Mime these days. If your mail client does not support > PGP, the signature will be surpressed or maybe shown as attachment. Either > way, that doesn't make the mail content harder to read. And if your Mail > client doesn't support Mime yet, well, that's your choice, and seeing the > signature plaintext is far from the worst inconvience you'll have to put up > with in that case. > > > We don't send postings in .html for that same reason. > > That's different. Html text means there's no readable content at all for > non-HTML mail readers. And these are quite common. > > I sign my emails for two other reasons. First, I'm advocating adoption of > PGP by everyone. I wish to sensitize people for the facts that standard > emails are neither private nor authenticated, and that you can achieve > these very important things with PGP. Frankly, I find it staggering how > many people send around confidential information in emails over the public > internet, without thinking of the consequences. > > The second reason is very personal. It takes some effort on my part to sign > email. I am not using any key agent, which means I enter my keyphrase every > time I send an email. This makes the process of sending an email more > conscious for me: I think twice whether I really want to send it. Sometimes > times I've stopped myself from sending an email I would later regret (a > flame, or an angry answer, something like that) at the signing stage. It > means that sending an email is not as much of a fire-and-forget thing for > me. I like that. You raise some good points there. I've not looked at the above at all for my own use yet. Do you recommend some reading on what it is, how-tos etc which are a little less "dry" than man pages? -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 18:53:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB75D16A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4FB43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:53:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend2.internal (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CFCD4C253 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.152]) by frontend2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:53:26 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: EdLhUme7lcB7rEcfBvDI5hEDa9+p1JvubXyZbceXICHF 1145213603 Received: from [192.168.1.200] (unknown [205.246.14.228]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC277F85 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <444292B9.9010804@fastmail.fm> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:53:45 -0500 From: Patrick Bowen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <33243.69.86.138.196.1145211237.squirrel@webmail.pratt.edu> In-Reply-To: <33243.69.86.138.196.1145211237.squirrel@webmail.pratt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wireless setup help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:53:58 -0000 nathan@pratt.edu wrote: >Hi, > >I'm having difficulties connecting to my roommate's apple airport. > >Following the guide I tried using a fixed IP: >ifconfig ath0 10.0.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 ssid "True That" >but got "status: no carrier" and obviously couldn't ping anything. > >I believe WEP is turned off at the moment as my roommate joins without any >password. > >next I tried the dhcp method from someone in the mailing list. I added >these lines to rc.conf then rebooted: >ifconfig_ath0="DHCP" >ifconfig ath0 ssid "True That" > >at reboot dhcp wasn't able to pick up any leases and I saw "status: no >carrier" on ifconfig ath0. > >FreeBSD wireless setup is new to me, so I'm probably missing something >obvious. The card is a DLink Airplus G and I have the if_ath.ko loading >at boot without any problems. Any hints are most appreciated. Thanks, >Nathan > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Nathan; Unless the Apple device is running a DHCP server (you didn't mention if you knew that to be true), setting "ifconfig_ath="DHCP"" in rc.conf will have no effect. Have you tried setting the IP and netmask and ssid to what your roommate's machine is using (just to see if it works)? Also, the line in your rc.conf, "ifconfig ath0 ssid "True That"" is, I suspect, wrong. I'll bet it needs to be something like "ifconfig_ath0_ssid="True That". Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 19:13:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5B816A415 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from efacilitas.de (smtp.efacilitas.de [85.10.196.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780F643D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:13:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-38-154.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.38.154]) by efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D15F4CCEF; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:24:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.local [192.168.1.2]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2185285B; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:13:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44429765.8030501@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:13:41 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danny Butroyd References: <44425035.4010403@g-mapps.com> In-Reply-To: <44425035.4010403@g-mapps.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: direct rending doesnt work in xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:13:42 -0000 Danny Butroyd schrieb: > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "ati" > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9]" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > Screen 0 > EndSection You have to use the driver "radeon" in order to use 3D acceleration. > [rvn] /home/danny# glxinfo > name of display: :0.0 > libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 5.0.3 r200 (screen 0) > libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so > libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so failed > (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so: Undefined symbol > "_glapi_add_entrypoint") > libGL error: unable to find driver: r200_dri.so > > The solution (according to the wiki) is to reinstall DRI and LIBGL from > source, however, I have reinstalled all the relevant ports but I still > get the same problem. Can anyone help? Does /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so exist? Regards Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 19:17:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7521C16A45A for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from lon-mail-4.gradwell.net (lon-mail-4.gradwell.net [193.111.201.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F8E43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:17:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from lon-mail-4.gradwell.net ([193.111.201.130] helo=webmaker ident=postmaster*pop3^dgmm#net) by lon-mail-4.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.214) id 44429859.c18a.1552 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:17:45 +0100 (envelope-sender ) From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:17:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200604150908.24807@aldan> In-Reply-To: <200604150908.24807@aldan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604162017.32109.freebsd01@dgmm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anything to recode mp3 files in the ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:17:47 -0000 On Saturday 15 April 2006 14:08, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hi! > > I have a sizable collection of mp3 files (most of my CDs, actually) encoded > at high ratio for archiving. > > I'd like to put some of them on a low-capacity player. Is there a utility > (preferably -- a ported one), that can reencode an existing mp3 file at > lower quality settings (hence smaller size), or do I have to re-rip the CDs > from scratch? > > Thanks! > > -mi I used this last year to convert a collection of radio shows, audio books and music. I wanted different rates dependant on content and at the time thought this was the way to go. If you try it, beware that it does not cope well with "odd" filesnames, eg with spaces in the name etc. (watch out for line wrap) #!