From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 08:04:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F9E106566B; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0575D8FC0A; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so7384053gxk.19 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:04:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AbsrC1UuyOVeiiDSKnC6vt5ONuP0nN/qzwLKd4f3lhM=; b=jm3JVmzgVlMissJJTjFXEY0LRDBBpgtJ/AB7wDD9ggT2mOlbZiisostLf8XPJsiMis V1grlv9Mra18RmVk4M3+BSukmX62xR324FQGFuu7Uuc+YoBSv6PCcdkUeUscuaFRo2eR Tz+hR077h2cnbpnl8GUFIJBmkDkeH2DzCmpBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DBTPI6VQ1ku4hd6Peis8/g+JwIiP7tlSCcfUbahrgxzgBkloP/B5QulUY4yN1pjjHX nrMlxKITbneUax42IU7ZaUcFU0VxzssxyIY2vJNFDIwZEAx6AKnnNSm5gP5QYfMzOTNZ 67TkhIIeDKTNndNftyKKd40trgKzIqw0LN3Ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.120.19 with SMTP id s19mr407agc.55.1236153846243; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:04:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <584bfc3f0903032212x25831c5bi35d9b637c1896e1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2fd864e0903020512i22b2c31fg487aaf37fed6398b@mail.gmail.com> <20090302.132522.-432836388.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090302233215.GA53763@duncan.reilly.home> <20090302.181513.1973603215.imp@bsdimp.com> <584bfc3f0903030833k70405609q7e2d3b28c8cf4c29@mail.gmail.com> <20090303180307.GA11134@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <584bfc3f0903032212x25831c5bi35d9b637c1896e1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:04:06 -0800 Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0903040004y1fcbb086i355cd0113717620b@mail.gmail.com> From: Garrett Cooper To: Mike Telahun Makonnen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org, Brooks Davis , astrodog@gmail.com, usb@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: The rc.d mess strikes back X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:04:08 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Mike Telahun Makonnen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Brooks Davis wrote: >> >> I don't have much time to debug this, but I've not had problems with >> services starting too early on the systems I've been running with async >> dhcp. =A0If there is a problem with the wait process we need to actually >> debug it. =A0If the wait for a route/running interface isn't sufficent w= e >> should try to figure out what is. =A0Synchronous dhcp sucks and yeilds >> justifed user complaints so it would be nice to kill it off. =A0I switch= ed >> the default because it worked for me and I hoped that people would help >> find and fix edge cases. > > Can you elaborate why synchronous DHCP sucks ? The only reason I could see is bringup time. Am I correct in this assumptio= n? >> >> BTW, the change to background by default still doesn't make sense to >> me. =A0At best it shouldn't do anything useful in the async case and it >> entierly defeats the sync case. >> > > Yeah, I realized this as soon as people started complaining about the > changes and reverting that commit didn't fix their problem. I'll back > it out. Thanks :), -Garrett