From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 3:35:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7405B37B401 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:35:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f1IBZ3Z03490; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:35:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ernie) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <200102181135.f1IBZ3Z03490@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: Re: flow-tools port In-Reply-To: from Domas Mituzas at "Feb 16, 1 12:21:07 pm" To: domas.mituzas@delfi.lt (Domas Mituzas) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:35:03 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > flow-capture -z6 -E1G -c2 -w/var/flowdata > flow-capture -z9 -c2 -e48 -n23 -p15442 -w /opt/flowdata > > and it works fine. check if your process is running, also, syslog > entries. As you can see in my working example, I specified the port, to > which cisco is sending me it's messages (make sure, to which does yours > and specify also, it may help). > > > The program flow-receive seems to work, but I presume flow-capture is the > > heart of the thing. > > Both are working for me, both should work for you. > I tried the above but still no luck. I checked the syslogs and there was a message that might give a clue: flow-capture[23385]: setsockopt(SO_RCVBUF=246725): No buffer space available Any ideas? - Ernie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 12:40: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCF9937B401 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:39:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18944 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Feb 2001 20:39:57 +0000 (GMT) To: ernie@spooky.eis.net.au Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flow-tools port From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:35:03 +1000 (EST)" References: <200102181135.f1IBZ3Z03490@spooky.eis.net.au> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: <18942.982528797@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I tried the above but still no luck. I checked the syslogs and there was a > message that might give a clue: > > flow-capture[23385]: setsockopt(SO_RCVBUF=246725): No buffer space available > > Any ideas? I had to set the size manually. Patch for flow-tools-0.32 included below. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no ---------------------------------------------------------------------- *** flow-capture.c.orig Fri Jan 22 18:43:39 1999 --- flow-capture.c Sun Jul 23 19:40:52 2000 *************** *** 346,355 **** } /* socket buffer */ ! sendbuf = MAX_SOCKETBUF; if (setsockopt(fsockfd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVBUF, (char*)&sendbuf, sizeof (sendbuf)) < 0) { ! report(LOG_ERR, "setsockopt(SO_RCVBUF=%d): %s", MAX_SOCKETBUF, strerror(errno)); exit(1); } --- 346,357 ---- } /* socket buffer */ ! /* sendbuf = MAX_SOCKETBUF; */ ! sendbuf = 232448; if (setsockopt(fsockfd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVBUF, (char*)&sendbuf, sizeof (sendbuf)) < 0) { ! /* report(LOG_ERR, "setsockopt(SO_RCVBUF=%d): %s", MAX_SOCKETBUF, */ ! report(LOG_ERR, "setsockopt(SO_RCVBUF=%d): %s", 232448, strerror(errno)); exit(1); } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 14:15:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4479837B401 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from colba.net ([216.209.221.24]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010218221545.JAEM18941.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@colba.net> for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:15:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3A90499E.CECAE369@colba.net> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:15:59 -0500 From: Paul Khavkine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Distributed user info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, i'm looking for a way to maintain user information in a central database so it can be shared accross multiple boxes. I like the Kerberos 5 suthentication scheme but i need more then authentication. I need to redistribute stuff like usernames, passwords, uids, gids, etc... I could just use NIS but dont like sensitive information to be passed around in clear text and a lack of authentication other then by hostname/ip. What other alternatives to NIS are there, preferably tied with Kerberos 5 authentication? Thanx Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 14:22: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.numachi.com (numachi.numachi.com [198.175.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94F4837B491 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23936 invoked by uid 3001); 18 Feb 2001 22:22:03 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by numachi.numachi.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2001 22:22:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 85927 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Feb 2001 22:22:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:22:03 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: Paul Khavkine Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Distributed user info Message-ID: <20010218172203.C85795@numachi.com> References: <3A90499E.CECAE369@colba.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A90499E.CECAE369@colba.net>; from paul@colba.net on Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 05:15:59PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 05:15:59PM -0500, Paul Khavkine wrote: > Hi, i'm looking for a way to maintain user information in a central > database so it can be shared > accross multiple boxes. > I like the Kerberos 5 suthentication scheme but i need more then > authentication. > I need to redistribute stuff like usernames, passwords, uids, gids, > etc... > I could just use NIS but dont like sensitive information to be passed > around in clear text and a lack > of authentication other then by hostname/ip. > What other alternatives to NIS are there, preferably tied with Kerberos > 5 authentication? LDAP / Radius? I'm guessing... > > Thanx > Paul > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 14:42:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98E137B65D for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from colba.net ([216.209.221.24]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010218224240.HNZZ11345.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@colba.net>; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:42:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3A904FF1.F5C23ECE@colba.net> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:42:58 -0500 From: Paul Khavkine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Reichert Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Distributed user info References: <3A90499E.CECAE369@colba.net> <20010218172203.C85795@numachi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Reichert wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 05:15:59PM -0500, Paul Khavkine wrote: > > Hi, i'm looking for a way to maintain user information in a central > > database so it can be shared > > accross multiple boxes. > > I like the Kerberos 5 suthentication scheme but i need more then > > authentication. > > I need to redistribute stuff like usernames, passwords, uids, gids, > > etc... > > I could just use NIS but dont like sensitive information to be passed > > around in clear text and a lack > > of authentication other then by hostname/ip. > > What other alternatives to NIS are there, preferably tied with Kerberos > > 5 authentication? > > LDAP / Radius? I'm guessing... Not a big LDAP fan, but for RADIUS, how would you make all the programs using getpwnam() and the likes to get the info from RADIUS. Is there an NSS implementation for FreeBSD like the one for Solaris/Linux ? > > > > > > Thanx > > Paul > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert > 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 > Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 14:54:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ohm.physics.purdue.edu (ohm.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282D037B4EC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from will@localhost) by ohm.physics.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA84637; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:54:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ohm.physics.purdue.edu: will set sender to will@physics.purdue.edu using -f Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:54:15 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Paul Khavkine Cc: Jacques Vidrine , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Distributed user info Message-ID: <20010218175415.D83214@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <3A90499E.CECAE369@colba.net> <20010218172203.C85795@numachi.com> <3A904FF1.F5C23ECE@colba.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A904FF1.F5C23ECE@colba.net>; from paul@colba.net on Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 05:42:58PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 05:42:58PM -0500, Paul Khavkine wrote: > Not a big LDAP fan, but for RADIUS, how would you make all the programs u= sing > getpwnam() > and the likes to get the info from RADIUS. > Is there an NSS implementation for FreeBSD like the one for Solaris/Linux= ? There is one in -CURRENT; Jacques Vidrine is working on our nsswitch and hopefully it might be in 4.3-RELEASE. I'm still waiting for an updated patchset from him to try it out. I too want nsswitch. :-) --=20 wca --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6kFKWF47idPgWcsURAuqKAJ0dAidI+qU29spfozG8vCspiVyUzwCgj9/q uBt7L0eO+hPGZgE9KPlfiRI= =vjtQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 15:34:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [193.219.211.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74F937B503 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:34:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (midom@localhost) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1INYU493202; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:34:30 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:34:30 +0200 (EET) From: Domas Mituzas X-Sender: midom@axis.tdd.lt To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: ernie@spooky.eis.net.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: flow-tools port In-Reply-To: <18942.982528797@verdi.nethelp.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I had to set the size manually. Patch for flow-tools-0.32 included below. Sorry, pals, I did manual edit also, just it was too small to mention %) Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 15:43:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pop3.psinet.net.ar (pop3.psinet.net.ar [66.60.63.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A7337B4EC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from noc5.psi.com (noc5.isol.net.ar [200.0.208.45]) by pop3.psinet.net.ar (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1INfr061300 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:41:53 -0300 (ART) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010218204239.00b0e040@pop3.psinet.net.ar> X-Sender: william@pop3.psinet.net.ar X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:43:10 -0300 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: William Candido de Oliveira Subject: voodoo 5 !!!!!!!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi people, I go to buy a video board voodoo5 5.500 64mb AGP. For gentility, it would like to know if this board is compatible with the FreeBSD 4.2 REALEASE. Somebody ja tested it? it functions? Thanks! William To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 19:26: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA8C37B503 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA47707 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:24:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <005501c09a23$a4cc9e20$1800a8c0@d7k> From: "alex huppenthal" To: Subject: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:24:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to write a bit of PHP 4 script on FreeBSD. I can't seem to find a PHP 4 interpreter (/usr/ports/lang). the /usr/ports/lang/php code seems to be version 3? Any help is appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 19:43:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial1-2-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E3937B65D for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA94470 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:42:46 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:42:43 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 In-Reply-To: <005501c09a23$a4cc9e20$1800a8c0@d7k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, alex huppenthal wrote: > I'm trying to write a bit of PHP 4 script on FreeBSD. I can't seem to find a > PHP 4 interpreter (/usr/ports/lang). > > the /usr/ports/lang/php code seems to be version 3? > > Any help is appreciated. You could always try installing it from source... :) I've installed PHP 4.03pl1 with Apache 1.3.14, statically linked, with no problems at all. Note that Apache was also installed from source rather than via the ports collection. PHP 4.04pl1 with the same Apache doesn't want to work though: satin# ./httpd.NEW -f /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf Floating point exception (core dumped) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://info.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 20:21: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3398C37B491 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA01801; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:20:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from confusion.net (dhcp089069.res-hall.nwu.edu [199.74.89.69]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma001618; Sun, 18 Feb 01 22:20:25 -0600 Message-ID: <3A909F0D.549C38D1@confusion.net> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:20:29 -0600 From: Laurence Berland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clark Shishido Cc: Peter Brezny , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Clark Shishido wrote: > it's the lovely magic of DDNS which is part of ActiveDirectory. > default Windows2000 Server installation turns it on by default. > you're going to have to learn some Windows2000. Specifically, you've got some registry digging to do. I am pretty sure there is no checkbox or control panel to set this on, and of course no config files (dont it make you wish everything was UNIX?) -- Laurence Berland Intern, Flooz.com Northwestern '04 stuyman@confusion.net http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/~laurence "The world has turned and left me here" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 20:38:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corey.datafast.net.au (corey.datafast.net.au [203.123.67.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3C2237B401 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 43740 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Feb 2001 04:39:37 -0000 From: "Corey Ralph" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:39:37 +1100 To: alex huppenthal Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 Message-ID: <20010219153937.A40696@corey.datafast.net.au> References: <005501c09a23$a4cc9e20$1800a8c0@d7k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <005501c09a23$a4cc9e20$1800a8c0@d7k>; from alex@aspenworks.com on Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 08:24:38PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is php4 under /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 08:24:38PM -0700, alex huppenthal wrote: > I'm trying to write a bit of PHP 4 script on FreeBSD. I can't seem to find a > PHP 4 interpreter (/usr/ports/lang). > > the /usr/ports/lang/php code seems to be version 3? > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 20:48:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.k2access.net (mail.k2access.net [63.140.99.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BA137B491 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mephisto ([208.41.204.124]) by mail.k2access.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59171U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id net; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:47:12 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Eric D. Stanfield" To: "Laurence Berland" Cc: Subject: RE: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:48:02 -0600 Message-ID: <000f01c09a2f$2433f860$7ccc29d0@thestanfields.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <3A909F0D.549C38D1@confusion.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's once check box to uncheck in the properties of the service. Handy when you have direct access to the offending machine. Not so handy when it's some schmo out on the west coast with a dsl line sending updates for his home-made domain that you are soa for heh. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Laurence Berland > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:20 PM > To: Clark Shishido > Cc: Peter Brezny; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers > > > > > Clark Shishido wrote: > > > it's the lovely magic of DDNS which is part of ActiveDirectory. > > default Windows2000 Server installation turns it on by default. > > you're going to have to learn some Windows2000. > > Specifically, you've got some registry digging to do. I am pretty sure > there is no checkbox or control panel to set this on, and of course no > config files (dont it make you wish everything was UNIX?) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 22:17:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BDE37B503 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from savvyd (c3-1a119.neo.rr.com [24.93.230.119]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA25417 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:26:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001501c09a3b$09d5ac00$22b197ce@savvyd> From: "Jim Flowers" To: References: Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:13:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org php4.04pl1 appears to work with Apache 1.3.17 on FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0. At least the phpinfo{} function displays correctly. Apache 1.3.17 from the fbsd port. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowan Crowe" To: FreeBSD Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 > On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, alex huppenthal wrote: > > > I'm trying to write a bit of PHP 4 script on FreeBSD. I can't seem to find a > > PHP 4 interpreter (/usr/ports/lang). > > > > the /usr/ports/lang/php code seems to be version 3? > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > You could always try installing it from source... :) > > I've installed PHP 4.03pl1 with Apache 1.3.14, statically linked, with no > problems at all. Note that Apache was also installed from source rather > than via the ports collection. > > PHP 4.04pl1 with the same Apache doesn't want to work though: > > satin# ./httpd.NEW -f /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf > Floating point exception (core dumped) > > Cheers. > > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://info.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 18 22:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE0137B4EC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA48533; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:40:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <001701c09a3e$c8d18cc0$1800a8c0@d7k> From: "alex huppenthal" To: "Jim Flowers" , References: <001501c09a3b$09d5ac00$22b197ce@savvyd> Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:40:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for all the responses. I 'm looking to run the php4 interpreter from a crontab. A cgi-bin version might do. I'm still reading and researching. It appears the cgi version of php4 works for that purpose. I've just copied the config.nice from a the mod_php4 build to supply most of the options I wanted and tested a few small scripts. There's some problems with a couple of libraries. I'm going to read read read... I've been looking for a way to ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Flowers" To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 > php4.04pl1 appears to work with Apache 1.3.17 on FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0. At > least the phpinfo{} function displays correctly. Apache 1.3.17 from the > fbsd port. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rowan Crowe" > To: FreeBSD > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:42 PM > Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 > > > > On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, alex huppenthal wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to write a bit of PHP 4 script on FreeBSD. I can't seem to > find a > > > PHP 4 interpreter (/usr/ports/lang). > > > > > > the /usr/ports/lang/php code seems to be version 3? > > > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > You could always try installing it from source... :) > > > > I've installed PHP 4.03pl1 with Apache 1.3.14, statically linked, with no > > problems at all. Note that Apache was also installed from source rather > > than via the ports collection. > > > > PHP 4.04pl1 with the same Apache doesn't want to work though: > > > > satin# ./httpd.NEW -f /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf > > Floating point exception (core dumped) > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > -- > > Rowan Crowe > http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > > Sensation Internet Services > http://info.sensation.net.au/ > > Melbourne, Australia Phone: > +61-3-9388-9260 > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 1:53:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A1A37B491 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from savvyd (c3-1a119.neo.rr.com [24.93.230.119]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA28522 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:03:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901c09a59$2c5b6d50$22b197ce@savvyd> From: "Jim Flowers" To: References: <001501c09a3b$09d5ac00$22b197ce@savvyd> <001701c09a3e$c8d18cc0$1800a8c0@d7k> Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:48:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you're going to do that just grab the latest source from www.php.net and compile it on the target machine. The basic 'make' will give you a php version that can be run from the command line or as a cgi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex huppenthal" To: "Jim Flowers" ; Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:40 AM Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 > Thanks for all the responses. I 'm looking to run the php4 interpreter from > a crontab. A cgi-bin version might do. I'm still reading and researching. > It appears the cgi version of php4 works for that purpose. I've just copied > the config.nice from a the mod_php4 build to supply most of the options I > wanted and tested a few small scripts. There's some problems with a couple > of libraries. > > I'm going to > read read read... > > I've been looking for a way to > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Flowers" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:13 PM > Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 > > > > php4.04pl1 appears to work with Apache 1.3.17 on FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0. > At > > least the phpinfo{} function displays correctly. Apache 1.3.17 from the > > fbsd port. