From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 20 19:07:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D004C87ABA for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 19:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57CF120E for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 19:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 26102 invoked by uid 110); 20 Dec 2016 19:07:18 -0000 Received: from ool-43549c41.dyn.optonline.net (HELO desktop1) (simon@optinet.com@67.84.156.65) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 20 Dec 2016 19:07:18 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "John Levine" Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:07:18 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;3) In-Reply-To: <20161219160517.18271.qmail@ary.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssl certificate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 19:07:25 -0000 On 19 Dec 2016 16:05:17 -0000, John Levine wrote: >>>Exactly like the root DNS servers. Do you have problems with those? >> >>No, not exactly. DNS root servers are paid for via domain fees (ICANN). >Misinformation like this is not helpful. >ICANN runs the L root. The other 12 are run by other organizations on >essentially a handshake basis, with no money changing hands. >>So when I find free domain registration service for my domains it will be >>just like LE, but until then... ya, I have a problem, I want it free! >You might enjoy .tk. Domains are free, $0. >In the meantime, sensible people are all getting their certs from >Let's Encrypt. >R's, >John Essentially? So when those organizations sell ISP related services, such as VeriSign running J server, that is not cost passed down to consumers, no? Or when ARMY runs one, the tax payers are not on the hook? of course not.. It's like *free* peering! No, it isn't free! both sides pay through their provided and paid-for consumer services. You probably think the country roads you drive on are free too because you don't receive a direct bill for them. Like I said, indirectly paid-for. .tk free, ya? well, ya, up to 12 months but for 1+ year there is a standard, not even subsidized fee! So ya, they want you to get the domain and then when you put it to use, of course you will continue to renew it at a fee! Who is spreading misinformation here. For testing purposes you can get some subdomain for free for limited time or even longer use in many places. When I asked about free domains, I was not asking up to 12 months. I meant free as in free, not some limited time BS free. Plus I want .com, .net not some sill .tk When you get free SSL does it say you are special next to it like .tk does? So again, still looking for free domains, servers, admins, and colocation. Maybe Amazon can hook me up with their cloud they make billions off of :D -Simon