/bin/sh basedir=/home1/convert touch ${basedir}/mp3lock # Convert all mp3 files in $basedir to $bitrate, $samplerate, $channels # where $bitrate, $samplerate and $channels are derived from the pathname. # # $basedir - "top" of the tree to convert. Below $basedir should be two # directories named "todo" and "done". # Below "todo" you must create directories named using this # convention: # @bb@ss@cc@ - where bb is the desired bitrate, ss is the desired # samplerate and cc is the channels or mode. The mode # may be one of s, stereo, j, joint-stereo, m, mono, # f, forced joint-stereo or d, duel channel. # The mp3 files will be stored below "todo/@bb@ss@cc@" and will be # converted using the parameters extracted from the directory name and # then saved into an identical dir structure below "done". # # Note: Spaces in the filenames will be replaced with underscores. # Spaces in directory names will remain as is # # The original file will be deleted after it has been converted. # Comment out the rm "$filename" near the end to keep the original. # # $ffile - just the filename (in case we need this at a future date) # # $destfile - full, modified, path to the "done" dir tree find "$basedir"/todo -name "*.mp3" -type f | while read filename do destfile=`echo -n "$filename" | sed 's/\/todo\//\/done\//' | sed 's/ /_/g'` ffile=${destfile##*/} fpath=${destfile%/*} # Check if dest. path exists, create if req. if [ ! -d "$fpath" ] then mkdir -p "$fpath" fi # Get conversion parameters from pathname bitrate=`echo $destfile | cut -f 2 -d @` samplerate=`echo $destfile | cut -f 3 -d @` channels=`echo $destfile | cut -f 4 -d @` nice -n 20 lame -h -b $bitrate --resample $samplerate -m $channels "$filename" "$destfile" # rm "$filename" done rm `echo ${basedir}/mp3lock` -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 19:29:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F7E16A41F for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulino.calderon@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B20D43D68 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulino.calderon@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so363993nzp for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:29:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rIgtSQPrRceCueq+DtKueq2b/ZeJ0GphvZhXRvAdkgsKVllTXlsqm4qSIIP2DxCpW6/4k/Iu0xiRDDcc8Bnea8F5byRmtpMufLFq1Jfw+BJZNDluOBSrF88VTuwgn+wsw1RGEdu7XcLC/oR5HEVtgHwVbHLZ3tZAC5YvwupGZq4= Received: by 10.65.189.13 with SMTP id r13mr276614qbp; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.35.3 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8dc358df0604161229t79a0e294lc4e0651d7901e127@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:29:20 +0000 From: "Paulino Calderon" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8dc358df0604151014x1fb2a25dye538797bc4adeea@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8dc358df0604151014x1fb2a25dye538797bc4adeea@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Improving kde perfomance... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:29:28 -0000 Hey. I did jump in logic assuming kde is to blame, so I tried fluxbox on this machine and everything runs normal, XOrg cpu usage is <1%. but while I was setting everything up some stuff happened that I would like to mention. First I noticed there are two instances of kdm running at the same time eve= n though I dont start it from rc.d, I only modified /etc/ttys file, also when I modified it to start fluxbox instead of kdm this error comes up: init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs I dont know if this is a different problem though. Then I decided to check out my xorg config file, I realized I was using the default one that loads in case you dont have one , and the next logical ste= p it was to create one to avoid this right? So I created the base file doing Xorg -configure, but when I tested it this time x dindt load, it said something about radeon module not located, I did a kldload radeon but still same error. So how am i running x right now? I added the fluxbox exec line to .xinitrc and did a startx, I guess Im using the same auto default config file that I used when i was running kdm, oh I almost forgot i did installed it from source. Thank you all for your response. On 4/15/06, Paulino Calderon wrote: > > Hey folks, Ive been googling about howto improve kde perfomance, i ve > always used fluxbox as my wm but recently I got a new laptop, it has a 3.= 2ghz processor, 1 gb of ram, and an ati mobility radeon x600 wiith 256 mb o= f > video meomry so I decided to try kde but so far the perfomance has benn > really poor, cpu usage is always between 20-25% eventhough im not doing > anything, most apps takes between 5 and 10 seconds to start, and even the > mouse pointer feels like it gets stuck when i move it too fast, is this a= s > fast as it gets for kde? or do you guys think there is osmething wrong wi= th > my installation? I instaleld it via ports by the way. > > Thanks for your help. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 19:35:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E0A16A40A for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DE2E43D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:35:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 10184 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2006 19:35:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.225?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.225 with plain) by smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2006 19:35:30 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) To: freebsd-questions Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--594795370 From: jekillen Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:35:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: nvnet fails to make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:35:32 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2--594795370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I hope this would be appropriate for this list, I have just downloaded the distfile for the nvnet network interface card built in to a Gigabyte motherboard. The make command aborted with an avalanche of errors, see attachment. Does anyone have any info that would help me correct this situation so I can get my network up on this connection? Thank in advance. JK --Apple-Mail-2--594795370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; x-unix-mode=0644; name="nvnet_make_result.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=nvnet_make_result.txt 4/16/06 ~12:20 P.M. PDT this file: nvnet-src-20050312.tar.gz was just downloaded from the FreeBSD web site ports section and put in the distfiles dir. FreeBSD v6.0 on AMD64 socket 939 Gigabyte mb with built in nvidia NIC. # cp /usr/home/jekillen/to_AMD64-939/nvnet-src-20050312.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles # make ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for nvnet-1.0.0301 => Checksum OK for nvnet-src-20050312.tar.gz. ===> Patching for nvnet-1.0.0301 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for nvnet-1.0.0301 ===> Configuring for nvnet-1.0.0301 ===> Building for nvnet-1.0.0301 ===> module (all) "/usr/share/mk/bsd.compat.mk", line 36: warning: NOOBJ is deprecated in favor of NO_OBJ @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/device_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/bus_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/dev/pci/pci_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/dev/mii/miibus_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/miidevs2h.awk @/dev/mii/miidevs cp /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../nforce/nvnet/nvenetlib.o.i386 nvenetlib.o cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../nforce/nvnet -I/usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I/usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../nforce/nvnet -I/usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -I/usr/include -finline-limit=8000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:106:31: machine/bus_memio.h: No such file or directory /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_attach': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:503: error: structure has no member named `ac_enaddr' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:506: error: structure has no member named `ac_enaddr' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:506: warning: ethernet address is not type unsigned char * (arg 3) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:518: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:544: error: structure has no member named `ac_enaddr' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_detach': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:581: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_init': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:651: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:654: error: `IFF_RUNNING' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:654: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:654: error: for each function it appears in.) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:673: error: structure has no member named `ac_enaddr' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:683: error: `IFF_OACTIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_stop': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:705: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:725: error: `IFF_RUNNING' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:725: error: `IFF_OACTIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_ifstart': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:877: error: `IFF_OACTIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_ioctl': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1013: error: `IFF_RUNNING' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_intr': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1060: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1078: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_setmulti': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1100: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_tick': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1201: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_update_stats': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1223: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_watchdog': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1295: error: `IFF_RUNNING' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_ospackettx': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1525: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1540: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1540: error: `IFF_OACTIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_ospacketrx': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1569: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c: In function `nv_oslinkchg': /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module/../src/if_nv.c:1625: error: structure has no member named `ac_if' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet/module. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/nvnet/work/nvnet. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/nvnet. --Apple-Mail-2--594795370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-2--594795370-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 19:40:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B291716A415 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from porsche.brendan.id.au (219-90-174-213.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.174.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7D143D53 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:40:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from dvditnb1 (mint.brendan.local [192.168.2.10]) by porsche.brendan.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B590D28454 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:10:11 +0930 (CST) From: "Brendan Grossman" To: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:10:19 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcZhjZbj2/+ZnJU3QE6nOqGEnQ/EMw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20060416194011.B590D28454@porsche.brendan.id.au> Subject: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:40:14 -0000 Hello I'm trying to install FreeBSD with the following partition scheme... /boot 100mb (50mb too small? Install fails with filesystem full error) swap 1gb /tmp 100mb / remainder However after I install and boot, it says it can't find /boot/kernel/kernel The version is 6.0. Am I missing sometihng obvious? Does it need to mount / first? If so, how? Cheers Brendan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 19:45:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E90916A40A for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40D343D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:45:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from foo.antimatter.net (cpe-72-132-240-21.san.res.rr.com [72.132.240.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3GJjqYm021340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:45:53 -0700 X-MailKey: purple frogs are falling from the sky Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060416124425.09d66aa0@antimatter.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:45:43 -0700 To: "Brendan Grossman" , From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <20060416194011.B590D28454@porsche.brendan.id.au> References: <20060416194011.B590D28454@porsche.brendan.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:45:54 -0000 At 12:40 PM 4/16/2006, Brendan Grossman wrote: >Hello > >I'm trying to install FreeBSD with the following partition scheme... > >/boot 100mb (50mb too small? Install fails with filesystem full error) >swap 1gb >/tmp 100mb >/ remainder > >However after I install and boot, it says it can't find /boot/kernel/kernel > >The version is 6.0. Am I missing sometihng obvious? Does it need to mount / >first? If so, how? /boot has to be in the / file system. There's a rather lengthy thread about this a few months back if you search the archives. -Glenn >Cheers >Brendan > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 19:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1913F16A433 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@voidcaptain.com) Received: from mx4.x15.net (mx4.x15.net [69.55.237.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDF343D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:57:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@voidcaptain.com) Received: from j1.x15.net [63.196.213.76] by mx4.x15.net with ESMTP id 603050111X1FVDNW000Ms8KU; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:57:50 +0000 Message-ID: <4442A19F.9040404@voidcaptain.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:57:19 -0700 From: Pete Slagle MIME-Version: 1.0 To: applecom@inbox.ru References: <44419AD8.6070408@inbox.ru> In-Reply-To: <44419AD8.6070408@inbox.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse scroll up problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:57:51 -0000 applecom@inbox.ru wrote: > I have FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and optical Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer, > USB native, plugged to PS/2 port via it's own USB->PS/2 adaptor. > > When I scroll my mouse wheel up in X11 it acts like "scroll up + left > button one/double-click". For example, in Opera, Firefox. In MS Windows > mouse works correctly. > > boot message: > psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 > > xorg.conf fragment: > "Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection" > > /etc/rc.conf fragment: > moused_enable="YES" > moused_type="auto" > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > moused_flags="-F 200 -r high -a 2.5 -l 1" > mousechar_start=3 I am running the same mouse in the same way on the same release. Here is what is working for me: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Protocol" "sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection moused_enable="YES" # don't use type "auto" with KVM moused_nondefault_enable="NO" moused_type="ps/2 -l 2" # -l 2 for scroll (fails in _flags) moused_flags="" [end] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 19:59:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F44516A416 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from porsche.brendan.id.au (219-90-174-213.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.174.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ADE43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:59:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from dvditnb1 (mint.brendan.local [192.168.2.10]) by porsche.brendan.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB69B28454 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:29:03 +0930 (CST) From: "Brendan Grossman" To: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:29:11 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcZhjmCQxcoyqHhaSgionz4KRa/v0wAAOqQg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060416124425.09d66aa0@antimatter.net> Message-Id: <20060416195903.BB69B28454@porsche.brendan.id.au> Subject: RE: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:59:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Dawson [mailto:glenn@antimatter.net] > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 5:16 AM > To: Brendan Grossman; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive > > /boot has to be in the / file system. > > There's a rather lengthy thread about this a few months back > if you search the archives. Think I found it... http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2005-July/092614.ht ml That's not good then. I'm setting up a system with many users, who will need access to /var and their /home. They will have quotas, so data in /var + data in /home must be less than their quota. Obviously it's not a good idea to create separate /var and /home partitions as for example, if say /var filled up, the user won't be able to write to it, even though they are "allowed" to since their quota hasn't been reached. Hmmm... Does /boot have to be in the first 1024 cylinders still? I could adjust my scheme as such: swap 1gb /tmp 500mb (mounted noexec,nosuid) / remainder Will this cause any dramas? Cheers Brendan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:24:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C3316A419 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: from pinnacle.akherb.com (94-37-237-24.gci.net [24.237.37.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F5E43D4C for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:24:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id ACD135D01; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:24:36 -0800 (AKDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pinnacle.akherb.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.2.160] (209-124-141-064.ip.arctic.net [209.124.141.64]) by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010D15C9B; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:24:35 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Mangohealth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:24:21 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416195903.BB69B28454@porsche.brendan.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20060416195903.BB69B28454@porsche.brendan.