From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 17:38:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B8110900AE for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAB7807C5 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5B63BC84D; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7MHc2G4045619; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w7MHc23q045616; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable vs releng In-Reply-To: <20180822154439.e388b74673a183639554ff5e@sohara.org> Message-ID: References: <010327df-876b-dc05-e9ed-130f3e8decb0@ifdnrg.com> <20180822154439.e388b74673a183639554ff5e@sohara.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:38:10 -0000 On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:36 +0100 > Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> So no removal of drivers, no >> changes to ABIs, compatibility for 3rd party kernel modules across all >> the kernels in the branch etc. Some of that I think we're getting >> right, other bits we aren't doing so well with. > > nVidia > I do not understand. If the FreeBSD Desktop support model is a two story outhouse, XORG has always been on the top floor. At least that was my understanding. What am I missing?