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Date:      Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:43:42 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mnoGoSearch-current Makefile
Message-ID:  <20010416124342.A11258@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200104161939.MAA53486@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:39:56PM -0700
References:  <20010416121634.E10023@xor.obsecurity.org> <200104161939.MAA53486@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:39:56PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:06:23AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> >=20
> > > Also it seems as if -YOU- are the maintainer of apache, so please can
> > > you go fix it's abuse of nobody:nogroup.  (Hint: running as nobody:no=
group
> > > is _NOT_ the bug.)
> >=20
> > Well, arguably it is, because people persist in making files owned by
> > nobody, and since apache runs as that user a webserver compromise
> > gives access to all those files.  If it ran as e.g. user www, then
> > it's explicit which files it owns because that user is unlikely to be
> > used randomly outside a webserver context.
>=20
> I will agree that the running of of apache as nobody:nogroup is an
> arguable thing.  But running it as www:www and having all the files
> _owned_ and _grouped_ www:www only solves the NFS issue, and does
> not address the other problem of having your webserver being able
> to nuked it's own content via all too common cgi bugs.

Yeah, wwwserver might be better, with a default wwwdata user provided
to make it clear what data files should be owned by.

Kris

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