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Date:      Sat, 17 May 2008 15:08:35 -0400
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org>
To:        Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>
Cc:        freebsd-usb@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: USB HID parser
Message-ID:  <482F2D33.1020409@telenix.org>
In-Reply-To: <482F2839.2050008@telenix.org>
References:  <482B4C79.3030100@telenix.org>	<200805142321.08246.freebsd-usb@dino.sk>	<482B8D96.2090409@telenix.org>	<20080515092911.a4ab2e5b.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <482F2839.2050008@telenix.org>

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Chuck Robey wrote:
> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
>> Hello, 
> 
>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 21:10:46 -0400
>> Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org> wrote:
> 
>>> After getting no response to any requests for any feedback (like
>>> alpha test, but about either the protocol features, OR the
>>> accessibility of the UI) I begin to wonder if there is really any
>>> interest pool for this.  Unless I get at least *some* feedback, I
>> Migt I respectfully suggest that no response is because you did the
>> "show and tell2 backwards?
>> I think you would have gotten more responses if your mail had included
>> a link to a place on the net where the tool could be downloaded.
> 
>> I'll use myself as an example: for my personal use, I use and test lots
>> of usb devices on FreeBSD (what can I say - I am a gadget freak), so I
>> am a bit interested.
>> But asking for something in a mail is just so 90'es.
>> I prefer to get my programs, source, and information off the net.
> 
>> Just my 20 eurocents (and written with a light twinkle of humor in my
>> eye).
> 
> 
>>> will make it available, but no port.  Geeze, it doesn't need one!  If
>> Any tool worth anything _deserves_ a port. And it helps with exposure,
>> as has been said elsewere in this thread.
> 
>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I will have even one FreeBSDer who wants
>>> it,  Might get rid of a couple of Linux versions.  I hate to admit
>> I want it - butt _not_ in my mail, please. Put it up somehwere on the
>> net and tell us about it.
> 
>>> that it works just as well on Windows, darn it.  Maybe I could figure
>>> out how to break it for Windows, what do you say?
>> I don't care about windows one way or the other (I use it for work
>> because Ihave to, not because I like or prefer it).
> 
> OK, let me cover all the suggestions.  First, the name, fine, I renamed it to
> uhidParser, and the current version is 0.2 (will hit 1.0 if I ever get any
> feedback, else it's stay where it is).  You can pic up a copy at:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~chuckr/vofr/python/uhidParser-0.2.tbz

Crap. I typo'ed the url, hat vofr was meant to be "code, so here it is again:

http://people.freebsd.org/~chuckr/code/python/uhidParser-0.2.tbz

> 
> Lastly, the port.  I have, for a great long time, really felt very wrong, that
> items that needed no adaptation (or 'porting') received ports.  Once, I even saw
> a one liner, truly simple C program get a port, merely to encourage a new
> programmer (if I remember right, it converted DOS carriage returns to Unix
> ones), and I just felt that such a truly simple thing was abuse of the port
> project.  That's my own belief.  I don't try to push my beliefs upon you, do I?
>  So, please, don't try it push them on me.  When I do a port of something, or
> when I write something that needs some help in compiling for non-techies, then
> I'll port it, but it's just too simple, it even includes it's own help info,
> it's just making no real use of the ports tools to make a port of it.  I went
> ahead and gave you a URL, I agree there, but not on the port, not for a thing
> like this.
> 
> I can't stop you from porting it, I know that, but I wish you wouldn't.  It's
> just not port material.  OK, if you want to continue the argument, do it
> privately, I won't respond publicly any more about it.  No Flamefests, least not
> because of me.
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