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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:49:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Samplonius <tom@sdf.com>
To: Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>
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On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Stefan Esser wrote:

> On Jul 7, Tom Samplonius <tom@sdf.com> wrote:
> >   Also, the ncr controllers are little finicky.  They have a delay option
> > that I had to increase otherwise it wouldn't wait long enough for the
> > drives to spin up.  But I only had this problem on cold boots (never on
> > warm), and only with the ncr controllers.  The Adaptec controllers seem to
> > wait much longer by default.
> 
> The "NCR controllers" ???
> They don't exist ... :)

  Sure do.  Symbios has come down to my place and re-labeled my controlor,
and until they do, it will remain a NCR810.

> In fact, there are several independently developed BIOS
> versions offered with the various brands of NCR chip, 
> and even my (2.5 year old) ASUS SP3G lets you specify
> an additional power on delay ...

  I have a ASUS 3P3G too, and had to lengthen the delay for the 4 drives
I put on the internal SCSI bus.

...
> >   Quatum drives are known to go on a holiday after some continuous use.
> > Grand Prix drives are particularly bad.  In fact, I think the Atlas is the
> > only respectible Quantum drive.
> 
> How about the quality of the Atlas II and the Viking ?
> I don't really understand, why they offer two 7200RPM
> drives, again. Reminds me of the Atlas/Grand Prix ...

  The writing is on the wall for the Atlas II, now that the Atlas III is
available.

> Regards, STefan
> 
> 

Tom