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Date:      Sun, 1 Mar 1998 02:14:27 -0500 (EST)
From:      James <jamesh@etsu.edu>
To:        Mark Mayo <mark@vmunix.com>
Cc:        zjhh2@Access.ETSU.Edu, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jhhiggins@prodigy.net, mark@vnode.vmunix.com
Subject:   Re: newbies mailing list
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980301021209.11140A-100000@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <19980301020451.35068@vmunix.com>

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On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Mark Mayo wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 01:29:41AM -0500, James wrote:
> > On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Mark Mayo wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 04:14:07PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
> > > > On Sun,  1 March 1998 at 16:22:32 +1100, Sue Blake wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 01:32:34PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
> > > > >> On Sun,  1 March 1998 at 10:56:51 +1100, Sue Blake wrote:
> 
> You know this will be a hot topic when you see something like
> this above. And all in a few hours :-)

Yeah really...

> 
> > > 
> > > [See the thread for the rest of the discussion :)]
> > > 
> > > I think a -newbies wouldn't necessairly be bad (in this statement
> > > I'm admitting that my initial reaction was: yeah, right..). It
> > > might direct the truly simple questions away from -questions,
> > > which might in turn become the generic questions list for everyone.
> > > 
> > > Right now, if it's a newbie question, it goes to -questions. If the
> > > question is moderately advanced, it goes to -hackers when it should
> > > really go to -questions IMHO. So I guess I'm saying that adding
> > > a -newbies list might help successfully 3-tier the lists into
> > > something a little more logical. Maybe not.. 
> > 
> > I think that is somewhat of an ideal situation.  I think this could also
> > tend to run into the same overlap problems that Greg mentions on his web
> > page. (http://www.lemis.com/questions.html)
> 
> Most certaily an ideal situation, but since things are far from
> ideal right now, I think giving it a shot and seeing how it turns
> out is really the only way to know if adding a -newbies would
> improve the situation.

I may regret this statement later, but nothing is ever lost in trying...
:)
 
> > 
> > That bieng too generic questions for -newbies, and overly technical
> > questions for -questions.
> 
> IMO, no question is too technical for -questions. I prefer to
> interpret the -questions name as meaning "any questions you might
> have about the operations of FreeBSD go here". So almost anything
> is fair game for -questions. -hackers should be reserved for
> hackers (i.e. code, kernel *source* questions and such).

Yeah, but shouldn't kernel development questions be directed at -hackers
not -questions?  That was what I meant by overly technical for -questions.
I guess I should have clarified.

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> 


James


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