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Date:      Fri, 03 Jan 1997 07:48:00 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch)
Cc:        jkh@freefall.freebsd.org (Jordan K. Hubbard), CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-usrsbin@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/syslogd syslogd.c 
Message-ID:  <23460.852306480@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 03 Jan 1997 11:49:03 %2B0100." <Mutt.19970103114903.j@uriah.heep.sax.de> 

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I'll simply back this out of -current and 2.2 in the next few hours.
No harm done, sorry - I wasn't aware of the savecore dependencies
(how gross! :).

If the syslogd death problem were easy to catch, we'd probably have
it fixed by now tho.. :(


> As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > jkh         97/01/02 23:13:23
> > 
> >   Modified:    usr.sbin/syslogd  syslogd.c
> >   Log:
> >   Unlink LogName before attempting to open it.  Since we now have a lovely
> >   bug in syslogd which causes it to die after random amounts of time (widel
y
> >   reported), this at least allows the administrator to easily restart it
> >   without wondering why it simply exits again each time.
> 
> This change is wrong.  We've been there before, and deliberately
> decided to keep the unlike out, and leave this to /etc/rc, or to the
> admin to do it.  Right now, you've broken logging from savecore(8)
> which writes to the syslog socket before syslogd is running.  sysylogd
> used to be able to extract its messages from the socket buffer
> previously (maybe months ago).
> 
> Don't work around bugs by introducing new bugs.  If syslogd dies, it
> must be investigated.  Mine didn't yet, but i've noticed:
> 
> Jan  1 16:34:09 uriah syslogd: /dev/: Is a directory
> Jan  1 16:34:09 uriah last message repeated 3 times
> 
> ...without knowing what went wrong.
> 
> Too bad that you've also instantly merged this to 2.2.  Changes of
> this kind should at least be discussed and run in -current for a week
> or two before.
> 
> -- 
> cheers, J"org
> 
> joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE
> Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)




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