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rowan Crowe" > > To: FreeBSD > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:42 PM > > Subject: Re: PHP4 interpreter on 3.5 or 4.2 > > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, alex huppenthal wrote: > > > > > > > I'm trying to write a bit of PHP 4 script on FreeBSD. I can't seem to > > find a > > > > PHP 4 interpreter (/usr/ports/lang). > > > > > > > > the /usr/ports/lang/php code seems to be version 3? > > > > > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > > > You could always try installing it from source... :) > > > > > > I've installed PHP 4.03pl1 with Apache 1.3.14, statically linked, with > no > > > problems at all. Note that Apache was also installed from source rather > > > than via the ports collection. > > > > > > PHP 4.04pl1 with the same Apache doesn't want to work though: > > > > > > satin# ./httpd.NEW -f /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf > > > Floating point exception (core dumped) > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rowan Crowe > > http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > > > Sensation Internet Services > > http://info.sensation.net.au/ > > > Melbourne, Australia Phone: > > +61-3-9388-9260 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 7:18:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.wmptl.com (mail2.wmptl.com [216.94.6.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A21037B4EC; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 07:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from wmptl.com ([10.0.0.168]) by mail2.wmptl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA60473; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:28:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from webmaster@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <3A9137F0.C177D65F@wmptl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:12:48 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail gone crazy, proliferating emails Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's something interesting for you... I Came into the office this morning, and found that sendmail had been duplicating incoming messages all night. I myself only found a few emails which had duplicate receivals, eg two messages same time, same sender, same content, same headers. I didn't think it was that big of a deal, until my boss calls to say some other people within the office are getting 100-200 copies of an email message. First thing I did was turn of sendmail, and cucipop. Then I skimmed the maillog, messages, and apache access logs (we're running a hacked-up version of Neomail for a web-based client; seldom-used). I didn't find anything out of the ordinary, no duplicate messages or anything. I did note the receive log in maillog had a singular log for some of the messages I was receiving several copies of. The only error message, (logged both to the screen, and to /etc/messages), was (several times for every user that had left outlook running over the weekend checking their email): Feb 19 09:04:25 home cucipop[43229]: Error locking userX's mailbox Feb 19 09:05:08 home cucipop[43236]: Error locking userY's mailbox Feb 19 09:06:26 home cucipop[43244]: Error locking userZ's mailbox The machine had been running now for 70days since the last reboot, (which was due to a power-failure, at which time the machine had been up for a similar amount of time before with no real problems). So I don't think it's a configuration problem, or else it probably would have been note before now. Also, nothing was changed on the machine for some time now; only two people have telnet/ssh access to the machine, and my boss sure as heck didn't do it, on purpose or otherwise. I then started to throw blame at MS Outlook, (using Outlook 2000 as the client software on our LAN). I figured maybe someone got a stupid little VB script which was pulling the addressbook from every internal machine and bouncing around a few hundred emails all of\ver the place or something. This wouldn't be so though, because a-sendmail would therefor have a log of each individual message being sent from outlook to wherever, and b-there were messages sent from the mail-server itself, (eg periodic daily runs via cron), which I received three or four copies of each, and I use netscape not Outlook for email personally. Seeing nothing else unusual, and having no clue what if anything was actually wrong, I started sendmail and cucipop back up. It has, (knock on wood), not had any such problems since. I still need an explanation of some sort though? What exactly happened and why? Has anyone else every seen something like this before? What caused it? Could it just be some sort of crazy fluke? Desperatly trying to make some sense of this here... if anyone out there has any ieas, questions, comments, concerns, or otherwise PLEASE feel free to contact me. I would like to get this resolved, or at least build an understanding as to why or how this happened in the firstplace. Nathan Vidican webmaster@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://home.wmptl.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 8:17: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.walls-media.com (ns1.walls-media.com [206.166.197.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AC537B699 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by ns1.walls-media.com (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-67172U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:17:00 -0600 X-Priority: Sensitivity: Company-Confidential From: Bryan Bunch To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:16:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20010219161700042.AAA206@ns1.walls-media.com@localhost> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, I have a question on the best way to handle a situation that we recently had. We had some pretty bad storms come through our city (Birmingham, AL) and had the power to our offices knocked out for a little over two days. We have been there for 3 1/2 years and this has been the only major outage that we have experienced. We have the standard UPS's that handle just about every power situation that we have experienced, but obviously this time we were dead in the water. I know the obvious answer, "get a generator", but the office we are in that is not currently an option. I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on what could be set up as far as co-locating some boxes at a provider that has a generator and somehow putting routes into their router via BGP that would 'kick in' for us in case we had another extended power outage. This was just the first thing that popped into my head, but obviously other people have had to address the same issue as well. Thanks for any advice/thoughts on the matter. Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 8:29:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nsvis.dk (mail.nsvis.dk [194.239.250.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7612137B65D for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from goppus.overalt.no [213.46.218.132] by mail.nsvis.dk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AAC7D2400B8; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:33:11 +0000 From: Marius Sorteberg Organization: Overalt To: Bryan Bunch , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:28:52 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" References: <20010219161700042.AAA206@ns1.walls-media.com@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20010219161700042.AAA206@ns1.walls-media.com@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01021917285201.00283@goppus.overalt.no> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Take a look at http://eddie.sourceforge.net/ , or /usr/ports/www/eddie/. I haven't used it, but it might be what you are looking for. Marius On Monday 19 February 2001 17:16, Bryan Bunch wrote: > Hello All, > > I have a question on the best way to handle a situation that we recently > had. We had some pretty bad storms come through our city (Birmingham, AL) > and had the power to our offices knocked out for a little over two days. We > have been there for 3 1/2 years and this has been the only major outage > that we have experienced. We have the standard UPS's that handle just about > every power situation that we have experienced, but obviously this time we > were dead in the water. I know the obvious answer, "get a gener tor", but > the office we are in that is not currently an option. I was wondering if > anyone had any opinions on what could be set up as far as co-locating some > boxes at a provider that has a generator and somehow putting routes into > their router via BGP that would 'kick in' for us in case we had another > extended power outage. This was just the first thing that popped into my > head, but obviously other people have had to address the same issue as > well. > > Thanks for any advice/thoughts on the matter. > > > Bryan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 8:33:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1FF37B65D for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from server0 (cr1032856-a.pr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.146.66]) by hawk-systems.com (8.8.8) id JAA12672 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:33:16 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave VanAuken" To: Subject: RE: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:42:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <20010219161700042.AAA206@ns1.walls-media.com@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My question would be what are you wanting to co-locate... If you are already paying for the colocation, the next questions would be, why duplicate the servers locally? same administration requirements. Would need a better idea of what you would co-locate and what resources we are talking about to give you a better idea of what sort of solution you would need (ie: we talking a web site, shared database, remote login resources...). Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:17 AM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Redundancy... Sensitivity: Confidential Hello All, I have a question on the best way to handle a situation that we recently had. We had some pretty bad storms come through our city (Birmingham, AL) and had the power to our offices knocked out for a little over two days. We have been there for 3 1/2 years and this has been the only major outage that we have experienced. We have the standard UPS's that handle just about every power situation that we have experienced, but obviously this time we were dead in the water. I know the obvious answer, "get a generator", but the office we are in that is not currently an option. I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on what could be set up as far as co-locating some boxes at a provider that has a generator and somehow putting routes into their router via BGP that would 'kick in' for us in case we had another extended power outage. This was just the first thing that popped into my head, but obviously other people have had to address the same issue as well. Thanks for any advice/thoughts on the matter. Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 10:26:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sm10.texas.rr.com (sm10.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7074137B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bryanhome (cs164208-129.jam.rr.com [24.164.208.129]) by sm10.texas.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1JIMgQ03139 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:22:42 -0600 From: "Bryan Bunch" To: Subject: RE: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:26:34 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave, We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended power outage at our location. Bryan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave VanAuken > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:42 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Redundancy... > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > My question would be what are you wanting to co-locate... If you are > already paying for the colocation, the next questions would be, why > duplicate the servers locally? same administration requirements. > > Would need a better idea of what you would co-locate and what > resources we are talking about to give you a better idea of what sort > of solution you would need (ie: we talking a web site, shared > database, remote login resources...). > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:17 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Redundancy... > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > Hello All, > > I have a question on the best way to handle a situation that we > recently had. We had some pretty bad storms come through our city > (Birmingham, AL) and had the power to our offices knocked out for a > little over two days. We have been there for 3 1/2 years and this has > been the only major outage that we have experienced. We have the > standard UPS's that handle just about every power situation that we > have experienced, but obviously this time we were dead in the water. I > know the obvious answer, "get a generator", but the office we are in > that is not currently an option. I was wondering if anyone had any > opinions on what could be set up as far as co-locating some boxes at a > provider that has a generator and somehow putting routes into their > router via BGP that would 'kick in' for us in case we had another > extended power outage. This was just the first thing that popped into > my head, but obviously other people have had to address the same issue > as well. > > Thanks for any advice/thoughts on the matter. > > > Bryan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 14: 9:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A3637B4EC for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA00886 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:09:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <001301c09ac0$9cd02960$1800a8c0@d7k> From: "alex huppenthal" To: Subject: Thanks for the info about php4 - cgi - new question Java? Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:09:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay, so call me a dummy. *s The cgi-bin version of php4, built without the apache mod --options creates a nice executable I can use for my crontab scripts. That works! Thanks to all who replied. Next problem. A developer want Java2 Release 1.3 (can't they just call it Java 2.3? ) Is there a jdk port for FreeBSD at that level? Is anyone tracking the state of the art for supporting Java developers on FreeBSD? Should I be posting to 'developers-Freebsd'? Is linux-binaries the state of the art for FreeBSD. Given the wonderful writeup in Byte magazine on the performance and stability of FreeBSD vs. Linux, perhaps Sun would consider building a binary for FreeBSD? I'd like that. AH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 14:38:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4056237B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from gorean.org (Studded@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA52441; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:38:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3A91A059.25DDA2F4@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:38:17 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Corey Ralph Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bind problems References: <20010213120914.B99396@corey.datafast.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Corey Ralph wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am having a problem with one of my nameservers since upgrading bind > after the advisory last week. > > It runs slave for all our zones. It has stopped updating its zone > files. Doing it manually using /usr/libexec/named-xfer works fine. Have you checked the files it downloads this way for syntax errors? What happens if you try loading the zones after you download them by hand? BIND 8.2.3 and 9.1.* are much pickier about zone file syntax, so chances are that either the master nameservers are no longer authoritative for the zones, or your slave server won't load them because they contain syntax errors. Without knowing more details it's impossible to tell for sure. Good luck, Doug -- "Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory . . . lasts forever." -- Keanu Reeves as Shane Falco in "The Replacements" Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 14:47:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8101B37B4EC for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from server0 (cr1032856-a.pr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.146.66]) by hawk-systems.com (8.8.8) id PAA60840 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:47:25 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave VanAuken" To: Subject: RE: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:56:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What I am getting at is the following: obviously if your building is out, none of your employees at the building need access to the servers (they are most certainly our before your servers are out). Thus, what are you concerned about keeping alive during extended outages. All those servers? This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at your co-located site. Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. Does that track? Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:27 PM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... Sensitivity: Confidential Dave, We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended power outage at our location. Bryan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave VanAuken > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:42 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Redundancy... > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > My question would be what are you wanting to co-locate... If you are > already paying for the colocation, the next questions would be, why > duplicate the servers locally? same administration requirements. > > Would need a better idea of what you would co-locate and what > resources we are talking about to give you a better idea of what sort > of solution you would need (ie: we talking a web site, shared > database, remote login resources...). > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:17 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Redundancy... > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > Hello All, > > I have a question on the best way to handle a situation that we > recently had. We had some pretty bad storms come through our city > (Birmingham, AL) and had the power to our offices knocked out for a > little over two days. We have been there for 3 1/2 years and this has > been the only major outage that we have experienced. We have the > standard UPS's that handle just about every power situation that we > have experienced, but obviously this time we were dead in the water. I > know the obvious answer, "get a generator", but the office we are in > that is not currently an option. I was wondering if anyone had any > opinions on what could be set up as far as co-locating some boxes at a > provider that has a generator and somehow putting routes into their > router via BGP that would 'kick in' for us in case we had another > extended power outage. This was just the first thing that popped into > my head, but obviously other people have had to address the same issue > as well. > > Thanks for any advice/thoughts on the matter. > > > Bryan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 14:50:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E268537B491 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:50:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:03:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:03:04 -0500 Sensitivity: Company-Confidential MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09AC8.1D663C70" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09AC8.1D663C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you co-locate has gas powered generators as well as backups protecting your servers, or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of some guy's basement =) -Drew -----Original Message----- From: Dave VanAuken [mailto:dave@hawk-systems.com] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:56 PM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... Sensitivity: Confidential What I am getting at is the following: obviously if your building is out, none of your employees at the building need access to the servers (they are most certainly our before your servers are out). Thus, what are you concerned about keeping alive during extended outages. All those servers? This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at your co-located site. Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. Does that track? Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:27 PM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... Sensitivity: Confidential Dave, We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended power outage at our location. Bryan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave VanAuken > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:42 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Redundancy... > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > My question would be what are you wanting to co-locate... If you are > already paying for the colocation, the next questions would be, why > duplicate the servers locally? same administration requirements. > > Would need a better idea of what you would co-locate and what > resources we are talking about to give you a better idea of what sort > of solution you would need (ie: we talking a web site, shared > database, remote login resources...). > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:17 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Redundancy... > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > Hello All, > > I have a question on the best way to handle a situation that we > recently had. We had some pretty bad storms come through our city > (Birmingham, AL) and had the power to our offices knocked out for a > little over two days. We have been there for 3 1/2 years and this has > been the only major outage that we have experienced. We have the > standard UPS's that handle just about every power situation that we > have experienced, but obviously this time we were dead in the water. I > know the obvious answer, "get a generator", but the office we are in > that is not currently an option. I was wondering if anyone had any > opinions on what could be set up as far as co-locating some boxes at a > provider that has a generator and somehow putting routes into their > router via BGP that would 'kick in' for us in case we had another > extended power outage. This was just the first thing that popped into > my head, but obviously other people have had to address the same issue > as well. > > Thanks for any advice/thoughts on the matter. > > > Bryan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09AC8.1D663C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Redundancy...

