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Date:      Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:48:09 -0800
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
To:        "Arno J. Klaassen" <arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>, Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 8.2-PRERELEASE freezing on reboot (-current OK)
Message-ID:  <20101214224809.GA53593@icarus.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <wpr5dkt2kr.fsf@heho.snv.jussieu.fr>
References:  <wpaake0y03.fsf@heho.snv.jussieu.fr> <20101210100230.GA25419@icarus.home.lan> <wp1v5ljsdf.fsf@heho.snv.jussieu.fr> <59F3B2944C764A36B912E6B50B4D4DD9@multiplay.co.uk> <20101214003825.GA13836@icarus.home.lan> <4D0777B3.5020208@freebsd.org> <wpr5dkt2kr.fsf@heho.snv.jussieu.fr>

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On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:24:52PM +0100, Arno J. Klaassen wrote:
> Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org> writes:
> 
> > on 14/12/2010 02:38 Jeremy Chadwick said the following:
> >> 1) 
> > [snip]
> >> Also try dropping to the
> >> debugger via serial console (serial break) or VGA (Ctrl-Alt-Esc).
> >
> > This is a good advice.
> 
> may be ;-) but the box realy freezes, no way to drop into the debugger
> nor via serial (ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER compiled as well) nor
> via VGA/PS2 ... realy frozen

Bummer.  It sounds like it's a regression of some kind, since your
original mail stated this problem has been happening for you on RELENG_8
(8.x) for quite some time.  (I have to assume it didn't happen for you
at all on 7.3 or prior).

Would it be possible for you to dedicate some time narrowing down when
the problem was introduced?

A good starting point might be to try 8.0-RELEASE and then 8.1-RELEASE
(just download + burn + boot livefs images and try that).  If it happens
on 8.1-RELEASE but not 8.0, then we've at least narrowed down the
timeframe.

It might also be worth trying the same with 7.3-RELEASE vs. 7.4-BETA1
(which just came out) see if the same bug was introduced there as result
of an MFC.

Otherwise, numerous csups with different date= strings in your supfiles
and multiple buildworld/kernel/installs would be required.  I would
probably pick intervals of 4 months at first.

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| Jeremy Chadwick                                   jdc@parodius.com |
| Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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