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart9544834.vJdRjqUp1T"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200604161224.32990.beech@mangohealth.org> Cc: Brendan Grossman Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:24:40 -0000 --nextPart9544834.vJdRjqUp1T Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 16 April 2006 11:59, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Glenn Dawson [mailto:glenn@antimatter.net] > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 5:16 AM > > To: Brendan Grossman; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive > > > > /boot has to be in the / file system. > > > > There's a rather lengthy thread about this a few months back > > if you search the archives. > > Think I found it... > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2005-July/092614= =2Eh >t ml > > That's not good then. I'm setting up a system with many users, who will > need access to /var and their /home. They will have quotas, so data in /v= ar > + data in /home must be less than their quota. Obviously it's not a good > idea to create separate /var and /home partitions as for example, if say > /var filled up, the user won't be able to write to it, even though they a= re > "allowed" to since their quota hasn't been reached. > > Hmmm... Does /boot have to be in the first 1024 cylinders still? I could > adjust my scheme as such: > > swap 1gb > /tmp 500mb (mounted noexec,nosuid) > / remainder It's not a good idea to put everything on the / filesystem. At a minimum I would have: / swap /var /usr Your users will not fill up /var unless you allow them unlimited mail,=20 databases or access to root. User's tempfiles will go to /usr/tmp. On a=20 system with many users, you should consider a /home slice with quotas on th= at=20 and your mailserver set to deliver mail to the users file. Remember not=20 everyone is going to max out their filesystem so quotas can be set to=20 reasonable values. There are many good reasons to separate those filesystem= s,=20 disk performance and crashdumps being just two. Having many users is NOT a= =20 good reason to combine filesystems. You need to rethink your diskspace or a= dd=20 another drive for /home or /usr. The handbook has a good section on this.=20 Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@mangohealth.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Mangohealth \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - XanGo - http://www.mangohealth.org =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart9544834.vJdRjqUp1T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEQqgA2TFLCHYGSF0RAoAgAJwJNnhrYj5UIe9PeBmDjz/WjDhQhgCeIW+T kvoxDCuX2nm8/YhnIxZYT+0= =/Bb6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart9544834.vJdRjqUp1T-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:29:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5216A40A for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71B943D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:29:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.61 #1 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1FVClI-0001wC-PY by authid for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:18:20 +0300 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:18:20 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060416191820.GA7226@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: FreeBSD-4.11 and 4GB RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:29:29 -0000 On my brand new Dell PowerEdge, now running FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE under test, there is 4GB RAM, but looking at dmesg.boot, this is what shows: real memory 268173312 (261888K bytes) available memory 255455235 (249468K bytes) This is 2GB RAM only showing, with kernel.GENERIC. There must be something I need to compile in the kernel so as to access more than 2GB RAM. I have compiled "options PAE" in the kernel but it still does not see the full 4GB RAM. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html DISCLAIMER: See http://www.wananchi.com/bms/terms.php -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ It's not the valleys in life I dread so much as the dips. -- Garfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:37:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA80316A412 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roger@roger.jp) Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0AA43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:37:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roger@roger.jp) Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([72.144.14.252]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060416203754.BCHB5495.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:37:54 -0400 Received: from laptop ([72.144.14.252]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id <20060416203746.YTVB4263.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@laptop> for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:37:46 -0400 From: "Roger Williams" To: Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:37:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal Subject: Out of memory during ridiculously large request X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:37:56 -0000 Since an upgrade to 6.0 (perl 5.8.8) I am getting the following error: >>Out of memory during ridiculously large request at /usr/local/pop-before-smtp-1.36/pop-before-smtp line 355 Below is the offending line: >> foreach (keys %db) While googling I see there are other programs having the same issue. Any ideas on how to get perl/freebsd to let the program work? Thanks, Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:38:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959E016A412 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from porsche.brendan.id.au (219-90-174-213.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.174.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081AA43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:38:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from dvditnb1 (mint.brendan.local [192.168.2.10]) by porsche.brendan.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA96F28469 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:08:23 +0930 (CST) From: "Brendan Grossman" To: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:08:31 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcZhk8kuQyUCbF7GTQ+mr6g4xqcUwgAAEabQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <200604161224.32990.beech@mangohealth.org> Message-Id: <20060416203823.BA96F28469@porsche.brendan.id.au> Subject: RE: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:38:25 -0000 > It's not a good idea to put everything on the / filesystem. > At a minimum I would have: > / > swap > /var > /usr > > Your users will not fill up /var unless you allow them > unlimited mail, databases or access to root. They will have unlimited access up until their quota has been reached. Where they use that quota is anyone's guess. > User's tempfiles will go to /usr/tmp. How does that work? I just checked /tmp, and it's not a symlink. > On a system with many users, you should > consider a /home slice with quotas on that and your > mailserver set to deliver mail to the users file. Remember > not everyone is going to max out their filesystem so quotas > can be set to reasonable values. There are many good reasons > to separate those filesystems, disk performance and > crashdumps being just two. Having many users is NOT a good > reason to combine filesystems. You need to rethink your > diskspace or add another drive for /home or /usr. The > handbook has a good section on this. I agree that it's not a great idea, but considering the software I'm using, user files are stored in /var and /home. I don't know what percentage of quotas users will use for emails, databases, or home dirs, and I don't want to take a guess. If say they were to use a lot of their quota for databases, then down the track I don't want to have the problem with /var full but users still under their quota. By the way just did an install, and it boots fine with the swap, /tmp, / structure. Cheers Brendan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:40:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA2516A405 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver-mailinglist@charter.net) Received: from mxsf12.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf12.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D9C43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:40:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliver-mailinglist@charter.net) Received: from mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.143]) by mxsf12.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3GKeB9O022315 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:40:11 -0400 Received: from 24-205-236-185.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com (HELO linux.linux) ([24.205.236.185]) by mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2006 16:40:11 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,124,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="213306446:sNHT20699820" From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:40:09 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604161340.09897.oliver-mailinglist@charter.net> Subject: Newbie question - cannot add new disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:40:13 -0000 Hi, I have been trying to add a second IDE hard drive. I can't seem to get it mounted, or to get what I put into sysinstall and what comes out when I use the command line to agree. I can use sysinstall and then run newfs: bsd# newfs /dev/ad1s1c /dev/ad1s1c: 39205.5MB (80292804 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 214 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920, 2258272, 2634624, 3010976, [...] 