On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you = co-locate has gas powered generators as well as backups protecting your = servers, or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of = some guy's basement =3D)

-Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave VanAuken [mailto:dave@hawk-systems.com]<= /FONT>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:56 PM
To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: Redundancy...
Sensitivity: Confidential


What I am getting at is the following:

obviously if your building is out, none of your = employees at the
building need access to the servers (they are most = certainly our
before your servers are out).

Thus, what are you concerned about keeping alive = during extended
outages.  All those servers?

This may or may not be an option, but segregate the = resources that
much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client = server
applications) and co-locate those.  Don't = bother having a local copy
of them since it is probably just as easy to update = the content at
your co-located site.

Then the only thing you keep local is your = interoffice lcient server
stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is = live to use anyway.

Does that track?

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@F= reeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:27 PM
To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: Redundancy...
Sensitivity: Confidential


Dave,

We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD = & 1 NT). One box is
a DB
server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We = currently are no
co-locating.
All of our boxes are currently under our roof along = with the bandwidth
(2
T-1's). As we found out, the biggest point of = failure that we have is
if there
is an extended power outage at our location.



Bryan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@F= reeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave VanAuken
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: RE: Redundancy...
> Sensitivity: Confidential
>
>
> My question would be what are you wanting to = co-locate...  If you
are
> already paying for the colocation, the next = questions would be, why
> duplicate the servers locally? same = administration requirements.
>
> Would need a better idea of what you would = co-locate and what
> resources we are talking about to give you a = better idea of what
sort
> of solution you would need (ie: we talking a = web site, shared
> database, remote login resources...).
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@F= reeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Redundancy...
> Sensitivity: Confidential
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have a question on the best way to handle a = situation that we
> recently had. We had some pretty bad storms = come through our city
> (Birmingham, AL) and had the power to our = offices knocked out for a
> little over two days. We have been there for 3 = 1/2 years and this
has
> been the only major outage that we have = experienced. We have the
> standard UPS's that handle just about every = power situation that we
> have experienced, but obviously this time we = were dead in the water.
I
> know the obvious answer, "get a = generator", but the office we are in
> that is not currently an option. I was = wondering if anyone had any
> opinions on what could be set up as far as = co-locating some boxes at
a
> provider that has a generator and somehow = putting routes into their
> router via BGP that would 'kick in' for us in = case we had another
> extended power outage. This was just the first = thing that popped
into
> my head, but obviously other people have had to = address the same
issue
> as well.
>
> Thanks for any advice/thoughts on the = matter.
>
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
> To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the = body of the message
>
>
>
>
> To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the = body of the message
>



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C09AC8.1D663C70-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 15:47:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-212.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FA137B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA68828 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:47:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bill) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:47:09 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redundancy... Message-ID: <20010219184709.A68789@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@bilver.wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from drew.weaver@thenap.com on Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500, Drew J. Weaver thus spoke: > On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you co-locate has gas > powered generators as well as backups protecting your servers, > or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of some > guy's basement =) Gas powered generators are typically on the small side. Serious generators are typically diesel. To me the best way is to find an ISP who is co-located inside a carrier [we've done that with our ISP], and rely on humoungous UPS and the 1MW+ Cat generators. Not the cheapest but IMO the best. Prices aren't the cheapest - but not that bad either. eg a 1 RU server with 1.5Mbit guaranteed bandwith on our 100MB uplink to the OC192 - is $850 month. It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish and how critical the servers are. > This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that > much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server > applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy > of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at > your co-located site. > > Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server > stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. > We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One > box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We > currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under > our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the > biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended > power outage at our location. > -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 16:20:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AA937B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f1K0KK659876 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:20:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f1K0KKD59870 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:20:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1K0J9x72742 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:19:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <035301c09ad2$e37550e0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: Lucent IPSec client -> Fbsd vpn Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:20:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f1K0KKD59870 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can FreeBSD make vpn when accessed by a Lucent IPSec client? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 18:29:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corey.datafast.net.au (corey.datafast.net.au [203.123.67.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCE6937B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 57184 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Feb 2001 02:30:48 -0000 From: "Corey Ralph" Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:30:48 +1100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Dedicated smtp relay box Message-ID: <20010220133048.A91585@corey.datafast.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I run a freebsd 4.2 qmail mail server, serving 20k or so mailboxes across 300 domains, and relaying for anywhere up to 1500 modem lines, plus microwave clients. Since installing antivirus software on our qmail server, the load has increased dramatically. It has on average 200 qmail-smtpd processes running, and available memory fluctuates from 195MB to about 50MB out of 1.7GB. I suspect that this is due to the increased time taken to process each message. I am concerned that if I open up the smtpd limit that it will run out of RAM. So, I am looking for a way to shift some of the load. My theory so far is to set up a seperate smtp server for the relaying, and redirect the traffic from the firewall or router, so that the main mail server will only handle the hosted domains, not the relaying. Removing the virus scanning for outgoing messages is not an issue, we only really want it for incoming anyway. I came across zmailer (www.zmailer.org) and they claim it is just the thing for this kind of job. Does anybody have any experience with it? They say there have been some major changes in the mime handling etc, is it solid enough? Or should I just set up another qmail box? Or is there a simple way that I am missing? Cheers, Corey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 18:32:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.netsol.net (mail.netsol.net [216.179.148.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B770037B491 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from fire ([63.194.3.101]) by mail1.netsol.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:42:51 -0800 Message-ID: <002e01c09ae5$5d6b3830$6503c23f@XGforce.com> Reply-To: "jl" From: "jl" To: , References: <20010219184709.A68789@wjv.com> Subject: Re: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:32:24 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can also use eCluster, a load balance and fail safe cluster software to fail safe between several distant locations that are mirroring each other or load balance and mirroring each other. check out: www.xgforce.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Vermillion To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Redundancy... > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500, Drew J. Weaver thus spoke: > > > On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you co-locate has gas > > powered generators as well as backups protecting your servers, > > or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of some > > guy's basement =) > > Gas powered generators are typically on the small side. Serious > generators are typically diesel. To me the best way is to find an > ISP who is co-located inside a carrier [we've done that with our > ISP], and rely on humoungous UPS and the 1MW+ Cat generators. Not > the cheapest but IMO the best. Prices aren't the cheapest - but > not that bad either. eg a 1 RU server with 1.5Mbit guaranteed > bandwith on our 100MB uplink to the OC192 - is $850 month. > > It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish and how > critical the servers are. > > > This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that > > much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server > > applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy > > of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at > > your co-located site. > > > > Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server > > stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. > > > We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One > > box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We > > currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under > > our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the > > biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended > > power outage at our location. > > > > > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 18:38:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.netsol.net (mail.netsol.net [216.179.148.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF31637B4EC for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fire ([63.194.3.101]) by mail1.netsol.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:49:13 -0800 Message-ID: <005b01c09ae6$41766e50$6503c23f@XGforce.com> Reply-To: "jl" From: "jl" To: "Paul Khavkine" , "Brian Reichert" Cc: References: <3A90499E.CECAE369@colba.net> <20010218172203.C85795@numachi.com> <3A904FF1.F5C23ECE@colba.net> Subject: Re: Distributed user info Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:38:49 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org check out www.xgforce.com. There's a nisII software. It's a re-born nis with SSL and mantains distributed user info across different platforms. If your nis master dead, users will still be able to login. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Khavkine To: Brian Reichert Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: Re: Distributed user info > Brian Reichert wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 05:15:59PM -0500, Paul Khavkine wrote: > > > Hi, i'm looking for a way to maintain user information in a central > > > database so it can be shared > > > accross multiple boxes. > > > I like the Kerberos 5 suthentication scheme but i need more then > > > authentication. > > > I need to redistribute stuff like usernames, passwords, uids, gids, > > > etc... > > > I could just use NIS but dont like sensitive information to be passed > > > around in clear text and a lack > > > of authentication other then by hostname/ip. > > > What other alternatives to NIS are there, preferably tied with Kerberos > > > 5 authentication? > > > > LDAP / Radius? I'm guessing... > > Not a big LDAP fan, but for RADIUS, how would you make all the programs using > getpwnam() > and the likes to get the info from RADIUS. > Is there an NSS implementation for FreeBSD like the one for Solaris/Linux ? > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > > Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert > > 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 > > Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 18:42:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93F137B503 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tot-tm.proxy.aol.com (tot-tm.proxy.aol.com [152.163.197.1]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id VAA13831; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from jmsws (AC910DA4.ipt.aol.com [172.145.13.164]) by tot-tm.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f1K2gJC19902; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:42:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003901c09ae7$5bd236c0$6a06fea9@jmsws> From: "Jonathan Slivko" To: , References: <20010219184709.A68789@wjv.com> Subject: Re: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:46:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Apparently-From: JMS19NYC@aol.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Guys, Another ISP that is worth looking into is CyberXpress. They have 3 T1's, all multihomed as well as all the backup, both data and power that you'll ever need. It'll run you about $250 for half a rack of space, enough to fit 5 machines or $500 for a full rack, which is enough to fit 10 machines of a standard workstation configuration. You can go and get more information about this company from their website: http://www.cxp.com. If you would like further information, please e-mail me privately and not send it to the list. Thanks. -- Jonathan M. Slivko -- Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, APPL Technologies Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network website: http://webpage.pace.edu/js43064n/ "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" -- ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Vermillion To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: Re: Redundancy... > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500, Drew J. Weaver thus spoke: > > > On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you co-locate has gas > > powered generators as well as backups protecting your servers, > > or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of some > > guy's basement =) > > Gas powered generators are typically on the small side. Serious > generators are typically diesel. To me the best way is to find an > ISP who is co-located inside a carrier [we've done that with our > ISP], and rely on humoungous UPS and the 1MW+ Cat generators. Not > the cheapest but IMO the best. Prices aren't the cheapest - but > not that bad either. eg a 1 RU server with 1.5Mbit guaranteed > bandwith on our 100MB uplink to the OC192 - is $850 month. > > It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish and how > critical the servers are. > > > This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that > > much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server > > applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy > > of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at > > your co-located site. > > > > Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server > > stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. > > > We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One > > box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We > > currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under > > our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the > > biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended > > power outage at our location. > > > > > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 19: 4:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBA037B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14V2N3-00006d-00; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:17:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:17:20 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Corey Ralph Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dedicated smtp relay box In-Reply-To: <20010220133048.A91585@corey.datafast.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Corey Ralph wrote: > Or should I just set up another qmail box? Or is there a simple way > that I am missing? Point the preferred MX to another box, have it virus scan the e-mail and forward the e-mail to the existing mailbox storage server. > Cheers, > Corey Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 19:26:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corey.datafast.net.au (corey.datafast.net.au [203.123.67.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2AAE37B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4283 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Feb 2001 03:27:34 -0000 From: "Corey Ralph" Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:27:34 +1100 To: Tom Samplonius Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dedicated smtp relay box Message-ID: <20010220142734.B91585@corey.datafast.net.au> References: <20010220133048.A91585@corey.datafast.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tom@sdf.com on Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:17:20PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks Tom. That seems like a good idea, but we have found a catch. Say if one of our customers sends to one of our own domains. The mail server they relay through is the same one that hosts the destination domain. So their mail would be delivered locally and never get scanned. I can't change that 'mail' A record which the customer's pcs reference to point to another box, as the same name is used for POP3 and IMAP. And I would prefer to keep the scanner on the existing box, as it is fairly big box (cpu & ram), I don't have another box so large on hand. Cheers, Corey On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:17:20PM -0800, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Corey Ralph wrote: > > > Or should I just set up another qmail box? Or is there a simple way > > that I am missing? > > Point the preferred MX to another box, have it virus scan the e-mail and > forward the e-mail to the existing mailbox storage server. > > > Cheers, > > Corey > > Tom > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 19:33:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5F437B401 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14V2pA-00008X-00; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:46:44 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:46:43 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Corey Ralph Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dedicated smtp relay box In-Reply-To: <20010220142734.B91585@corey.datafast.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Corey Ralph wrote: > Thanks Tom. > > That seems like a good idea, but we have found a catch. > > Say if one of our customers sends to one of our own domains. The mail > server they relay through is the same one that hosts the destination > domain. So their mail would be delivered locally and never get scanned. > > I can't change that 'mail' A record which the customer's pcs reference to > point to another box, as the same name is used for POP3 and IMAP. It is never a good idea to do that. It limits your scalability. Use a "mail-in" host for the MX record, and a "pop" host for inbound mail and a "mail" host for outbound mail. Almost unlimited scalability. > And I would prefer to keep the scanner on the existing box, as it is > fairly big box (cpu & ram), I don't have another box so large on hand. I thought the issue was that it was overloaded and you had to get another box anyhow? Also, the above scheme allows you to add as many scanner systems as required. > Cheers, > Corey > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:17:20PM -0800, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Corey Ralph wrote: > > > > > Or should I just set up another qmail box? Or is there a simple way > > > that I am missing? > > > > Point the preferred MX to another box, have it virus scan the e-mail and > > forward the e-mail to the existing mailbox storage server. > > > > > Cheers, > > > Corey > > > > Tom > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 19:57:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corey.datafast.net.au (corey.datafast.net.au [203.123.67.