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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2001 21:33:25 -0400
From:      Shannon <>
To:        Technical Information <>
Cc:        FreeBSD Advocacy <>
Subject:   Re: [dn-core] Re: Perens' "Free Software Leaders Stand Together"
Message-ID:  <>
In-Reply-To: <>; from on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:17:55PM -0400
References:  <000001c0e028$20147860$> <> <000001c0e028$20147860$> <> <>

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On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:17:55PM -0400, Technical Information wrote:
> I'm not sure I see the difference.  You have to figure that if he thinks 
> Mach is crap, and MacOS X is derived from Mach, then he thinks that MacOS X 
> is crap.  It's like saying "He didn't call Pavarotti stupid.  He said 
> Italians are stupid."  Let's not ignore the context of the quotation.

MacOS X is not derived from Mach. It uses Mach, but it is derived from
FreeBSD 3.2.

It's more like he said he hated Italian shoes. "Oh, he hates opera
because Pavarotti is part of the opera, and he's wearing Italian shoes!"

I think this is just a case of the media looking for news where there is
none. This is ten year old news at best.

> Besides, I don't think anyone is faulting Mr. Torvalds for having his 
> opinion.  But his public handling of it is still pretty poor given his 
> status and the weight his comments carry.

What public handling? The media gave you a sound bite that may very well
have been part of a 30 minute discussion, the full disclosure of which
might end the debate completely. He cannot "handle" every little spin
the media puts on his words. No one can.

I'm curious about what he thinks of MacOS X specifically, but until
someone asks, "Linus, what is your opinion on MacOS X and it's FreeBSD
3.2 foundation", and he answers, we have no idea.

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