78281376, 78657728, 79034080, 79410432, 79786784, 80163136 So it looks as if there is a slice there using the whole 40G disk, called ad1s1c. But: bsd# disklabel ad1 disklabel: /dev/ad1 read: Input/output error And with the following line in /etc/fstab /dev/ad1s1c /disk2 ufs rw 1 1 bsd# mount -u /dev/ad1s1c /disk2 mount: /dev/ad1s1c on /disk2: specified device does not match mounted device Using the command line utilities: bsd# disklabel -Brw ad1 auto bsd# disklabel -e ad1s1 disklabel: /dev/ad1s1: No such file or directory bsd# disklabel -e ad1c disklabel: /dev/ad1c read: Input/output error bsd# newfs /dev/ad1s1c newfs: /dev/ad1s1c: could not find special device bsd# fdisk -BI ad1 ******* Working on device /dev/ad1 ******* fdisk: Geom not found And so I go round and round, as at that point I have to use sysinstall again. I tried this with two disks, both of which were good under linux. The 180G Seagate spat out DMA errors at startup, and I got nowhere with it. This one is a 40G Maxtor. I suppose I could change out the cable (I have none handy otherwise I would have) although I can't see why a cable that worked for linux would not work now. Master/slave are set correctly. I could not mount linux partitions, either, despite the recompile -- don't know if that's related. I'd be grateful for any ideas. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:40:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BFE16A406 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: from pinnacle.akherb.com (94-37-237-24.gci.net [24.237.37.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5555343D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:40:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 1262B5D01; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:48 -0800 (AKDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pinnacle.akherb.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.2.160] (209-124-141-064.ip.arctic.net [209.124.141.64]) by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0695C9B; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:47 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Mangohealth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:33 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416191820.GA7226@ns2.wananchi.com> In-Reply-To: <20060416191820.GA7226@ns2.wananchi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2246871.5PeRPuPLhX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200604161240.45303.beech@mangohealth.org> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-4.11 and 4GB RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:40:49 -0000 --nextPart2246871.5PeRPuPLhX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 16 April 2006 11:18, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On my brand new Dell PowerEdge, now running FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE under > test, there is 4GB RAM, but looking at dmesg.boot, this is what shows: > > real memory 268173312 (261888K bytes) > available memory 255455235 (249468K bytes) > > This is 2GB RAM only showing, with kernel.GENERIC. > > There must be something I need to compile in the kernel so as to access > more than 2GB RAM. > > I have compiled "options PAE" in the kernel but it still does not see > the full 4GB RAM. 4.11 will soon be completely unsupported, besides putting 4.11 on a new ser= ver=20 is akin to putting a flathead-6 engine in a Ferrari. You should=20 upgrade/reinstall 6-pr and go from there. You will have far fewer problems. Just my $.02 Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@mangohealth.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Mangohealth \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - XanGo - http://www.mangohealth.org =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart2246871.5PeRPuPLhX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEQqvN2TFLCHYGSF0RAuOoAJ9mhsghmQqRT7p7WakqZbAC7n9dKwCeIpmd 5vJ+IRxkNxr7JPduvoJ8zdE= =Lgft -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2246871.5PeRPuPLhX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:42:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18E516A402 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683D843D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:42:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id k3GKgBd3010229; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id k3GKgBp7010228; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:42:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200604162042.k3GKgBp7010228@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: petermatulis@yahoo.ca (Peter) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:42:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20060416152213.20053.qmail@web60014.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: seeking help on "adding a disk" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:42:13 -0000 > > > > > > > > > This is all I have: > > > > > > $ ls -lh /dev/r* > > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Apr 9 15:55 /dev/random > > > > > > No raw devices. > > > > Yes. devices don't just show up and stay there any more. They > > are managed by devfs. I haven't studied that to see just how > > it works yet, so I don't know at which point it should start showing > > up in /dev if ever. > > > > I just figured trying a newfs with the /dev/r... might be something > > to try out to see what happened - sort of an experiment and if that > > doesn't do it, then maybe the thing to pursue is your concern about > > the cables. > > > > If that doesn't work, I think this has gone beyond any problems I > > have > > ever had so I don't know what else to suggest. Hopefully someone > > else > > will have some thing to say. > > > > ////jerry > > > I changed to a UDMA 133 cable (80-wire) and that solved the problem; > the newfs command succeeded! So, you were right in the first place. Well, that is often the way it is. Enjoy, ////jerry > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:49:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D668016A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: from pinnacle.akherb.com (94-37-237-24.gci.net [24.237.37.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6555543D78 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:49:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 2FD905D5D; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:49:12 -0800 (AKDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pinnacle.akherb.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.2.160] (209-124-141-064.ip.arctic.net [209.124.141.64]) by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24315D4C; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:49:11 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Mangohealth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:48:51 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416203823.BA96F28469@porsche.brendan.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20060416203823.BA96F28469@porsche.brendan.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2130004.vNLMAINGFq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200604161249.09909.beech@mangohealth.org> Cc: Brendan Grossman Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:49:27 -0000 --nextPart2130004.vNLMAINGFq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 16 April 2006 12:38, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > It's not a good idea to put everything on the / filesystem. > > At a minimum I would have: > > / > > swap > > /var > > /usr > > > > Your users will not fill up /var unless you allow them > > unlimited mail, databases or access to root. > > They will have unlimited access up until their quota has been reached. > Where they use that quota is anyone's guess. > > > User's tempfiles will go to /usr/tmp. > > How does that work? I just checked /tmp, and it's not a symlink. Copy the contents of /tmp to /usr/tmp then remove /tmp and symlink /usr/tmp= =20 to /tmp. > > > On a system with many users, you should > > consider a /home slice with quotas on that and your > > mailserver set to deliver mail to the users file. Remember > > not everyone is going to max out their filesystem so quotas > > can be set to reasonable values. There are many good reasons > > to separate those filesystems, disk performance and > > crashdumps being just two. Having many users is NOT a good > > reason to combine filesystems. You need to rethink your > > diskspace or add another drive for /home or /usr. The > > handbook has a good section on this. > > I agree that it's not a great idea, but considering the software I'm usin= g, > user files are stored in /var and /home. I don't know what percentage of > quotas users will use for emails, databases, or home dirs, and I don't wa= nt > to take a guess. If say they were to use a lot of their quota for > databases, then down the track I don't want to have the problem with /var > full but users still under their quota. > > By the way just did an install, and it boots fine with the swap, /tmp, / > structure. > > Cheers > Brendan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@mangohealth.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Mangohealth \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - XanGo - http://www.mangohealth.org =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart2130004.vNLMAINGFq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEQq3F2TFLCHYGSF0RAg7pAJ9gtd5q8jXSjVJ72HeQ7vYliy/vjQCfQNsC Z252iRGlYN6B0eME7WDbbp8= =EhEG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2130004.vNLMAINGFq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:51:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A9A16A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from porsche.brendan.id.au (219-90-174-213.