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Date:      Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:36:49 -0500
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Alan Cox <alc@freebsd.org>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Tracking down what has inact pages locked up
Message-ID:  <532910D1.3010704@denninger.net>
In-Reply-To: <201403181730.02471.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <53260B36.2070409@denninger.net> <201403181505.47349.jhb@freebsd.org> <5328A024.6050901@denninger.net> <201403181730.02471.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On 3/18/2014 4:30 PM, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:36:04 pm Karl Denninger wrote:
>> On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, John Baldwin wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:36:06 pm Karl Denninger wrote:
>>>> Is there a reasonable way to determine who or what has that memory
>>>> locked up -- and thus why the vm system is not demoting that space i=
nto
>>>> the cache bucket so it can be freed (which, if my understanding is
>>>> correct, should be happening long before now!)
>>> I have a hackish thing (for 8.x, might work on 10.x) to let you figur=
e out
>>> what is using up RAM.  This should perhaps go into the base system at=
 some
>>> point.
>>>
>>> Grab the bits at http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/vm_objects/
>>>
>>> You will want to build the kld first and use 'make load' to load it. =
 It adds
>>> a new sysctl that dumps info about all the VM objects in the system. =
 You can
>>> then build the 'vm_objects' tool and run it.  It can take a while to =
run if
>>> you have NFS mounts, so I typically save its output to a file first a=
nd then
>>> use sort on the results.  sort -n will show you the largest consumer =
of RAM,
>>> sort -n -k 3 will show you the largest consumer of inactive pages.  N=
ote
>>> that 'df' and 'ph' objects are anonymous, and that filename paths are=
n't
>>> always reliable, but this can still be useful.
>>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I suspect the cause of the huge inact consumption is a RAM leak in the=

>> NAT code in IPFW.  It was not occurring in 9.2-STABLE, but is on
>> 10.0-STABLE, and reverting to natd in userland stops it -- which
>> pretty-well isolates where it's coming from.
> Memory for in-kernel NAT should be wired pages, not inactive.
Yeah, should be. :-)

But..... it managed to lock up 19GB of the 24GB the system has in inact=20
pages over 12 hours, and dropping the system to single user and=20
unloading the modules did not release the RAM...... which is why the=20
question (on how to track down what the hell is going on.)

Changing the config back to natd as opposed to in-kernel NAT, however,=20
made the problem disappear.

--=20
-- Karl
karl@denninger.net



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