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Date:      Mon, 18 Apr 2016 23:02:12 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, lev@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <20160418200212.GA4841@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20160418194010.GX1554@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <57152CE5.5050500@FreeBSD.org> <9D4B9C8B-41D7-42BC-B436-D23EFFF60261@ixsystems.com> <20160418191425.GW1554@FreeBSD.org> <571533B8.6090109@freebsd.org> <20160418194010.GX1554@FreeBSD.org>

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On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 07:40:10PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:21:28PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/18/16 12:14, Glen Barber wrote:
> > >On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:01:46PM -0700, Sean Fagan wrote:
> > >>On Apr 18, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> > >>>I understand, that maybe it is too late, but ARE YOU KIDDING?! 755
> > >>>packages?! WHY?! What are reasons and goals to split base in such
> > >>>enormous number of packages?
> > >>Just a guess, having done the same thing myself:  it means that updates can be
> > >>more targeted.
> > >>
> > >This is exactly the reason, which has been answered numerous times.
> > >
> > >Glen
> > >
> > 
> > That's a good reason -- and a very nice outcome of having base system
> > packages -- but I worry that it may be going too far. The most granular
> > updates would be if every file were its own package, which is obviously
> > crazy, and so there is some middle ground. Needing to grab a whole new
> > base.txz is probably too much (60 MB), but splitting that into even 6 or 7
> > pieces moves the updates to replacements with typical size (a few MB) that
> > are no larger than typical package updates for ports.
> 
> This granularity allows easy removal of things that may not be wanted
> (such as *-debug*, *-profile*, etc.) on systems with little storage.  On
> one of my testing systems, I removed the tests packages and all debug
> and profiling, and the number of base system packages is 383.

Easy select from list of 1k items?!
You kidding?





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