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.174.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C34943D60 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:51:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from dvditnb1 (mint.brendan.local [192.168.2.10]) by porsche.brendan.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6544228454 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:21:47 +0930 (CST) From: "Brendan Grossman" To: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:21:55 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcZhlzfBxhbdFSdHST+5FuZiSz2WjwAABtuQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <200604161249.09909.beech@mangohealth.org> Message-Id: <20060416205147.6544228454@porsche.brendan.id.au> Subject: RE: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:51:51 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Beech Rintoul [mailto:beech@mangohealth.org] > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 6:19 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Brendan Grossman > Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive > > On Sunday 16 April 2006 12:38, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > > It's not a good idea to put everything on the / filesystem. > > > At a minimum I would have: > > > / > > > swap > > > /var > > > /usr > > > > > > Your users will not fill up /var unless you allow them unlimited > > > mail, databases or access to root. > > > > They will have unlimited access up until their quota has > been reached. > > Where they use that quota is anyone's guess. > > > > > User's tempfiles will go to /usr/tmp. > > > > How does that work? I just checked /tmp, and it's not a symlink. > > Copy the contents of /tmp to /usr/tmp then remove /tmp and > symlink /usr/tmp to /tmp. Yes, may I ask what the point is though? Here is my reason for separating /tmp and mounting it noexec,nosuid: http://www.sagonet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2852 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:54:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCBD16A40A for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A91D43D72 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.internal (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E953AD4B6CB for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.152]) by frontend2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:53:41 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: Rv1YynOGB5BIxpIjozWFVOKJTszWQ3H63pyelwqiFofv 1145220820 Received: from bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC228003 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:53:40 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:54:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416203823.BA96F28469@porsche.brendan.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20060416203823.BA96F28469@porsche.brendan.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604162154.08053.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:54:30 -0000 On Sunday 16 April 2006 21:38, Brendan Grossman wrote: > I agree that it's not a great idea, but considering the software I'm using, > user files are stored in /var and /home. I don't know what percentage of > quotas users will use for emails, databases, or home dirs, and I don't want > to take a guess. If say they were to use a lot of their quota for > databases, then down the track I don't want to have the problem with /var > full but users still under their quota. > > By the way just did an install, and it boots fine with the swap, /tmp, / > structure. The default is to put most of the space under /usr and symlink /home to /usr/home. There's no reason why you can't extend this, and if you really must, put and /var and /tmp under /usr too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 20:57:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB3A16A401 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slas7713@yahoo.com) Received: from web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.125.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4AE343D48 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:57:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slas7713@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 62836 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Apr 2006 20:57:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OE29hihtN4MFQzjJp5fExD7fC8fWvlAcx1gvHOCy0JwqTCJbof+r7L4PptD4TexpltM8njv35qvdk2LMy1+i6rClkEAGUg1TQphREqlBZP9SEuHABZ6ehBsIZ6pGTsafiJ+PmtWqxKWo0eI5hDP9QnPZS5KHqoze5rTS5JgzGdQ= ; Message-ID: <20060416205742.62834.qmail@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.190.186.188] by web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:57:42 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:57:42 -0700 (PDT) From: steve lasiter To: free bsd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: gateway setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:57:43 -0000 I just moved into a new position and will be implementing a new network topology and I wanted to use the opportunity to introduce them to FreeBSD. I'll be setting up a FreeBSD gatewall/firewall with 3 NICs behind two networks. Say, fxp0-cable modem to nic1, fxp1-nic2 to a Microsoft Small Business Server 2003 box, and fxp2-nic3 to webserver and wireless. Gateway 10.0.0.1 The first 192.168.1.1/24 network will be gateway - SBS box - switch - LAN with 10 PCs. The second 192.168.10.1/24 network will be gateway - switch - wireless LAN and Windows 2003 box serving as a webserver. Leaves me room to grow on both. My questions: We currently have DSL but are moving to Cable for more speed and I'm trying to get two static IP addresses, one for each network. The reasoning is based on the way the SBS box takes over port 80 and 443 for internal purposes and it appears that redirection would be a mess with the webserver. Is the setup as simple as configuring each of fxp1 and fxp2 NICs to the private addresses and then using the same 10.0.0.1 gateway entries for all? Are there any out there that have set up successful topologies with two IPs and three NICs? What are some of the options and pitfalls? If I only have one IP available and need to direct to several websites on the one network and internal services (using ports 890 and 443) on the other network how can this be routed? All input is appreciated as usual. Steve L __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 21:01:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D2D16A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: from pinnacle.akherb.com (94-37-237-24.gci.net [24.237.37.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560B743D46 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:01:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id D67A55D01; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:01:50 -0800 (AKDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pinnacle.akherb.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.2.160] (209-124-141-064.ip.arctic.net [209.124.141.64]) by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3544A5C9B; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:01:48 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Mangohealth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:01:34 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416205147.6544228454@porsche.brendan.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20060416205147.6544228454@porsche.brendan.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart23373205.csXII6xODn"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200604161301.46391.beech@mangohealth.org> Cc: Brendan Grossman Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:01:51 -0000 --nextPart23373205.csXII6xODn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 16 April 2006 12:51, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beech Rintoul [mailto:beech@mangohealth.org] > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 6:19 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Cc: Brendan Grossman > > Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive > > > > On Sunday 16 April 2006 12:38, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > > > It's not a good idea to put everything on the / filesystem. > > > > At a minimum I would have: > > > > / > > > > swap > > > > /var > > > > /usr > > > > > > > > Your users will not fill up /var unless you allow them unlimited > > > > mail, databases or access to root. > > > > > > They will have unlimited access up until their quota has > > > > been reached. > > > > > Where they use that quota is anyone's guess. > > > > > > > User's tempfiles will go to /usr/tmp. > > > > > > How does that work? I just checked /tmp, and it's not a symlink. > > > > Copy the contents of /tmp to /usr/tmp then remove /tmp and > > symlink /usr/tmp to /tmp. > > Yes, may I ask what the point is though? > > Here is my reason for separating /tmp and mounting it noexec,nosuid: > > http://www.sagonet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3D2852 > Having a separate /tmp slice is not a bad idea, combining /, /usr, and /var= is=20 unless you're doing a very minimal install. Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@mangohealth.