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DD9D37B4EC for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31742 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Feb 2001 03:58:57 -0000 From: "Corey Ralph" Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:58:57 +1100 To: Tom Samplonius Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dedicated smtp relay box Message-ID: <20010220145857.C91585@corey.datafast.net.au> References: <20010220142734.B91585@corey.datafast.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tom@sdf.com on Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:46:43PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:46:43PM -0800, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > It is never a good idea to do that. It limits your scalability. Use a > "mail-in" host for the MX record, and a "pop" host for inbound mail and a > "mail" host for outbound mail. Almost unlimited scalability. Thanks for the tip, I wish I could do something like that. But it was like this long before I started here, and there is nothing I can do about it. Management wouldn't let me make a change that would require all of our customers to make such a change. > I thought the issue was that it was overloaded and you had to get > another box anyhow? Also, the above scheme allows you to add as many > scanner systems as required. I was hoping that just relaying smtp wouldn't need a large system, so I could use a spare box I already have. I have a couple decent systems, p3's with 512MB, but nothing like that one, 8x18GB + one hot spare, dual p3 800, 1.7GB ram. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 20:20:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.chartermi.net (060upc075.chartermi.net [24.213.60.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3037B4EC for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from danrc ([24.247.68.118]) by mail.chartermi.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70727U39742L26062S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:19:56 -0500 Message-ID: <009301c09af4$61b28100$0101a8c0@fear.wrath.net> From: "Brian" To: References: <20010219184709.A68789@wjv.com> <003901c09ae7$5bd236c0$6a06fea9@jmsws> Subject: Re: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:19:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since we're into recommending people to do business with I'll throw one out there as well. http://www.tera-byte.com/. They're the cheapest bang for your buck, and I've had good luck dealing with them. I usually have a response time of a couple of hours, and that's just for maintenance. I'd imagine they'd be like flies on shit if something serious happened. One problem: they sit in Canada. -brian@wrath.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Slivko" To: ; Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Redundancy... > Guys, > > Another ISP that is worth looking into is CyberXpress. They have 3 T1's, all > multihomed as well as all the backup, both data and power that you'll ever > need. It'll run you about $250 for half a rack of space, enough to fit 5 > machines or $500 for a full rack, which is enough to fit 10 machines of a > standard workstation configuration. You can go and get more information > about this company from their website: http://www.cxp.com. If you would like > further information, please e-mail me privately and not send it to the list. > Thanks. -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > -- > Jonathan M. Slivko > Systems Administrator, APPL Technologies > Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network > website: http://webpage.pace.edu/js43064n/ > > "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" > -- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Vermillion > To: > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:47 PM > Subject: Re: Redundancy... > > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500, Drew J. Weaver thus spoke: > > > > > On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you co-locate has gas > > > powered generators as well as backups protecting your servers, > > > or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of some > > > guy's basement =) > > > > Gas powered generators are typically on the small side. Serious > > generators are typically diesel. To me the best way is to find an > > ISP who is co-located inside a carrier [we've done that with our > > ISP], and rely on humoungous UPS and the 1MW+ Cat generators. Not > > the cheapest but IMO the best. Prices aren't the cheapest - but > > not that bad either. eg a 1 RU server with 1.5Mbit guaranteed > > bandwith on our 100MB uplink to the OC192 - is $850 month. > > > > It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish and how > > critical the servers are. > > > > > This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that > > > much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server > > > applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy > > > of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at > > > your co-located site. > > > > > > Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server > > > stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. > > > > > We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One > > > box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We > > > currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under > > > our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the > > > biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended > > > power outage at our location. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 0:33:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459E137B4EC; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1K8Wr715354; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:32:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nathan Vidican" , , Subject: RE: Sendmail gone crazy, proliferating emails Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:32:53 -0800 Message-ID: <00f501c09b17$b7b7c100$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3A9137F0.C177D65F@wmptl.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Nathan, I can't tell you WHY it happened, but I CAN tell you WHAT happened. First of all, it wasn't Sendmail that duplicated the mail, it was cucipop. I'll illustrate this step by step 1) message recieved by sendmail, written to user mailbox. 2) cucipop gets a "check mail" request from a pop client 3) cucipop moves the user mailbox file to a temp file to work on 4) cucipop transmits the message to the pop client 5) client successfully recieves the pop message and sends a delete command back to cucipop 6) cucipop attempts to delete the message, is unable to do so, spits out an error message 7) cucipop moves the temp file which still contains the message that was supposed to be deleted, back to the user mailbox, then exits. 8) User mailbox is now in exactly the same state as it was in before step #2 and after step #1 9) step #2 is repeated 10) step #3 is repeated 11) step #4 is repeated - now a second copy of the message has been transmitted to the client 12) step #5 is repeated 13) step#6 is repeated. and so on and so on, for ever and ever, each time the mail client gets another duplicate of the mail message. I could speculate that the mailserver ran out of lock resources for some reason, perhaps recompiling with MAXUSERS set higher would help. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Nathan Vidican > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:13 AM > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG; isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Sendmail gone crazy, proliferating emails > > > Here's something interesting for you... > > I Came into the office this morning, and found that sendmail had been > duplicating incoming messages all night. I myself only found a few > emails which had duplicate receivals, eg two messages same time, same > sender, same content, same headers. I didn't think it was that big of a > deal, until my boss calls to say some other people within the office are > getting 100-200 copies of an email message. > First thing I did was turn of sendmail, and cucipop. Then I skimmed > the maillog, messages, and apache access logs (we're running a hacked-up > version of Neomail for a web-based client; seldom-used). I didn't find > anything out of the ordinary, no duplicate messages or anything. I did > note the receive log in maillog had a singular log for some of the > messages I was receiving several copies of. > The only error message, (logged both to the screen, and to > /etc/messages), was (several times for every user that had left outlook > running over the weekend checking their email): > > Feb 19 09:04:25 home cucipop[43229]: Error locking userX's mailbox > Feb 19 09:05:08 home cucipop[43236]: Error locking userY's mailbox > Feb 19 09:06:26 home cucipop[43244]: Error locking userZ's mailbox > > The machine had been running now for 70days since the last reboot, > (which was due to a power-failure, at which time the machine had been up > for a similar amount of time before with no real problems). So I don't > think it's a configuration problem, or else it probably would have been > note before now. Also, nothing was changed on the machine for some time > now; only two people have telnet/ssh access to the machine, and my boss > sure as heck didn't do it, on purpose or otherwise. > I then started to throw blame at MS Outlook, (using Outlook 2000 as > the client software on our LAN). I figured maybe someone got a stupid > little VB script which was pulling the addressbook from every internal > machine and bouncing around a few hundred emails all of\ver the place or > something. This wouldn't be so though, because a-sendmail would therefor > have a log of each individual message being sent from outlook to > wherever, and b-there were messages sent from the mail-server itself, > (eg periodic daily runs via cron), which I received three or four copies > of each, and I use netscape not Outlook for email personally. > Seeing nothing else unusual, and having no clue what if anything was > actually wrong, I started sendmail and cucipop back up. It has, (knock > on wood), not had any such problems since. I still need an explanation > of some sort though? What exactly happened and why? Has anyone else > every seen something like this before? What caused it? Could it just be > some sort of crazy fluke? > Desperatly trying to make some sense of this here... if anyone out > there has any ieas, questions, comments, concerns, or otherwise PLEASE > feel free to contact me. I would like to get this resolved, or at least > build an understanding as to why or how this happened in the firstplace. > > Nathan Vidican > webmaster@wmptl.com > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. > http://home.wmptl.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 2:52:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from beta.root-servers.ch (beta.root-servers.ch [195.49.33.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAAD437B401 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 22353 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 10:52:28 -0000 Received: from dclient106-31.hispeed.ch (HELO WORK) (62.2.106.31) by beta.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 10:52:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:54:12 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <48511797606.20010220115412@buz.ch> To: "Bryan Bunch" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Redundancy... In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Bryan, Monday, February 19, 2001, 7:26:34 PM, you wrote: > Dave, > We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One box is a DB > server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We currently are no co-locating. > All of our boxes are currently under our roof along with the bandwidth (2 > T-1's). As we found out, the biggest point of failure that we have is if there > is an extended power outage at our location. If that is really the biggest concern, I'd advise to go for a decent colocation. Most of them nowadays have massive generators and site UPS, but if you have enough spare rack space, a custom UPS for your servers to cover the first few minutes can't hurt. Ask em to show you their power connections if you feel they might be telling you bluesky... Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBOpI+yMZa2WpymlDxAQGUygf/WOJAgBjE4mIwjiQS2Mzf3I0Gr7yxL4FF YuDWNTTGjLQmFk8fqtZOTFJixyQYwS7CRGO3yV8Nn9NmIxkUV3pz9vnoxfSFA7iH FEZs04Y8Vw7vUPcuLpVgGbI81wIPfwgh3nijRTLmMcVYhtGUKgNYg+vvKFeOa4Bb irYpcxAEh7dw69EAcyIWzl7kdMHF5BrKLa8ZUB5bytfOv3aa5bryKu+14LkaNXn4 V3mJq1XATFudesIgEHoEBNLWAwHVaqvm6OvHCdi0YuvLtfXg+TFy4trZJtjaTViG roD1N5bPzKuV+5WeKhb3si7GHkXJZ3VWxH0YhQ38Fdy+JodYFd73Cw== =8aTG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 8:43:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD69437B4EC for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:43:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05257 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:43:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <005e01c09b5c$34926600$1800a8c0@d7k> From: "alex huppenthal" To: Subject: Java services Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:43:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're working to build Java services on FreeBSD for a customer. with Java-cup and jlex I get this error, but haven't found a source for the library "libhpi". Any clue would be appreciated. /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.0//bin/i386/green_threads/javac: error in loading shared libraries: libhpi.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 9: 1:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sm8.texas.rr.com (sm8.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE92237B491 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:01:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryanb@walls-media.com) Received: from bryanhome (cs164208-129.jam.rr.com [24.164.208.129]) by sm8.texas.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1KGvBM12667 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:57:11 -0600 From: "Bryan Bunch" To: Subject: RE: Redundancy... Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:01:19 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010219203048.A22750@stealth.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. I have several things to consider and all of the input has been extremely helpful. Bryan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bryan Bunch > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:17 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Redundancy... > Sensitivity: Confidential > > > Hello All, > > I have a question on the best way to handle a situation that we > recently had. We had some pretty bad storms come through our city > (Birmingham, AL) and had the power to our offices knocked out for a > little over two days. We have been there for 3 1/2 years and this has > been the only major outage that we have experienced. We have the > standard UPS's that handle just about every power situation that we > have experienced, but obviously this time we were dead in the water. I > know the obvious answer, "get a generator", but the office we are in > that is not currently an option. I was wondering if anyone had any > opinions on what could be set up as far as co-locating some boxes at a > provider that has a generator and somehow putting routes into their > router via BGP that would 'kick in' for us in case we had another > extended power outage. This was just the first thing that popped into > my head, but obviously other people have had to address the same issue > as well. > > Thanks for any advice/thoughts on the matter. > > > Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 10:19: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [208.11.142.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D6237B401 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:18:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28559 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:18:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:18:57 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Sander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > extended power-outage On a different tack, has anyone got any *good* information on fuel-cell technology? (like companies offering products for sale now?) Several products are supposed to be available now, or "soon" but the sites making those claims don't seem to have been recently updated. This technology seems perfect for applications where a generator isn't practical, moving machines to colo facilities is not desireable, but multi-hour/day backup power is required. But only if someone can bring it to market in a way small/mid size businesses can cost-justify... -=Jim=- Addy & Associates Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 10:42:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B0F37B698 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:42:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VH0K-0001IB-00; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:55:12 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:55:05 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Jim Sander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Jim Sander wrote: > > extended power-outage > > On a different tack, has anyone got any *good* information on fuel-cell > technology? (like companies offering products for sale now?) Several > products are supposed to be available now, or "soon" but the sites making > those claims don't seem to have been recently updated. > > This technology seems perfect for applications where a generator isn't > practical, moving machines to colo facilities is not desireable, but > multi-hour/day backup power is required. But only if someone can bring it > to market in a way small/mid size businesses can cost-justify... > > -=Jim=- Addy & Associates Inc. Ballard (a fuel cell leader) is making some stationairy power systems, but they are designed for fairly larger installations. They are also expensive. I also have no idea of where you would think a fuel-cell based plant could used somewhere a traditional diesel/natural gas/propane generator could not. A common technique in large office buildings is to purchase two parking spaces in the parking garage near the outside wall. Build a room around the parking spaces, install the generator, fuel storage, ducting for the air intake and cooling, and exhaust pipes. Cooling air is exhausted back into the parking garage. One of our locations has a nice 125kW generator installed in a such a configuration. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 12:50:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B003B37B4EC for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:50:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: from server0 (cr1032856-a.pr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.146.66]) by hawk-systems.com (8.8.8) id NAA84252 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:50:00 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave VanAuken" To: Subject: RE: Redundancy... Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:59:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org would be interested in any threads along this line if you get responses (though probably would be best served not continuing it on this list). Currently using Natural Gas generators for POP sites, and at 15k a pop for sufficiently oversized ones (UPS power signal problem) not to mention the air code requirements and so forth... always looking for more POP site/small data room friendly solutions. Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jim Sander Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:19 PM Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... > extended power-outage On a different tack, has anyone got any *good* information on fuel-cell technology? (like companies offering products for sale now?) Several products are supposed to be available now, or "soon" but the sites making those claims don't seem to have been recently updated. This technology seems perfect for applications where a generator isn't practical, moving machines to colo facilities is not desireable, but multi-hour/day backup power is required. But only if someone can bring it to market in a way small/mid size businesses can cost-justify... -=Jim=- Addy & Associates Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 13: 4:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [208.11.142.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B42837B4EC for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA45706 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:04:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:04:07 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Sander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I also have no idea of where you would think a fuel-cell based plant > could used somewhere a traditional diesel/natural gas/propane > generator could not. The emissions of a fuel cell are mostly (all?) heat and water, so they can be used indoors- especially for "short" periods of time, as in a power emergency. (probably not a good idea to fill the unventilated server room with hot, moist air- but in an emergency it could be done) At least you're not going to poison yourself, or those nearby- a big plus in my book. Some areas will prohibit you from storing liquid fuel on premisis. Storing a couple 20lb H2 tanks (or CNG/LPG/propane if the cell can do a clean conversion for you) is much more acceptable (if no less dangerous under proper conditions) than a having a big jug of diesel around. In cramped quarters, the noise of a generator could get annoying really fast- and remote location can present problems of its own. Like I said, there are lots of companies promising to deliver products that look suitable, and some that supposedly already have. (but we all know how firm tech-related release dates are/not) I was hoping (but not really expecting) to hear from users with deeper pockets about what I think is a killer technology for this type of application. -=Jim=- P.S. I'm building a bookmark list of things people send, and will post here if and when it seems worthwhile. Nothing dramatic yet, but a few mildly interesting things. