From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon May 11 18:31:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04072 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:31:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail3.mailsorter.net (mail3.mailsorter.net [207.67.128.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04046 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kriston@ibm.net) Received: from slip.dc.us.ibm.net ([166.72.74.46]) by mail3.mailsorter.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA14490 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:30:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:16:52 -0400 Message-ID: <2980-Mon11May1998211652-0400-kriston@ibm.net> From: kriston@ibm.net (Kriston J. Rehberg) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: chain letter proposal In-Reply-To: <3555B16A.EB1E288D@ibm.net> References: <199805100914.LAA02183@greenpeace.grondar.za> <3555B16A.EB1E288D@ibm.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No chain letters, please. Did you get this idea from those "Bill Gates will give each of us a free copy of Windows 98" chain letters? Email surveys are just wrong. The questionnaire when you install FreeBSD is bad enough. When I saw that at the end of my installation, I got the feeling that the FreeBSD people were begging for some kind of acceptance. That's pathetic. The product should speak for itself -- for example, it should be a one-step installation process that actually knows when and when not to use PS/2 mice (my copy of 2.2.5 had no clue) and can actually allow me to tell it what IRQ my NE2000 card lives on, or maybe probe it (it didn't do either of those). I had no idea at the time that I had to rebuild my kernel just to get a stupid PS/2 mouse and a NE2000 card working correctly, and I've been using Unix in various forms for almost ten years now. I mean, really, PS/2 mice and NE2000 cards are among the very most popular and standard PC components for at least a couple of years. All of the Linux distributions automatically took care of these simple details, just to name two examples. Of course, we're far ahead of NetBSD in that area, but that's like saying our VW Rabbit goes faster than their Yugo. Rather than searching for acceptance, the product should be polished. Because FreeBSD has a singular distribution source with a central authority (along with established distribution channels and way-cool FTP installation and public CVS), it has the unique ability to publish a one-disk-fits-all product that can be plonked into any old, dust-collecting 486 PC and magically turn it into a file server, firewall, or hobby box... to say nothing of huge enterprise servers! Let's push for that and stop talking about propaganda schemes. The news will get out on its own. Linux already has a very poor reputation among those in-the-know due to the many and disparate distributions out there (especially with the current flack about migrating to glibc2 -- the author of one Linux distribution refuses to do it, while RedHat has already hacked up an early beta of glibc2 which makes its binaries incompatible with all other Linuxes). FreeBSD is in the perfect position for standardization, too. Let's go for it! Regards, Kris Don Wilde writes: >> >> ... apart from the fact that many ISP's ban any form of chain letter. >> >I'll modify the text to be more specific in intent. Obviously, we don't >want this broadcast because once the hordes from The Other Side were to >get it, I'd be mailbombed with '-500' letters. I don't want it _posted_ >anywhere but freebsd-questions. Where it goes from there I would hope >would be friend to friend. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > -- Kriston J. Rehberg AOL: Kriston http://kriston.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message