From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 7 16:25:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E508EE74982 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [IPv6:2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B014C6D08A for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (naddy@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1eYDkw-00057R-2B; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:25:06 +0100 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w07GMhm5086015; Sun, 7 Jan 2018 17:22:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w07GMgqR086014; Sun, 7 Jan 2018 17:22:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 17:22:42 +0100 From: Christian Weisgerber To: Ken Moffat Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Poor default fonts in Firefox Message-ID: <20180107162242.GA85530@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> References: <20171227174525.cc1e9047.freebsd@edvax.de> <20171227191445.GA11759@milliways.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20171227191445.GA11759@milliways.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 16:25:08 -0000 Ken Moffat: > > > You install a new FreeBSD machine with a graphics display, install > > > the xorg and firefox ports on it, all default options, start browsing > > > the web... and you see that some sites (e.g. http://www.bbc.com/news) > > > are presented with pixelated fonts like something out of the 1990s. > > > > > > What do you do? > > Actually, the choice of *which* fonts to use is a very personal > matter. Yes. It's like when you go into a bookstore and buy a book. You choose your personal font. > For anybody who uses fontconfig, tuning it to match your personal > preferences is the right thing to do. I don't use fontcontig. I mean, Firefox does. Or GTK+3. Or something in the graphics stack. But _I_ don't want to get involved. Like most people, I have no interest in typography. It's background. It's an issue I'm happy for other people to solve and I'll just use the end product. Apart from xterm "fixed", the Deja Vu fonts are probably those I've stared at the most over the last years, and without opening a window and checking I can't tell you what form of 'a' or 'g' they use. I only notice typography when there is something glaringly wrong with it. (Like the font changing partway through a book. Or some idiot typesetting a whole book in some decorative sans-serif font. Or Firefox using bitmap fonts.) Anyway, I guess from your point of view, using OpenBSD's 31-nonmst.conf is exactly the thing I should do. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de