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 13:33:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03BC37B491 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1061) id C1F7481D09; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:33:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:33:28 -0600 From: David Drum To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundancy... Message-ID: <20010220153328.A76130@elvis.mu.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Drum , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@federation.addy.com on Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 04:04:07PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoth Jim Sander: > Some areas will prohibit you from storing liquid fuel on premisis. > Storing a couple 20lb H2 tanks (or CNG/LPG/propane if the cell can do a > clean conversion for you) is much more acceptable (if no less dangerous > under proper conditions) than a having a big jug of diesel around. I would like to second Jim's comment about the danger of compressed gas tanks. Storing compressed, flammable gas cylinders indoors is equally dangerous/illegal to liquid fuels. While hydrogen will disperse if not enclosed, other gases (propane) will pool at the point of lowest elevation, guaranteeing an eventual concentration sufficient to sustain combustion if ignited (boom). Regards, David Drum david@mu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 14:47:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B480437B401 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:47:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2350 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:44:46 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:44:46 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: David Drum Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundancy... In-Reply-To: <20010220153328.A76130@elvis.mu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, David Drum wrote: > Quoth Jim Sander: > > Some areas will prohibit you from storing liquid fuel on premisis. > > Storing a couple 20lb H2 tanks (or CNG/LPG/propane if the cell can do a > > clean conversion for you) is much more acceptable (if no less dangerous > > under proper conditions) than a having a big jug of diesel around. > > I would like to second Jim's comment about the danger of compressed > gas tanks. Storing compressed, flammable gas cylinders indoors is > equally dangerous/illegal to liquid fuels. While hydrogen will disperse > if not enclosed, other gases (propane) will pool at the point of lowest > elevation, guaranteeing an eventual concentration sufficient to sustain > combustion if ignited (boom). As if we haven't moved far enough off-topic here... Most liquid fuels are toxic and head for the water table when leaked. Most gasses disperse, though they can pool if leaked indoors. Few gassious fuels have the energy/weight or energy/volume ratios that liquid fuels do. It is also easier to double-wall liquid storage tanks and use water-based leak detectors in the interstial cavity thus created. btw: We had a snake that "found" the primary power feeds to a large machine room for one of our customers. No problem, just have all the hosts and Lieberts on a huge UPS long enough to start the very large generator, right? Well, the transfer switch between the generator, UPS, and utility mains died - a critical single point of failure. 25 minutes later we had a dark, warm machine room with dozens of RS/6000s and Compaq servers getting a *very* involuntary shutdown. Cooked a few drives when the A/C stopped. You can't avoid all risk, but you can manage most of it and plan for worst-case. Generators do not remove all UPS and utility power risk. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 16:45:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.i-sphere.com (shell.i-sphere.com [209.249.146.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAA237B401 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:45:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fasty@shell.i-sphere.com) Received: (from fasty@localhost) by shell.i-sphere.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f1L0q7J81911 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:52:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fasty) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:52:07 -0800 From: faSty To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20010220165207.A81873@i-sphere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-isp freebsd-newbies freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 20:58:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from siafu.iconnect.co.ke (upagraha.iconnect.co.ke [209.198.248.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264C237B401 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:58:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wash@poeza.iconnect.co.ke) Received: from [212.22.163.2] (helo=poeza.iconnect.co.ke) by siafu.iconnect.co.ke with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VRKJ-000OOr-00; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:56:31 +0300 Received: from wash by poeza.iconnect.co.ke with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14VRNV-0006Vg-00; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:59:49 +0300 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:59:49 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: FBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Expiring User accounts Message-ID: <20010221075949.A20639@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , Lowell Gilbert , FBSD-ISP References: <20010219210620.A37206@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> <448zn1kpuu.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <448zn1kpuu.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net>; from "Lowell Gilbert" on Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 04:26:49PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD poeza.iconnect.co.ke 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE X-Location: Mombasa, KE, East Africa Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Lowell Gilbert [20010221 00:36]: writing on the su= bject 'Re: Expiring User accounts' Lowell> wash@iconnect.co.ke (Odhiambo Washington) writes: Lowell>=20 Lowell> > I have something that confuses me. Lowell> > I've been playing with chsh so that I have a user account expiring Lowell> > automatically. I set the date month and year but after that the u= ser can Lowell> > still access their e-mail. It is a test that I am doing with port= master Lowell> > login (RADIUS) so i am giving the users a shell called /bin/pmlog= in. Lowell> > This is a proprietary shell that comes with Lucent RADIUS.=3D20 Lowell> > Does anyone have an ideas why this is not working? Or the expiry = is Lowell> > only dependent on the Unix shells, not the proprietary one? Lowell>=20 Lowell> The expiry is dependent on login, not on shells. Lowell> FTP, naturally, doesn't use login. Lowell>=20 Hi Lowell, Will you please elaborate? I had not thought about the ftp side. Lucent (formerly Livingston) RADIUS comes with this shell called pmlogin which is what we assign our dialup users. What I was looking at is something that can help me automatically expire 'trial' accounts. We have many 'trial' accounts but since they are assigned different types of filters (If you know about choicenet) it becomes an administrative overhead to start=20 tracing and removing the accounts. Do you have an idea what others could be using?=20 I'm cc-ing this to freebsd-isp, to which it has now become more relevant than -questions. TIA -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Inter-Connect Ltd., wash@iconnect.co.ke 5th Flr Furaha Plaza Tel: 254 11 222604 Nkrumah Rd., Fax: 254 11 222636 PO Box 83613 MOMBASA, KE. Sometimes, to be silent is to be most eloquent. -Charlston Heston=20 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE6k0tFA2k+MNyI/bERAkdpAJwP0Wgzat8LRKEKEJFRlWB/9QrUbQCXeDDR vfaavQFZgvQw6u2PT+n1SQ== =fmnw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 22:27: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9970C37B491 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:27:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VS0S-0002Fh-00; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:40:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:40:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: David Drum Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundancy... In-Reply-To: <20010220153328.A76130@elvis.mu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, David Drum wrote: > Quoth Jim Sander: > > > Some areas will prohibit you from storing liquid fuel on premisis. > > Storing a couple 20lb H2 tanks (or CNG/LPG/propane if the cell can do a > > clean conversion for you) is much more acceptable (if no less dangerous > > under proper conditions) than a having a big jug of diesel around. > > I would like to second Jim's comment about the danger of compressed > gas tanks. Storing compressed, flammable gas cylinders indoors is > equally dangerous/illegal to liquid fuels. While hydrogen will disperse > if not enclosed, other gases (propane) will pool at the point of lowest > elevation, guaranteeing an eventual concentration sufficient to sustain > combustion if ignited (boom). Jim seems to be saying quite the opposite of what you are saying. I certainly disagree with Jim: there are no conditions under which diesel is not safer than any compressed gas or liquified gas (natural gas, propane, hydrogen). Has the world forgotten the lesson of the Hindenberg already? However, environmentally speaking, diesel may not be as good as some kind of gas (propane or natural gas). I know a local company is working on converting large industrial diesel motors (16 cylinder) to hybrid fuel that use a mixture of diesel and natural gas. Lots of cost and enviromental savings. This company is designing these things to be used on generators into the 1 megawatt range. Enough to power about a 1000 houses, or a LOT of FreeBSD servers. Now, back to something more on topic... > Regards, > > David Drum > david@mu.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 20 23: 0:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (ftp.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5205D37B491 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id nkhaaaaa for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:00:06 +1100 Message-ID: <3A9367E2.77F7A4DF@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:01:54 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundancy... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What I dont get with all this is, you stated before that you have had two days of downtime in 3 years... That seems fairly good to me, how can you justify the cost of co-location etc of your servers when you have only had two days of down time in 3 years?! If there was no power to your office, then you werent doing any work anyway... Are your servers that critical that even a few hours of down time is too great? It just seems like a big waste of money to keep 5 servers running when you wont be able to work on them anyway without power... Cheers Everyone! Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 0:56:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A4737B503 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:56:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davew@sai.co.za) Received: from dave ([196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (SBMail MTA v2.11(1142) SMTPD32) with ESMTP id AA9376; for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:14:36 0200 (South Africa Standard Time) From: "David Wilson" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Subject: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:15:36 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C09BE6.D9BB7BA0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C09BE6.D9BB7BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys, howzit going ? Any ideas on how to filter connections to ftpd based on mac address ? ;-) I have looked into ipfw and tcp wrappers, but both only seem to be able to do IP addresses. Any guidance would be most welcome. Thanks. 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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:52:57 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C09BF4.73984B60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C09BF4.73984B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys, howzit going ? A client wants us to configure a FreeBSD server as an FTP server only. The clients that will connect will have static IP addresses. I can use tcp wrappers, and ipfw to do firewalling and closing of all access except to tcp port 21 from static IP clients. What other security options can I look at to make this an extremely secure FTP server ? Thanks. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Hi guys, howzit going ? > >A client wants us to configure a FreeBSD server as an FTP server only. >The clients that will connect will have static IP addresses. >I can use tcp wrappers, and ipfw to do firewalling and closing of all acces= s >except to tcp port 21 from static IP clients. >What other security options can I look at to make this an extremely secure >FTP server ? >Thanks. > > >Kindest regards >David Wilson >The S.A Internet >You are contradicting yourself. FTP is by nature not secure. Use scftp instead. -- Micheal O Shea ----------------------------------------------------- com-o-tronic ag Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer Gewerbepark CH-5506 M=E4genwil E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch Voice: +41 62 887 3734 =46ax: +41 62 896 1133 Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 2:26: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at (home.geizhals.at [213.229.14.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF8337B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 02:26:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from satyr@TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at) Received: from satyr by TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VWUx-0001zd-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:27:51 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:27:51 +0100 From: "Marinos J . Yannikos" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: "no memory for tx list"? Message-ID: <20010221112750.A5963@TK147108.geizhals.at> Reply-To: nino@inode.at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Our web server just went offline after the following kernel warnings: > Feb 21 11:02:59 c0w /kernel: vr0: no memory for tx list > Feb 21 11:03:30 c0w last message repeated 11 times Is this the result of a new kind of DoS attack? The server has 1 GB RAM and runs 4.1.1-STABLE, the kernel parameters are supposedly set up to handle the traffic of a busy web server. Any hints? netstat -m shows that the peak number of mbuf clusters was the max (4608), so that was the problem. What would be a safe high value for NMBCLUSTERS? Thanks, Marinos -- ***==> Marinos J. Yannikos ***==> http://pobox.com/~mjy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 6:30:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C35737B503 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:30:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davew@sai.co.za) Received: from dave ([196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (SBMail MTA v2.11(1142) SMTPD32) with ESMTP id AA9376; for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:29:36 0200 (South Africa Standard Time) From: "David Wilson" To: "Michael O Shea" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Subject: RE: Secure FTP server, as secure as possible ? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:30:35 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org lol, I thought that would happen, my mistake ;-) When I mean secure I mean... secure not in the sense of "secure shell" or "Secure sockets layer" or anything that requires enryption.But secure in terms of being able to withstand DOS attacks, general exploits etc. Thanks for the info anyways. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael O Shea Sent: 21 February 2001 11:41 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Secure FTP server, as secure as possible ? >Hi guys, howzit going ? > >A client wants us to configure a FreeBSD server as an FTP server only. >The clients that will connect will have static IP addresses. >I can use tcp wrappers, and ipfw to do firewalling and closing of all access >except to tcp port 21 from static IP clients. >What other security options can I look at to make this an extremely secure >FTP server ? >Thanks. > > >Kindest regards >David Wilson >The S.A Internet >You are contradicting yourself. FTP is by nature not secure. Use scftp instead. -- Micheal O Shea ----------------------------------------------------- com-o-tronic ag Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer Gewerbepark CH-5506 Mägenwil E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch Voice: +41 62 887 3734 Fax: +41 62 896 1133 Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 6:48: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [208.11.142.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD6A37B491 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA31996 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:48:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:48:00 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Sander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... final(?) summary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > much ado about fuel-cell technology It seems that my question has been answered with a silent "no." Nobody seems to have any real experience with commercially available fuel-cell technology products, at least in a format that is appropriate for my situation. A 125KW system is a bit much for a handful of servers! :) I guess this is simply wanting what doesn't (yet) exist- in another year perhaps things will be different. Some good FAQS to start with... http://www.fuelcells.org/ Everything I got through other sources can also be accessed from there. > comments about safety, etc. CO2 emissions still need to be vented to the atmosphere, unless you are into suffocation. Even though H2 fuel-cells produce only H2O and heat, the conversion of LPG or propane to H2 usually results in some CO2 and other "trace" HC emissions- whether this ends up being significant is dependent upon the situation. (in most cases I suspect it is, but I'm no expert) About the Hindenburg reference... modern research about the disaster points away from H2 being the cause. Just FYI of course- http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/flash/hindenburg_script.html Anything flammable is dangerous if you store or use it incorrectly. When storing any fuel, you need to address safety. Local laws may regulate what you can legally do at your location, regardless of what is really safe. Lighter or heaver than air gases will only affect whether the room fills from the top down or the bottom up. (gulp!) > practicality and cost Fuel-cells are, and for the foreseeable future will continue to be, relatively expensive. An equivalent amount of energy from internal combustion sources will cost significantly less. That may change as technology improves and is mass produced, so eventually the fuel-cell's advantages will outweigh its increased cost. Personally, I'd pay more for clean power without a lot of complaint, assuming fuel-cells don't have "hidden" environmental impact. (probably a false assumption) I also would be more comfortable storing propane, CNG, or even H2 than I would compared to gasoline or even the less volatile diesel. My gas grill seems a lot safer than my lawn mower, even if it's really not- I think the parallel holds between generator and a fuel cell. -=Jim=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 7:57:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-6.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2A937B6A6 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:57:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA81286 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:57:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bill) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:57:21 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redundancy... final(?) summary Message-ID: <20010221105721.C80831@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@bilver.wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@federation.addy.com on Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 09:48:00AM -0500 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 09:48:00AM -0500, Jim Sander thus spoke: > > much ado about fuel-cell technology > It seems that my question has been answered with a silent > "no." Nobody seems to have any real experience with commercially > available fuel-cell technology products, at least in a format > that is appropriate for my situation. A 125KW system is a bit > much for a handful of servers! :) I guess this is simply wanting > what doesn't (yet) exist- in another year perhaps things will be > different. Off of fuel-cell for a moment - as part of this thread was concerned with generator backup. A site to check is www.onan.com Onan has been in power-generation forever - so it seems. They were in use in broadcast - two careers ago for me - and had been around forever when I came across them. Generation available from 2000 watts to 2 million watts, in various fueling environments, gas, LP and diesel. At one time - the BEST UPS had systems paired with Onan generators for a complete package. Not cheap but rugged and reliable. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 8: 7:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-6.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CA037B4EC for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:07:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA81427; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:05:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bill) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:05:01 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: Tom Samplonius Cc: David Drum , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Off Topic - was Re: Redundancy... Message-ID: <20010221110500.D80831@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@bilver.wjv.com References: <20010220153328.A76130@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tom@sdf.com on Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 09:40:01PM -0800 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 09:40:01PM -0800, Tom Samplonius thus spoke: > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, David Drum wrote: > > Quoth Jim Sander: > > > Some areas will prohibit you from storing liquid fuel on > > > premisis. .... > > I would like to second Jim's comment about the danger of > > compressed gas tanks. Storing compressed, flammable gas > > cylinders indoors is equally dangerous/illegal to liquid > > fuels. While hydrogen will disperse if not enclosed, other > > gases (propane) will pool at the point of lowest elevation, > > guaranteeing an eventual concentration sufficient to sustain > > combustion if ignited (boom). > I certainly disagree with Jim: there are no conditions under > which diesel is not safer than any compressed gas or liquified > gas (natural gas, propane, hydrogen). Has the world forgotten the > lesson of the Hindenberg already? Off-topic here - but discussion in the past couple of years indicates the destructive fire on the Hindenberg may have the ferrociousness of the fire placed more on the 'paint' covering the fabric made of aluminum particles and other ingredients - which I've forgotten at the moment [damn cold medicince] - and are ingredients used in rocket fuels. -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 8:21:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.amplex.net (mailsrv.amplex.net [209.57.124.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C468E37B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:21:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@amplex.net) Received: from marklaptop (office-7.amplex.net [209.57.221.7]) (authenticated) by mailsrv.amplex.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1LGLNe11086 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:21:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: Subject: RE: Off Topic - was Re: Redundancy... Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010221110500.D80831@wjv.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just out of curiosity (and it won't help with what the original post was looking for) has anyone used the Caterpillar UPS system -- the one with the giant flywheel running a generator? It looks really slick. Mark Radabaugh VP, Amplex (419)833-3635 mark@amplex.net > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 8:22: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (ra.upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10AF37B698 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:21:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Received: from ocsinternet.com (localhost.upan.org [127.0.0.1]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LGNLT26017; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:23:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3A93EB78.C385038E@ocsinternet.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:23:21 -0500 From: Mikel King Organization: OCS Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Sander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundancy... final(?) summary References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim, I'm curious have you looked into solar? cheers, mikel Jim Sander wrote: > > much ado about fuel-cell technology > > It seems that my question has been answered with a silent "no." Nobody > seems to have any real experience with commercially available fuel-cell > technology products, at least in a format that is appropriate for my > situation. A 125KW system is a bit much for a handful of servers! :) I > guess this is simply wanting what doesn't (yet) exist- in another year > perhaps things will be different. > > Some good FAQS to start with... > http://www.fuelcells.org/ > > Everything I got through other sources can also be accessed from there. > > > comments about safety, etc. > > CO2 emissions still need to be vented to the atmosphere, unless you are > into suffocation. Even though H2 fuel-cells produce only H2O and heat, the > conversion of LPG or propane to H2 usually results in some CO2 and other > "trace" HC emissions- whether this ends up being significant is dependent > upon the situation. (in most cases I suspect it is, but I'm no expert) > > About the Hindenburg reference... modern research about the disaster > points away from H2 being the cause. Just FYI of course- > http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/flash/hindenburg_script.html > > Anything flammable is dangerous if you store or use it incorrectly. > When storing any fuel, you need to address safety. Local laws may regulate > what you can legally do at your location, regardless of what is really > safe. Lighter or heaver than air gases will only affect whether the room > fills from the top down or the bottom up. (gulp!) > > > practicality and cost > > Fuel-cells are, and for the foreseeable future will continue to be, > relatively expensive. An equivalent amount of energy from internal > combustion sources will cost significantly less. That may change as > technology improves and is mass produced, so eventually the fuel-cell's > advantages will outweigh its increased cost. > > Personally, I'd pay more for clean power without a lot of complaint, > assuming fuel-cells don't have "hidden" environmental impact. (probably a > false assumption) I also would be more comfortable storing propane, CNG, > or even H2 than I would compared to gasoline or even the less volatile > diesel. My gas grill seems a lot safer than my lawn mower, even if it's > really not- I think the parallel holds between generator and a fuel cell. > > -=Jim=- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 8:29: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (ra.upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C51B37B503 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:29:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Received: from ocsinternet.com (localhost.upan.org [127.0.0.1]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LGUST26064; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:30:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3A93ED24.B2BA7AFF@ocsinternet.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:30:28 -0500 From: Mikel King Organization: OCS Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bv@wjv.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundancy... final(?) summary References: <20010221105721.C80831@wjv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also check out Lister they make some really low maintenance gensets, including aircooled gensets. http://www.lister-petter.co.uk/Home_Page.htm cheers, Mikel Bill Vermillion wrote: > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 09:48:00AM -0500, Jim Sander thus spoke: > > > much ado about fuel-cell technology > > > It seems that my question has been answered with a silent > > "no." Nobody seems to have any real experience with commercially > > available fuel-cell technology products, at least in a format > > that is appropriate for my situation. A 125KW system is a bit > > much for a handful of servers! :) I guess this is simply wanting > > what doesn't (yet) exist- in another year perhaps things will be > > different. > > Off of fuel-cell for a moment - as part of this thread was > concerned with generator backup. > > A site to check is www.onan.com Onan has been in > power-generation forever - so it seems. They were in use > in broadcast - two careers ago for me - and had been around forever > when I came across them. Generation available from 2000 watts > to 2 million watts, in various fueling environments, gas, LP and > diesel. > > At one time - the BEST UPS had systems paired with Onan generators > for a complete package. Not cheap but rugged and reliable. > > Bill > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 8:32:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D38C37B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f1LGQ6t04058; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:26:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.203 ( [63.205.16.203]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:26:05 -0800 Message-ID: <982772765.3a93ec1df0c17@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:26:05 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: David Wilson Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs X-Originating-IP: 63.205.16.203 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm interested in doing something similar to control users on 802.11b wireless. the mac address is the only solution I have thought of but haven't started development on. ed Quoting David Wilson : > Hi guys, howzit going ? > > Any ideas on how to filter connections to ftpd based on mac address ? ;-) > I have looked into ipfw and tcp wrappers, but both only seem to be able to > do IP addresses. > Any guidance would be most welcome. > Thanks. > > > Kindest regards > David Wilson > The S.A Internet > > > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net ------------------------------------------------- EnContacto.Net - CafeMania.Net - InternetSalon.Org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 8:35:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from black.purplecat.net (ns1.purplecat.net [209.16.228.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0963637B491 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@black.purplecat.net) Received: from localhost (peter@localhost) by black.purplecat.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04870 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:37:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from peter@black.purplecat.net) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:37:44 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Brezny To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Redundancy... final(?) summary Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you don't have Huge UPS needs but much bigger than a big expensive ups, have a look at this: http://tripplite.com/whatsnew/powerverter_aps.cfm The folks at tripplite tell me that this little guy has the same electronics that their ups units designed specifically for computers have. The nifty thing is that you can hook as many 12 volt car batteries onto it as you like, giving you as much backup time as you like. You just need a separate location for the batteries to live (sulfuric acid fumes not to great for computers). Not to mention, a couple of solar pannels hooked up to those batteries, and you've got power for as long as there is sun. Peter Brezny SysAdmin Services Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill Vermillion Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:57 AM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redundancy... final(?) summary On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 09:48:00AM -0500, Jim Sander thus spoke: > > much ado about fuel-cell technology > It seems that my question has been answered with a silent > "no." Nobody seems to have any real experience with commercially > available fuel-cell technology products, at least in a format > that is appropriate for my situation. A 125KW system is a bit > much for a handful of servers! :) I guess this is simply wanting > what doesn't (yet) exist- in another year perhaps things will be > different. Off of fuel-cell for a moment - as part of this thread was concerned with generator backup. A site to check is www.onan.com Onan has been in power-generation forever - so it seems. They were in use in broadcast - two careers ago for me - and had been around forever when I came across them. Generation available from 2000 watts to 2 million watts, in various fueling environments, gas, LP and diesel. At one time - the BEST UPS had systems paired with Onan generators for a complete package. Not cheap but rugged and reliable. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 11:53:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [208.11.142.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C5F37B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:53:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA62714 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:53:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:53:38 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Sander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... final(?) summary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > solar The problem I see is you still need big batteries. It's unlikely that output from panels will be enough to run significant amounts of equipment, so you're really just extending the run-time of your UPSs. (probably only fractionally) Plus, if your power is out due to a storm there's not going to be a lot of sunshine, so you get zero benefit. I can't imagine having cells to back you up between holes in the clouds, and having high enough capacity panels to quickly recharge the batteries would be very affordable. Again, an emerging technology to watch- but supposedly affordable and useful fuel cells are much closer at hand. (depending upon who you believe of course) > http://tripplite.com/whatsnew/powerverter_aps.cfm I'm not sure of the technology limitations, but I bet you could use sealed cells (no fumes) or non lead-acid batteries, at (greatly) increased expense of course. (teleco grade cells, not automotive) Again, you'll need literally a room full of batteries for long-term outage protection. It's another possibility though, even if it's an expensive one. So that brings us back to fuel-cells which seem like the perfect merger of short-term and long-term power interrupt protection. Until then, or something else interesting becomes available I guess UPSs on every box, and a generator for long-term use is still the most reasonable solution. -=Jim=- P.S. Random thought... the other way to attack this problem is to reduce consumption. Single-chip servers with flash storage could be powered by flashlight batteries. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 12:32:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from oneway.com (daedal.oneway.com [205.252.89.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7683537B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:32:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by oneway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18439; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:35:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:35:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jay Kuri To: Jim Sander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Redundancy... final(?) summary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > P.S. Random thought... the other way to attack this problem is to reduce > consumption. Single-chip servers with flash storage could be > powered by flashlight batteries. :) Funny you should mention that. I was thinking about this as I read this thread. A while back (about a year ago, now) I did this. We built a AMD powered server with flash drive and a battery-backed power supply. It worked pretty well and had a tiny power draw. We used these ATX-style power supplies with a built in battery backup. They were rated to run a 'normal' server (with hard drive AND monitor) for like an hour. On our machines they ran much longer. They had a Serial interface so you could tell when they switched to battery and when they were likely to run out of juice. Very neat. They ran great... and I don't think we had an outage that lasted longer than the batteries... I think about 4 hours was the top I saw. I don't work there any more, but I managed to dig up the info... so here it is if you are interested: http://ipps.amsdell.com/ 877-267-3355 IPPSCommander - part number IPAM-002 Ours was customised a bit (different power connector) but they have a 'standard' version. Jay - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - UNIX: because reboots are for hardware upgrades Jay Kuri jay@oneway.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 13:59:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8F037B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:59:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id HAA19675; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au( 147.132.21.132) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma019614; Thu, 22 Feb 01 07:59:06 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA59416; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:04 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: David Wilson Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C09BE6.D9BB7BA0" Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C09BE6.D9BB7BA0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, Filtering on MAC address is very restricted. You can only do machines on the same network segment. After that all you see is the router's MAC address. 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In-Reply-To: <20010221112750.A5963@TK147108.geizhals.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Marinos J . Yannikos wrote: > Any hints? netstat -m shows that the peak number of mbuf clusters was the max > (4608), so that was the problem. What would be a safe high value for > NMBCLUSTERS? I run a squid box with 256MB ram and NMBCLUSTERS=8192. Colin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 16: 3:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD0C37B491 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:03:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f1M03H783990 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:03:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f1M03Gm83984 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:03:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1M037x83426 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:03:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <00e201c09c62$fbd45aa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: Mirrorred webservers: Updating, logging. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:04:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f1M03Gm83984 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're thinking about mirroring our webservers for redundancy. There exist different solutions, however, I have not seen any mentioning on how to update the sites; the customers shouldn't have to update two sites; it should work transparently. Another thing is logging. How do I produce a statistic with eg webalyzer when two or more servers are producing their own logfile? For updating, I think I should assign one server in the cluster the role as master, and restrict the users to only be able to update that server, be it by frontpage, ftp or whatever. Would running rdist or something like that on several GB's of webpages be possible? Or should a daemon watch ftp-logs, and trigger the replication on only changed virtual servers? I'm not sure Frontpage creates a logfile which could be used. Having the customer pressing a button on a cgi to start replicating would be forgotten too often, I think. Regarding logging, I think we should have a separate statistic-server. Each server would generate its own logfile, and once every night transfer the logfile to the stat-server. The statserver would then merge the logfiles from all the mirrors, and feed the combined file to webalizer. Webalizer doesn't like the time in the logfile to go backwards, so the logfiles need to be combined in time-order; they can't be processed sequentially. Comments, please... Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 16:40:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E74B37B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:40:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA01885; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:33:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:33:33 -0500 (EST) From: To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mirrorred webservers: Updating, logging. In-Reply-To: <00e201c09c62$fbd45aa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think rsync + ssh would be doable. Rsync is pretty effective. Although with GB's of data this might not work. But I wouldnt know how else to sync data from one server to another any other that would be better. ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tommorow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 16:50:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns0.sitesnow.com (ns0.sitesnow.com [63.166.182.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFD937B4EC for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:50:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gskouby@ns0.sitesnow.com) Received: from gskouby by ns0.sitesnow.