From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 10:27:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CE4106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-119.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-119.bluehost.com [69.89.22.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3C658FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 18248 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jan 2009 10:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 10:27:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=G6D673fT8k/gTOqQ7QC3obMjZvXWnVvv9PHdi4YxqOoGZ3KfneTwqwThhk20PjBW+VRXNMBwR3JelnXVg2bMRD3kAbzjObJfSPfzGJfvTPer4XdD2ratw1jXr6DpS+ED; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSU7c-000756-6s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:27:44 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:26:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:26:07 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090129102607.GB18583@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:42 -0000 --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 06:15:09PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 > > for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as=20 > > name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you > > use. >=20 > IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a > keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. I'm not sure how you mean that. I use AHWM on my FreeBSD laptop. It doesn't have desktop icons or menus or a taskbar or dock or whatever. It's lightweight, very responsive, and stays the heck out of my way. I use a mouse. I use it for copy/paste (middle click is my friend), I use it with my GUI applications, and I use it for controlling window size and position a lot of the time. I don't see how anything about using a lightweight window manager that doesn't clutter up my workspace with a bunch of unnecessary cruft makes it more difficult to use the mouse when it's appropriate and helpful to do so. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "Just don't create a file called -rf." --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmBhD8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX0YACeOGvTw6DFG+OL/FgkN2vrCD0Z +csAoOSgNmoSeYMDJBSI0wMGLFH81/Gj =qNxp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V--