From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 25 17:16:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C8D1065677 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE5118FC19 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6678 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2011 17:16:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2011 17:16:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=cjADWELRrf5BHVosejO3epFra0iHscnk49dD3vkPC78IWjjWt7jdnhhIbA6jn5b3CRFE/uCzxBZCoQ/ig9CIBgoQxR0TVk/aa7AQiUoAgkIzCRnbJIrg0aWTzCpCXlRb; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QlOlD-0001hW-Hz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:16:08 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:59:15 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:59:15 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110725165915.GB87314@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <375e5bcac1acd4b781ef97bd1718e689.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> <20110721161356.GI5129@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110721165801.GC69370@guilt.hydra> <4e2c2125.yS7H/hVUm1ebTrPE%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4E2CB85C.1090106@dichotomia.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E2CB85C.1090106@dichotomia.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:16:10 -0000 --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 02:27:08AM +0200, Jerome Herman wrote: > > Most androids phone already do have a quite useful and complete shell, > the main problem is that most phone are actually root locked. Namely > you cannot get any access to nay interesting without getting an "access > denied". There are tools that will break this "protection" and grant > you root access on the phone, but they are to be used with caution, and > most of the time you must first degrade your OS to an older version in > order for them to work. It's worse than that. Android does not, by default, give access to some very basic tools to which even non-root users are accustomed to having access. Consider cat, for instance. >=20 > So the problem is not a missing app, it is more of the usual "vendor=20 > lock" stuff. There's that -- but there's also a lot of missing applications. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4toOMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW98wCg7NenGpfM4H4X+SFdic4todke hCEAn1n7gP2XKrEUaCHbryy45MsoTJOT =5EqU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2--