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Vjx1-000IF4-00; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:49:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:49:43 -0500 From: Greg Skouby To: scanner@jurai.net Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mirrorred webservers: Updating, logging. Message-ID: <20010221194943.A70110@sitesnow.com> References: <00e201c09c62$fbd45aa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from scanner@jurai.net on Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:33:33PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You would only have to rsync the GB's of data once to start the whole thing and then rsync just the changes on subsequent syncs. Not a bad way to go at all IMHO. Greg On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:33:33PM -0500, scanner@jurai.net wrote: > > I think rsync + ssh would be doable. Rsync is pretty effective. > Although with GB's of data this might not work. But I wouldnt know how > else to sync data from one server to another any other that would be > better. > > ============================================================================= > -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek > Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas > Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net > ============================================================================= > WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" > LINUX: "Where do you want to go tommorow?" > BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" > ============================================================================= > irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! > ICQ: 20016186 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 17:15:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wildcatblue.com (flanders.wildcatblue.com [206.157.147.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091C37B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:15:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sdrhodus@wildcatblue.com) Received: from vghk (p1mp.vghk.e-xtreme.org [206.157.147.77]) by wildcatblue.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 67D6685B03; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:18:13 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000001c09c6c$88337a90$577afea9@vghk> From: "david rhodus" To: "Odhiambo Washington" Cc: References: <20010219210620.A37206@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> <448zn1kpuu.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> <20010221075949.A20639@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> Subject: Re: Expiring User accounts Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:55:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wish I could have something that would turn my users off after 200 hours of being online. I'm using radius to acut. them. Yet I don't know of anything yet that could do it. Is this kinda what your talking about? Does anyone else know how to do this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Lowell Gilbert" Cc: "FBSD-ISP" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:59 PM Subject: Re: Expiring User accounts To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 21 21:22:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A79537B401 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 47903 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2001 13:22:48 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (209.100.22.250) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2001 13:22:48 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "Laurence Berland" , "Clark Shishido" Cc: "Peter Brezny" , Subject: RE: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:22:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3A909F0D.549C38D1@confusion.net> Importance: Normal X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by Pulaski Networks (http://www.psknet.com) using AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Control Panel > Networking > Connection Properties > TCP/IP Properties > Advanced > DNS > Register this connection's addresses in DNS HTH, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 They told me to think out of the box, but I tripped over it, now I own my own company. ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Laurence Berland ** Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:20 PM ** To: Clark Shishido ** Cc: Peter Brezny; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** Subject: Re: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers ** ** ** ** ** Clark Shishido wrote: ** ** > it's the lovely magic of DDNS which is part of ActiveDirectory. ** > default Windows2000 Server installation turns it on by default. ** > you're going to have to learn some Windows2000. ** ** Specifically, you've got some registry digging to do. I am pretty sure ** there is no checkbox or control panel to set this on, and of course no ** config files (dont it make you wish everything was UNIX?) ** ** -- ** Laurence Berland ** Intern, Flooz.com ** Northwestern '04 ** stuyman@confusion.net ** http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/~laurence ** ** "The world has turned and left me here" ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 1:25:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sco.COM (scol.london.sco.COM [150.126.1.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFEDE37B401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:25:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aris@sco.COM) Received: from severn.london.sco.COM(150.126.20.2), claiming to be "severn.sco.com" via SMTP by scol.london.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa000xp; Thu Feb 22 09:24:28 2001 Received: from uradoos.london.sco.com by severn.sco.com with smtp id aa08467 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 9:23:31 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3A94DC43.D792037A@sco.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:30:43 +0000 From: Aris Stathakis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-CCK-MCD Caldera Systems OpenLinux [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mirrorred webservers: Updating, logging. References: <00e201c09c62$fbd45aa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> <20010221194943.A70110@sitesnow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp-mirror could also be a solution. Aris Greg Skouby wrote: > > You would only have to rsync the GB's of data once to start the whole thing > and then rsync just the changes on subsequent syncs. Not a bad way to go at all > IMHO. > > Greg > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at > 07:33:33PM -0500, scanner@jurai.net wrote: > > > > I think rsync + ssh would be doable. Rsync is pretty effective. > > Although with GB's of data this might not work. But I wouldnt know how > > else to sync data from one server to another any other that would be > > better. > > > > ============================================================================= > > -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek > > Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas > > Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net > > ============================================================================= > > WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" > > LINUX: "Where do you want to go tommorow?" > > BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" > > ============================================================================= > > irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! > > ICQ: 20016186 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 3: 7:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from metva.com.au (metva.com.au [202.0.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBBC37B401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:07:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from enno.davids@metva.com.au) Received: (from enno@localhost) by metva.com.au id WAA16826; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:05:50 +1100 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <200102221105.WAA16826@metva.com.au> Subject: Re: Mirrorred webservers: Updating, logging. In-Reply-To: <00e201c09c62$fbd45aa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> from Leif Neland at "Feb 22, 1 01:04:10 am" To: leif@neland.dk Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:05:50 +1100 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | There exist different solutions, however, I have not seen any mentioning on how to update the sites; the customers shouldn't have to update two sites; it should work transparently. We use a ataging server. (Or it could be a virtual host). The customer installs their content to the staging host, tests it in place and when they're happy they go to some PHP pages which kick off rsync/ssh to all the relevant hosts (currently 2, about to become 6). | Another thing is logging. How do I produce a statistic with eg webalyzer when two or more servers are producing their own logfile? We use the CustomLog directive to produce Common Log Format with an extra field at the front which is YYYMMDDHHMMSS. This then allows us to merge/sort the logs of a bunch of servers together to make one unifed log which we pass through cut to discard the first field leaving CLF for webalizer etc. | For updating, I think I should assign one server in the cluster the role as master, and restrict the users to only be able to update that server, be it by frontpage, ftp or whatever. That would work. Being able to go the other way provides cheap recovery too. | Would running rdist or something like that on several GB's of webpages be possible? rsync is more bandwidth efficient as it only copies changed files and then if set that way, only changed portions of changed files (i.e. if a few blocks in the middle are the noly difference, that can be all it sends). That then means you seldom send Gb of data as your customers seldom replace that much of the site in one go. | Having the customer pressing a button on a cgi to start replicating would be forgotten too often, I think. In our environment we have the QA step on the staging host. Content doesn't get into production without approval from the content owner and that approval comes in the form of using the PHP content push page(s). | Regarding logging, I think we should have a separate statistic-server. Each server would generate its own logfile, and once every night transfer the logfile to the stat-server. The statserver would then merge the logfiles from all the mirrors, and feed the combined file to webalizer. And we use the staging host to do this too in fact. Few content owners are logged in at midnight! :) | Webalizer doesn't like the time in the logfile to go backwards, so the logfiles need to be combined in time-order; they can't be processed sequentially. Later versions cope by simply attributing all traffic to the most recent time they've seen, causing spikes in the graphs. THings like click trail analyses in Webtrends react poorly to out of order data too though. You need to sort it. | Comments, please... | | Leif Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 7:20:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.chartermi.net (060upc075.chartermi.net [24.213.60.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA59137B401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wrath@shianet.org) Received: from danrc ([24.247.68.118]) by mail.chartermi.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70727U39742L26062S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:27:34 -0500 Message-ID: <00a701c09c7f$65c9af70$0101a8c0@fear.wrath.net> From: "Brian" To: References: Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:27:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't understand how this can be true. Why would you only be able to see the router's MAC? Maybe I'm more clueless than I thought. brian@wrath.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Campbell" To: "David Wilson" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? > Hi, > > Filtering on MAC address is very restricted. You can only do machines on > the same network segment. After that all you see is the router's MAC > address. > > Colin > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, David Wilson wrote: > > > Hi guys, howzit going ? > > > > Any ideas on how to filter connections to ftpd based on mac address ? ;-) > > I have looked into ipfw and tcp wrappers, but both only seem to be able to > > do IP addresses. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 7:40:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.tecc.co.uk (luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4840E37B401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:40:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@tecc.co.uk) Received: from fw-smtp.tecc.co.uk [195.217.37.39] by relay.tecc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 14Vxqm-00000Q-00; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:40:12 +0000 Received: from [195.217.37.155] (helo=southampton) by fw-smtp.tecc.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 14Vxor-0001uM-00; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:38:13 +0000 From: "Andy [TECC NOPS]" To: "Brian" , Subject: RE: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:43:47 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <00a701c09c7f$65c9af70$0101a8c0@fear.wrath.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org because the router is the gateway. When packets enter your LAN from the outside world they are actually coming from the ethernet port of your router. The IP address will appear to have come from the outside, but mac addresses are always local to the LAN they travel on. That's why routers are called just that, they route packets across LANs (mainly). Ak > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Brian > Sent: 22 February 2001 03:28 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? > > > I don't understand how this can be true. Why would you only be > able to see > the router's MAC? Maybe I'm more clueless than I thought. > > brian@wrath.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Campbell" > To: "David Wilson" > Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? > > > > Hi, > > > > Filtering on MAC address is very restricted. You can only do machines on > > the same network segment. After that all you see is the router's MAC > > address. > > > > Colin > > > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, David Wilson wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, howzit going ? > > > > > > Any ideas on how to filter connections to ftpd based on mac address ? > ;-) > > > I have looked into ipfw and tcp wrappers, but both only seem > to be able > to > > > do IP addresses. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 8:55:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from et-gw.etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D6437B65D for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by et-gw.etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06447; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:03:59 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010222115920.043cd3f0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:06:32 -0500 To: Colin Campbell , David Wilson From: Dennis Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:59 PM 02/21/2001, Colin Campbell wrote: >Hi, > >Filtering on MAC address is very restricted. You can only do machines on >the same network segment. After that all you see is the router's MAC >address. > >Colin This is a somewhat short-sighted view of the world with today's multitude of "bridged" environments. for example, DSL and wireless links are usually bridged, so your customers MAC addresses are appearing on your network. Many of the customers for our ET/BWMGR for freebsd, which allows filtering and bandwidth management by MAC address, use our product to: 1) Only allow specific MAC address access to the network or service 2) Only allow specific devices access to an internal server 3) Control traffic by MAC address. This works nicely whether you are controller the customers router/proxy and there are many workstations behind it, or whether they have individual machines and you are using DHCP to allocate addresses. 4) Keep track of how much traffic each MAC address/customers uses for info, see www.etinc.com regards, Dennis Baasch > On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, David Wilson wrote: > > > Hi guys, howzit going ? > > > > Any ideas on how to filter connections to ftpd based on mac address ? ;-) > > I have looked into ipfw and tcp wrappers, but both only seem to be able to > > do IP addresses. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 9:13:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from humid.lightning.net (humid.lightning.net [209.51.160.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7FE737B491 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:13:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreddy@lightning.net) Received: (qmail 89948 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 17:10:12 -0000 Received: from nut.lightning.net (209.51.160.16) by humid.lightning.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 17:10:12 -0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010222115101.00aa29a0@mailhost.lightning.net> X-Sender: jreddy@lightning.net@mailhost.lightning.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:05:18 -0500 To: From: John Reddy Subject: RE: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers In-Reply-To: References: <3A909F0D.549C38D1@confusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What about a scenario of a user base of tens of thousands, via DSL, cable modem, dialup, etc. Getting hundreds or thousands of customers with Win2k running, and running dynamic update. That's the situation that needs to be addressed. Going to all my customers to tell them what to do isn't quite the answer I'm hoping for. What can I do from my end, in terms of commands in BIND to prevent logging of these updates? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 9:17:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from harp.wrdp.com (harp.dublin.wrdp.net [212.147.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D7A37B491 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:17:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jraftery@wrdp.com) Received: from JRAFTERY (jraftery.dublin.wrdp.net [172.16.4.52]) by harp.wrdp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A86010AC3 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:17:20 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <013a01c09cf3$b72846f0$340410ac@JRAFTERY> From: "James Raftery" To: References: <3A909F0D.549C38D1@confusion.net> <5.0.2.1.2.20010222115101.00aa29a0@mailhost.lightning.net> Subject: Re: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:20:12 -0000 Organization: Worldport Communications Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Reddy" To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: RE: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers > What can I do from my end, in terms of commands in BIND to prevent logging > of these updates? Add to your named.conf: logging { [...] category update { null; }; [...] }; Regards, james To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 9:29:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sixpence.mtcibs.com (sixpence.solveinteractive.com [204.62.227.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D6F37B503 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:29:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rch@solveinteractive.com) Received: from gold.mtcibs.com (gold [204.62.225.30]) by sixpence.mtcibs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11744 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:29:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.solveinteractive.com (trinity.solveinteractive.com [204.62.225.170]) by gold.mtcibs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00913 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:29:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rch@localhost) by trinity.solveinteractive.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f1MHTli46684 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:29:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rch@solveinteractive.com) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:29:42 -0500 From: Robert Hough To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: annoying denied dns updates from lame nt/2000 servers Message-ID: <20010222122942.A46614@solveinteractive.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3A909F0D.549C38D1@confusion.net> <5.0.2.1.2.20010222115101.00aa29a0@mailhost.lightning.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010222115101.00aa29a0@mailhost.lightning.net>; from jreddy@lightning.net on Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:05:18 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 22, 2001, John Reddy wrote: > > What about a scenario of a user base of tens of thousands, via DSL, cable > modem, dialup, etc. Getting hundreds or thousands of customers with Win2k > running, and running dynamic update. Just curious, but couldn't you just use ip filters to block this stuff in the first place? Dirty fix for this problem is just remove the log messages from the source. In the ns_update.c, you'll find something like this: ns_notice(ns_log_security, "denied update from %s for \"%s\"", like I said, not exactly a graceful way of doing things, but hey - if it bugs/worries you that much... :) -- Robert Hough (rch@solveinteractive.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 10:28:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F2937B401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:28:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davew@sai.co.za) Received: from dave ([196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (SBMail MTA v2.11(1142) SMTPD32) with ESMTP id AA9376; for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:25:41 0200 (South Africa Standard Time) From: "David Wilson" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Cc: "Sendmail-Questions" Subject: MS SQL replicated to MySQL Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:26:24 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0161_01C09D0D.BB59E3E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0161_01C09D0D.BB59E3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys, I'm running qpopper+mysql+exim patch which allows pop3 logins etc. via a MySQL database. All my user are on MS SQL, thus I have to manually import data to MySQL It works brilliantly, the only problem is that I need to now continuosly import the users from MS SQL to MySQL Is there anyway to replicate MS SQL data to MySQL. Or maybe I should switch to some type of sendmail arrangement that supports ODBC ? Thanks Any guidance would be appreciated. 