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Mangohealth \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - XanGo - http://www.mangohealth.org =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart23373205.csXII6xODn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEQrC62TFLCHYGSF0RAi4JAJkBG8yI7KT8uq7q3mg+PfZoHxDTowCffZeg VGC3qbkzYT5ymd5s9j/dFmc= =xxdX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart23373205.csXII6xODn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 21:04:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06D716A403 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137D643D53 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:04:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.internal (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0E2D4C2A9 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.152]) by frontend2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:04:25 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: QeTI068rSGuny2pHqnTEkWux/gTgx+uuPPpJp2X2JBUU 1145221465 Received: from bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9689B800B for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:04:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416205147.6544228454@porsche.brendan.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20060416205147.6544228454@porsche.brendan.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604162204.53783.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:04:56 -0000 On Sunday 16 April 2006 21:51, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beech Rintoul [mailto:beech@mangohealth.org] > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 6:19 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Cc: Brendan Grossman > > Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive > > > > On Sunday 16 April 2006 12:38, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > > > It's not a good idea to put everything on the / filesystem. > > > > At a minimum I would have: > > > > / > > > > swap > > > > /var > > > > /usr > > > > > > > > Your users will not fill up /var unless you allow them unlimited > > > > mail, databases or access to root. > > > > > > They will have unlimited access up until their quota has > > > > been reached. > > > > > Where they use that quota is anyone's guess. > > > > > > > User's tempfiles will go to /usr/tmp. > > > > > > How does that work? I just checked /tmp, and it's not a symlink. > > > > Copy the contents of /tmp to /usr/tmp then remove /tmp and > > symlink /usr/tmp to /tmp. > > Yes, may I ask what the point is though? > > Here is my reason for separating /tmp and mounting it noexec,nosuid: > > http://www.sagonet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2852 Then have it as a separate partition, this has no relevance to your situation at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 21:19:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730C816A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF6743D4C for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:19:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr8so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.101]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IXU00CNN37V3030@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:19:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.148]) by pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IXU009HL37VZ660@pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:19:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.60] ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IXU008QL37U2ZH0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:19:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:19:04 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20060416205147.6544228454@porsche.brendan.id.au> To: Brendan Grossman Message-id: <4442B4C8.40602@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <20060416205147.6544228454@porsche.brendan.id.au> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:19:21 -0000 Brendan Grossman wrote: > Here is my reason for separating /tmp and mounting it noexec,nosuid: > > http://www.sagonet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2852 Quoth mount(8): noexec Do not allow execution of any binaries on the mounted file system. This option is useful for a server that has file systems containing binaries for architectures other than its own. Note: This option was not designed as a security feature and no guarantee is made that it will prevent malicious code execution; for example, it is still possible to execute scripts which reside on a noexec mounted partition. Mounting /tmp as noexec causes perfectly good code to gratuitously fail, while providing no real security improvement. Colin Percival FreeBSD Security Officer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 21:20:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3A516A403 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch (mailhub.unibe.ch [130.92.9.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B95B43D5F for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:20:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.5.62]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7842A3D101; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:20:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.70]) by localhost (scanhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.5.62]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14761-11; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:20:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F863D10B; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:20:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from droopy.unibe.ch (droopy [130.92.64.20]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3GLK6Ju006450; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:20:06 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from roth@localhost) by droopy.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id k3GLK5mv018140; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:20:05 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:20:05 +0200 From: Tobias Roth To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20060416212005.GA18100@droopy.unibe.ch> References: <20060416095608.GA17188@droopy.unibe.ch> <17474.20119.875374.97964@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17474.20119.875374.97964@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding root cert to openssl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:20:14 -0000 On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 10:03:03AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > Tobias Roth writes: > > > I'd like to add a certificate to OpenSSL. The OpenSSL HOWTO mentions > > OPENSSLDIR, which is /etc/ssl on FreeBSD (for OpenSSL from base). To > > have OpenSSL recognize a new certificate, it has to be put into > > OPENSSLDIR/certs/, but this does not exist on FreeBSD. The > > only certs/ dir I could find is /usr/src/crypto/openssl/certs/. > > > > So my question: How to add a certificate to OpenSSL on FreeBSD? > > Have you encountered any reason you can't just create the > directory yourself? It seems creating the dir, copying the cert file into there, and creating a hash symlink, as advised in the OpenSSL Howto, has no effect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 21:21:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE6116A406 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7C643D64 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:21:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao.barros@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so248468wxc for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:21:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qXOV0G69rHwzqRcayezMm74MobeZ/5DCuWIgyvzM/HLPcdaiRxeWETvNE4zA2TF7TckrMDw/BDxYZNh8kDU3ZTLXKLisVCbz7dGqZEAavnory7LTV20Y+LH1aej0x7tL7ZfYNVu3qVNE0uh6qAfhX4I0hqq5XYA3hoBSh/U8FTk= Received: by 10.70.11.3 with SMTP id 3mr4272932wxk; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.35.2 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <70e8236f0604161421l1fcb3ae1u8a2f013696313a6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:21:08 +0100 From: "Joao Barros" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Not receiving email from FreeBSD lists on Gmail for about 3 days X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:21:20 -0000 Hi all, I'm subscribed to several FreeBSD lists and I stopped receiving any email on my gmail account on the 13th. Anyone else experiencing this problem or the exact opposite, actually receiving mail on your gmail account? Please add me as a direct recipient for any response. My thanks in advance, -- Joao Barros From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 21:30:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EA116A408 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from porsche.brendan.id.au (219-90-174-213.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.174.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED1943D49 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:30:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brendan@grossman.id.au) Received: from dvditnb1 (mint.brendan.local [192.168.2.10]) by porsche.brendan.