From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jan 28 19:09:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06159 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:09:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06154 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from celeris (56k-port4019.ime.net [209.90.195.29]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id WAA75879; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:08:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.19990128215619.00a92d20@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:05:45 -0500 To: Eric Hodel , Kojak From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: This is outrageous Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36B0D0F8.260F9618@seattleu.edu> References: <36AF63DE.167EB0E7@i.am> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:04 PM 1/28/99 , Eric Hodel wrote: >Kojak wrote: >> >> This made me so angry, please spare a moment to check out >> this article:- >> >> http://www.mp3.com/news/159.html > >The original message was meant to be serious, but from the look of the >patents, that original message won't have any weight. The patents >describe a method of distributing digital streams of audio or video >(or whatever), which are not the same as MP3s, or any other compressed >file. Furthermore, you have to be selling digital streams in order to >come close to violating the patents, I think. (No patent expert am >I.) >From what I gathered we were talking DISTRIBUTION in those patents.. While I was over there I noticed a modified version of the A2B was dubbed "MP4". That is going to hit the fan. Supposedly they're trying to clean up the corruption that mp3 has brought. Give me a break, I'll just go old school and copy a cd if I wanted to screw anyone out of money. What bugs me is they say any sort of reverse grabbing of the audio will cause degregation. What stops me from digitally prodding my sound card's output and taking it in as an input stream? The thing is full-duplex, so I could do it. I'll just have to try and find out I guess. Mpeg-4 comes out later this year, I'll be interested to find what they 'call' it.. But also if the file sizes are going to drop significantly or not. Right now the average is about 4mb for a song at 128k/44khz/stereo. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message