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Date:      Fri, 9 May 2003 06:09:35 +0000
From:      Daniela <dgw@liwest.at>
To:        Teilhard Knight <teilhk@yifan.net>, "Vlad D.Markov" <markov@monmouth.com>, FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: I must be dummy
Message-ID:  <200305090609.35441.dgw@liwest.at>
In-Reply-To: <1052422739.5162.29.camel@arlette.love.dad>
References:  <000c01c31557$27ae7ab0$00cefea9@arlette> <20030508112711.48e35b47.markov@monmouth.com> <1052422739.5162.29.camel@arlette.love.dad>

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On Thursday 08 May 2003 19:38, Teilhard Knight wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 10:27, Vlad D.Markov wrote:
> > On Thu, 08 May 2003 16:36:08 +0200
> >
> > "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx> wrote:
> > > Teilhard Knight wrote:
> > >  > Well, I'm in Windows now. No pun intended, but I trust better $ill
> > >  > Gates' Control Panel, than any other OS hardware information tool.
> > >  >
> > >  > The Handbook and everybody makes feel it is such a simple
> > >  > straightforward procedure to build our kernel, that I feel a real
> > >  > dummy. I first post what I have done so far, and then my questions
> > >  > to you.
> > >  >
> > >  > Kernel:
> > >
> > > *snipped huge kernel config*
> > >
> > >  > I just added three entries:
> > >  >
> > >  > 1.- device            fxp0        # Intel PRO/100 VE Network
> > >  > Connection
> > >  >
> > >  > 2.- device  ulpt0  # hp DeskJet 845c
> > >  >
> > >  > 3.- device            pci1        # NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 64/64 pro
> > >  > (Ultra Vanta).
> > >  >
> > >  > Now, the first think I have difficulties with is with the right
> > >  > identification (the "code"? name) of the device. I have found
> > >  > nowhere that my mouse is fd0, but for Shantanu, who wrote to me. In
> > >  > the entry 3 above, "pci1" sounds to me, like socket PCI 1, not the
> > >  > identification of my device. But on dmesg.boot, the card is just
> > >  > spotted like that. Also, in parenthesis is how the card is
> > >  > detected, and how I wote it is how really the card is. I have
> > >  > looked where to find those codes and I have had no success.
> > >  >
> > >  > There are three things that remain to be configured.
> > >  >
> > >  > 1.- Sound card. It is a "Sound Max Integrated Digital Audio". This
> > >  > configuration strikes me as not simply an entry like the rest,
> > >  > because handles: a) Digital Audio, b) MIDI Devices, and c) Mixer
> > >  > Devices. There is also a Modem Wave Driver. And this and the Video
> > >  > card are bundled somehow to provide game controllers.
> > >  >
> > >  > 2.- An OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Firewire Port.
> > >  >
> > >  > 3.- An External dial-up USB modem. It's and Aztech UM9800-U.
> > >  > Drivers are provided for UNIX and Linux.
> > >  >
> > >  > I appreciate in advance the help you can spare.
> > >  >
> > >  > Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial
> > >  >
> > >  > Who ate my sandwich?
> > >
> > > First of all, you should not edit GENERIC, you should copy GENERIC to
> > > a name you decide, and then use that to modify your kernel.
> > > Second, you should not use numbers in device name. Instead of 'device
> > > fxp0' try just 'device fxp'. However, Im almost 100% sure fxp is in
> > > the GENERIC kernel so you should not have to add that yourself.
> > > I never use sound on my bsd machines, but try adding the pcm driver to
> > >
> > > your kernel, I've heard it should handle most soundcards.
> > > Try looking in the LINT file (/sys/i386/conf/LINT) for tips and
> > > pointer to all devices and their names.
> > >
> > > --
> > > R
> >
> > I found the easiest way to get sound working was to put: snd_load="YES"
> > into /boot/loader.conf. This loads every sound card driver as a module.
> >
> > On the next boot, /var/run/dmesg.boot will list which soundcard was
> > detected so you can just load the proper module next time instead of
> > all of them.
> >
> > The next thing to do is to make the sound device - that is explained
> > clearly in the FreeBSD handbook.
> >
> > As an aside, I just installed OpenBSD on a laptop. Sound was configured
> > on the first boot. Instead of adding drivers like in FreeBSD, I get to
> > remove them. Which way is better? - I don't pretend to know.
>
> Your approach is an appealing one. I just wish I knew how to spot the
> drivers loaded and be able to uninstall those I do not want. I'm not
> much knowledgeable in command-line operations, and GUI's like KDE are
> not like Mandrake's which have the software configuration and
> install-uninstall utilities.

You can use /stand/sysinstall for configuration. It's not a GUI, but it has a 
nice menu-driven interface. Should be easy for you.

Daniela




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