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE14128454 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:00:41 +0930 (CST) From: "Brendan Grossman" To: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:00:49 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcZhmQ4J/LZgvHnQRYOEOrmaS9cAIAAAjk/A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <200604161301.46391.beech@mangohealth.org> Message-Id: <20060416213041.EE14128454@porsche.brendan.id.au> Subject: RE: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:30:44 -0000 > Having a separate /tmp slice is not a bad idea, combining /, > /usr, and /var is unless you're doing a very minimal install. I can separate /usr, but my goal is to combine /home and /var, or at least where mail and databases are stored, for reasons already mentioned. I suppose I could do this... / 5gb swap 4gb /tmp 1gb /usr 70gb Then /home -> /usr/home, /var -> /usr/var Or create a 60gb partition and call it /users Then /var/mail -> /users/mail, /var/dbdir -> /users/dbdir The drive is 80gb (effectively 74ish), and 60gb of it must be for users (using either /var or /home) I suppose it is a bit better. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 21:44:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F90116A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA63943D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:44:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.internal (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1690D4C2F6 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.152]) by frontend2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:44:09 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: +g//C6VACZckBRuH2FwpExsvlTQ+Jqv2Hg5rik+hlqqg 1145223848 Received: from bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B831E7FFF for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:44:08 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:44:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416213041.EE14128454@porsche.brendan.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20060416213041.EE14128454@porsche.brendan.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604162244.36954.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:44:40 -0000 On Sunday 16 April 2006 22:30, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > Having a separate /tmp slice is not a bad idea, combining /, > > /usr, and /var is unless you're doing a very minimal install. > > I can separate /usr, but my goal is to combine /home and /var, or at least > where mail and databases are stored, for reasons already mentioned. > > I suppose I could do this... > > / 5gb That's far too big, my / has 166MB on it, including a substantial amount of cruft. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 21:51:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5447916A400; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048E543D48; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:51:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3GLppXK018277; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:51:52 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:51:55 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416205147.6544228454@porsche.brendan.id.au> <4442B4C8.40602@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4442B4C8.40602@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200604161451.55744.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Brendan Grossman , Colin Percival Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:51:58 -0000 On Sunday 16 April 2006 14:19, Colin Percival wrote: > Brendan Grossman wrote: > > Here is my reason for separating /tmp and mounting it > > noexec,nosuid: > > > > http://www.sagonet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2852 > > Quoth mount(8): > noexec Do not allow execution of any binaries on the > mounted file system. This option is useful for a server that has > file systems containing binaries for architectures other than its > own. Note: This option was not designed as a security feature and no > guarantee is made that it will prevent malicious code execution; for > example, it is still possible to execute scripts which reside on a > noexec mounted partition. > > Mounting /tmp as noexec causes perfectly good code to gratuitously > fail, while providing no real security improvement. Including weird system or port update failures. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project". http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 22:08:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AD116A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: from pinnacle.akherb.com (94-37-237-24.gci.net [24.237.37.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD4F43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:08:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@mangohealth.org) Received: by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 796715D01; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:08:07 -0800 (AKDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pinnacle.akherb.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [192.168.2.160] (209-124-141-064.ip.arctic.net [209.124.141.64]) by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A715C9B; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:08:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Mangohealth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:07:44 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060416213041.EE14128454@porsche.brendan.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20060416213041.EE14128454@porsche.brendan.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1839584.kPyEOmq0VJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200604161408.04461.beech@mangohealth.org> Cc: Brendan Grossman Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:08:08 -0000 --nextPart1839584.kPyEOmq0VJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 16 April 2006 13:30, Brendan Grossman wrote: > > Having a separate /tmp slice is not a bad idea, combining /, > > /usr, and /var is unless you're doing a very minimal install. > > I can separate /usr, but my goal is to combine /home and /var, or at least > where mail and databases are stored, for reasons already mentioned. > > I suppose I could do this... > > / 5gb > swap 4gb > /tmp 1gb > /usr 70gb > > Then /home -> /usr/home, /var -> /usr/var > > Or create a 60gb partition and call it /users > > Then /var/mail -> /users/mail, /var/dbdir -> /users/dbdir > > The drive is 80gb (effectively 74ish), and 60gb of it must be for users > (using either /var or /home) > > I suppose it is a bit better. If /home is symlinked to /usr/home, then use a MTA that will deliver mail=20 to /home/user/mail. Databases are stored in /var/db for security reasons, b= ut=20 there's no reason you can't configure whatever db you're using to store=20 database files in /usr. The reason for having a separate /var partition is = in=20 the event of a filesystem crash or you get hacked it's much easier to resto= re=20 important files. The same holds true for /etc (which is part of /). Doing a= =20 restore of /usr just to get the system going again could take quite a while= =20 and trying to restore to non-standard locations is guaranteed to give you=20 some grief. While there is no "standard" filesystem layout on *nix systems,= =20 the recommended layout is tried and true and will be much easier to=20 troubleshoot without having to translate help documents to your custom setu= p. 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Administrator - beech@mangohealth.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Mangohealth \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - XanGo - http://www.mangohealth.org =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart1839584.kPyEOmq0VJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEQsBE2TFLCHYGSF0RAvitAJ4t+7hxs8dnJXN355dW23S5hG9ktwCdESNc wPyZyDoxMJPbV3/cOxn308Y= =7nYA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1839584.kPyEOmq0VJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 16 22:23:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34B716A400 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f21.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A105443D45 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:23:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:23:12 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 62.150.140.44 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:23:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.150.140.44] X-Originating-Email: [dead_line@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dead_line@hotmail.com From: "Marwan Sultan" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:23:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Apr 2006 22:23:12.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[5952B080:01C661A4] Cc: Subject: ssh to Freebsd 6.1 (help) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:23:12 -0000 Hello, I just fresh installed FreeBSD 6.0R, The box connected to a hub and 1 more computer XP connected to same HUB, on my home LAN, both can ping/replay each other, both NIC interfaces are up. XP is the internet gateway. 192.168.0.1 and BSD is 192.168.0.2 The problem is when i Open my SecureCRT in XP and try to SSH (using SSH2) to FreeBSD it never goeson, and on /var/messages always says its timedout. during installation I choose to run SSH, also after the fresh install i checked /etc/inetd.conf and i removed the # from the SSH line, then restarted the inetd.conf, but also the same! I never faced such thing on 4.x, and i heard from somewhere that between SecureCRT and FreeBSD more than 5.x i have to change something in ssh configuration in the box, Anyhelp please? Marwan. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/g