From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 14 22:41:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE87E16A4BF for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.e-easy.com.au (eth0.lnk.e-easy.com.au [203.31.73.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857FC43FA3 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from postoffice.aims.com.au (nts-ts1.aims.private [192.168.10.2]) by postoffice.e-easy.com.au with ESMTP id h8F5Q61q050678 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:26:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from ntsts1 by aims.com.au (aims.com.au) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.9.0a.R) with ESMTP id 41-md50000000212.tmp for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:25:30 +1000 From: "Nigel Weeks" To: "'Randi Harper'" , "'FreeBSD Advocacy'" Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:25:29 +1000 Message-ID: <000901c37b49$c75a7890$020aa8c0@aims.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 X-Spam-Processed: aims.com.au, Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:25:30 +1000 (not processed: spam filter disabled) X-Return-Path: nigel@e-easy.com.au X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: advocacy@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: RE: FreeBSD Revamped Look 'n' feel: Feedback appreciated! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:41:35 -0000 ... People that judge > FreeBSD by > it's website, well, they can go back to their flash and glam > Microsoft > or RedHat sites. As far as I can tell, those people are going > to be the > ones that ask questions on the questions@ mailing lists > without looking > at the documentation first. That's about the level of stupidity and > laziness involved. Unfortunately, mentioning this is counter-productive when said in possible future client meetings...;-) Oh yeah, it's true. Too true. But what can you do? We need these people to survive... Perhaps...keep freebsd.org as it is, but build freebsd.com as the commercial/upper-management-tailored/abstracted from technical/whizz-bang site... I dunno. I just know it'd be easier to sell, if people were impressed from first glance. Seems shallow, yes, but might work?, maybe. Has anyone got better sales-tips, not tuned for sysadmins?