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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:14:30 -0600 Message-ID: <29465.982872870@euclid.cs.niu.edu> From: Neil W Rickert Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "David Wilson" wrote: >I'm running qpopper+mysql+exim patch which allows pop3 logins etc. via a >MySQL database. >All my user are on MS SQL, thus I have to manually import data to MySQL >It works brilliantly, the only problem is that I need to now continuosly >import the users from MS SQL to MySQL >Is there anyway to replicate MS SQL data to MySQL. >Or maybe I should switch to some type of sendmail arrangement that supports >ODBC ? If you are using exim instead of sendmail, and if the problem has to do with pop3 logins, why would you imagine that your question has anything at all to do with sendmail? -NWR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 15:25:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABD537B401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:25:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f1MNPq670046 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:25:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f1MNPqW70040 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:25:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1MNPYx89650 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:25:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <011401c09d26$ed0c53a0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: Which pc-vpn-client for FreeBSD (and linux) server Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:26:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f1MNPqW70040 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, it appears the concensus is that Lucent Ipsec client can't be used with FreeBSD server. Which pc-client can I then use, with what on the server? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 16:39:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mauigateway.com (mail.mauigateway.com [205.166.249.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E18B37B401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:39:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysop@mauigateway.com) Received: from mauigateway.com (mgate-195.mauigateway.com [205.166.249.195]) by mail.mauigateway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA80112 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:57:13 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from sysop@mauigateway.com) Message-ID: <3A95B12D.135CC70F@mauigateway.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:39:09 -1000 From: George Fontaine Reply-To: sysop@mauigateway.com Organization: Maui Gateway X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD ezn/58/n (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: DS3 ATM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know of a card that works well with freebsd that can support DS3 ATM? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 19: 5:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snake.supranet.net (snake.supranet.net [205.164.160.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B68C37B401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:05:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@snake.supranet.net) Received: from localhost (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snake.supranet.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1N35QR16317 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:05:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@snake.supranet.net) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:05:26 -0600 (CST) From: John Heyer X-Sender: john@snake.supranet.net To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: natd -reverse In-Reply-To: <011401c09d26$ed0c53a0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anybody know what firewall rules I should be using to run natd -reverse? -- Johh Heyer - john@personal.supranet.net - http://heyer.supranet.net "Me fail English? That's unpossible!" -- Ralph Wiggam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 22 20:29: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (ftp.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A28F37B503 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:29:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id nbiaaaaa for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:28:45 +1100 Message-ID: <3A95E76A.D3E780A@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:30:34 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Cc: Colin Campbell , David Wilson , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010222115920.043cd3f0@mail.etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > for example, DSL and wireless links are usually bridged, so your customers > MAC addresses are appearing on your network. Many of the customers for our > ET/BWMGR for freebsd, which allows filtering and bandwidth management by > MAC address Can bandwidth management by MAC address be done through dummynet? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 0:37: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FD137B491 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:36:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA84420 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:41:04 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:41:04 +0200 (EET) From: Adrian Penisoara To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Serial synchronous card for FreeBSD ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We are subject of many aggresive fragments attacks and we cannot filter them out (because use use a Cisco CPA2509 to branch to our sattelite antenna -- is seems that there is _no_ version of Cisco IOS able to filter out _only_ fragment packets). Se we are interested in seeking alternative solutions like using a serial synchronous card in our server to branch to our satellite antenna. I need to know what options we have for a 2-10Mbps serial card which must support frame-relay. Any working solutions already implemented ? Thank you very much, Ady (@warpnet.ro) Warp Net Technologies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 0:42:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2465637B4EC for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from sv.Go2France.com (sv.meiway.com [212.73.210.79]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 4AB6216B15 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:53:36 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010223093804.02d44c10@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:40:08 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Serial synchronous card for FreeBSD ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I need to know what options we have for a 2-10Mbps serial card which must >support frame-relay. Any working solutions already implemented ? For high-speed HDLC WAN interfaces with FR support in FreeBSD, ask www.etinc.com For filtering software: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 3:53:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3E7437B491 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:53:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 88998 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 11:53:19 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (209.100.22.250) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 11:53:19 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Subject: RE: MS SQL replicated to MySQL Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:53:18 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by Pulaski Networks (http://www.psknet.com) using AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David, FYI, this question would be much better suited for an NT or MSSQL mailing list. You can indeed replicate from MSSQL to an MySQL. Check the books online for information regarding replication. I've played with this a little, and it seems to work fairly well. A better solution would be to patch exim and qpopper to query your MSSQL database directly. See /usr/ports/databases/freetds and http://www.freetds.org for details. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 They told me to think out of the box, but I tripped over it, now I own my own company. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 1:26 PM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Cc: Sendmail-Questions > Subject: MS SQL replicated to MySQL > > Hi guys, > > I'm running qpopper+mysql+exim patch which allows pop3 logins etc. via a MySQL database. > All my user are on MS SQL, thus I have to manually import data to MySQL > It works brilliantly, the only problem is that I need to now continuosly import the users from MS SQL to MySQL > Is there anyway to replicate MS SQL data to MySQL. > Or maybe I should switch to some type of sendmail arrangement that supports ODBC ? > > Thanks > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > Kindest regards > David Wilson > The S.A Internet > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 3:57:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wildcatblue.com (flanders.wildcatblue.com [206.157.147.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B431537B401 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:57:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sdrhodus@wildcatblue.com) Received: from vghk (p1mp.vghk.e-xtreme.org [206.157.147.77]) by wildcatblue.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B36ED85B04; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:00:39 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000f01c09d8f$6db0c780$577afea9@vghk> From: "david rhodus" To: "Robert Hough" Cc: References: <20010219210620.A37206@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> <448zn1kpuu.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> <20010221075949.A20639@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> <000001c09c6c$88337a90$577afea9@vghk> <20010221235217.A44852@solveinteractive.com> Subject: Re: Expiring User accounts Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:54:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Using Session Time Out is only per session. Like 4 hours online at a time. Then they can connect right back. I'm thinking there will have to be a program that sits there watching the details file some how???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hough" To: "david rhodus" Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:52 PM Subject: Re: Expiring User accounts > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001, david rhodus wrote: > > > I wish I could have something that would turn my users off after 200 hours > > of being online. I'm using radius to acut. > > If you're using RADIUS, then you should have no problem doing this already. > > Session-Timeout = 720000, should handle what you want... 3600 * hour > > > -- > Robert Hough (rch@solveinteractive.com) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 4:16: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACB437B401 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 04:16:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from savvyd (c3-1a119.neo.rr.com [24.93.230.119]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA19530; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:24:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002f01c09d91$bc70ed30$22b197ce@savvyd> From: "Jim Flowers" To: "Adrian Penisoara" , References: Subject: Re: Serial synchronous card for FreeBSD ? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:11:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.sangoma.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Penisoara" To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 3:41 AM Subject: Serial synchronous card for FreeBSD ? > Hi, > > We are subject of many aggresive fragments attacks and we cannot filter > them out (because use use a Cisco CPA2509 to branch to our sattelite > antenna -- is seems that there is _no_ version of Cisco IOS able to filter > out _only_ fragment packets). Se we are interested in seeking alternative > solutions like using a serial synchronous card in our server to branch to > our satellite antenna. > > I need to know what options we have for a 2-10Mbps serial card which must > support frame-relay. Any working solutions already implemented ? > > Thank you very much, > Ady (@warpnet.ro) > Warp Net Technologies > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 8: 7: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (ra.upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB9337B491 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:06:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Received: from ocsinternet.com (localhost.upan.org [127.0.0.1]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1NG70k04503 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:07:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3A968AA4.73A520B9@ocsinternet.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:07:00 -0500 From: Mikel King Organization: OCS Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? References: <00a701c09c7f$65c9af70$0101a8c0@fear.wrath.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out this link to ethfw. It's very promising in concept. It does does filter on mac address only. Cheers, Mikel http://spe.kakito.com/ Brian wrote: > I don't understand how this can be true. Why would you only be able to see > the router's MAC? Maybe I'm more clueless than I thought. > > brian@wrath.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Campbell" > To: "David Wilson" > Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: Filtering connections to ftpd by mac address ? > > > Hi, > > > > Filtering on MAC address is very restricted. You can only do machines on > > the same network segment. After that all you see is the router's MAC > > address. > > > > Colin > > > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, David Wilson wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, howzit going ? > > > > > > Any ideas on how to filter connections to ftpd based on mac address ? > ;-) > > > I have looked into ipfw and tcp wrappers, but both only seem to be able > to > > > do IP addresses. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 10:31:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from et-gw.etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0666637B503 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:31:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by et-gw.etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12794; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:38:05 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010223133755.03af6ad0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:40:03 -0500 To: Adrian Penisoara , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: Re: Serial synchronous card for FreeBSD ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:41 AM 02/23/2001, Adrian Penisoara wrote: >Hi, > > We are subject of many aggresive fragments attacks and we cannot filter >them out (because use use a Cisco CPA2509 to branch to our sattelite >antenna -- is seems that there is _no_ version of Cisco IOS able to filter >out _only_ fragment packets). Se we are interested in seeking alternative >solutions like using a serial synchronous card in our server to branch to >our satellite antenna. > > I need to know what options we have for a 2-10Mbps serial card which must >support frame-relay. Any working solutions already implemented ? Our sync cards have integrated bandwidth management and frame relay capabiltiy. I think freebsd can filter fragments, if not we can implement it fairly easily in the bwmgr. www.etinc.com Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 12:45:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satin.team.look.ca (satin.team.look.ca [207.136.94.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C9237B4EC for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from JTERLECKI@team.look.ca) Received: from 207.136.94.3 (satin.team.look.ca [207.136.94.3]) by satin.team.look.ca with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 17DZLC77; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:49:25 -0500 Received: from corpmail.look.ca (corpmail.look.ca [207.136.94.4]) by satin.team.look.ca with SMTP (MailShield v1.5); Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:49:25 -0500 Received: by CORPMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1XCGFQ94>; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:48:45 -0500 Message-ID: <552BB9A0AF05D411B71C0050DAC2756197C134@LOOKEX.look> From: Jason Terlecki To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Limiting Bandwidth Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:45:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SMTP-HELO: corpmail.look.ca X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: JTERLECKI@team.look.ca X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: corpmail.look.ca [207.136.94.4] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good day, Anyone have an idea how I could limit how much bandwidth specific users can use off a shell. I want to make sure normal users dont use up all the bandwidth, while staff and specific users could use more. Regards, Jason Terlecki . ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email server is running an evaluation copy of the MailShield anti- spam software. Please contact your email administrator if you have any questions about this message. MailShield product info: www.mailshield.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 12:48:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955EE37B491 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:48:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 4EBC213614; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:48:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:48:27 -0500 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Jason Terlecki Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Limiting Bandwidth Message-ID: <20010223154826.A64510@peitho.fxp.org> References: <552BB9A0AF05D411B71C0050DAC2756197C134@LOOKEX.look> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <552BB9A0AF05D411B71C0050DAC2756197C134@LOOKEX.look>; from JTERLECKI@team.look.ca on Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 03:45:40PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 03:45:40PM -0500, Jason Terlecki wrote: > Good day, >=20 >=20 > Anyone have an idea how I could limit how much bandwidth specific users c= an > use off a shell. I want to make sure normal users dont use up all the > bandwidth, while staff and specific users could use more. > See ipfw(4), dummynet(4), and ipfw(8) --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjqWzJoACgkQObaG4P6BelDXMQCfTa4bX8VQ2Hb5EoV8XDPmYAXM 4WYAoIzWOGxR1p43RA7CtrbKdI5vHzlQ =zRAx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 14:56:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7353637B4EC for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B08E3E6B; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:56:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:56:11 +0100 From: Jesper Skriver To: Adrian Penisoara Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial synchronous card for FreeBSD ? Message-ID: <20010223235611.B22607@skriver.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ady@warpnet.ro on Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:41:04AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:41:04AM +0200, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > Hi, > > We are subject of many aggresive fragments attacks and we cannot filter > them out (because use use a Cisco CPA2509 to branch to our sattelite > antenna -- is seems that there is _no_ version of Cisco IOS able to filter > out _only_ fragment packets). Not what you asked, but girlpower(config)#access-list 100 deny tcp any any ? ack Match on the ACK bit dscp Match packets with given dscp value eq Match only packets on a given port number established Match established connections fin Match on the FIN bit fragments Check non-initial fragments gt Match only packets with a greater port number log Log matches against this entry log-input Log matches against this entry, including input interface lt Match only packets with a lower port number neq Match only packets not on a given port number precedence Match packets with given precedence value psh Match on the PSH bit range Match only packets in the range of port numbers rst Match on the RST bit syn Match on the SYN bit time-range Specify a time-range tos Match packets with given TOS value urg Match on the URG bit girlpower(config)#access-list 100 deny tcp any any fragments ? ack Match on the ACK bit dscp Match packets with given dscp value eq Match only packets on a given port number established Match established connections fin Match on the FIN bit gt Match only packets with a greater port number log Log matches against this entry log-input Log matches against this entry, including input interface lt Match only packets with a lower port number neq Match only packets not on a given port number precedence Match packets with given precedence value psh Match on the PSH bit range Match only packets in the range of port numbers rst Match on the RST bit syn Match on the SYN bit time-range Specify a time-range tos Match packets with given TOS value urg Match on the URG bit girlpower#sh ver Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 1600 Software (C1600-NOSY-M), Version 12.1(2)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 20: 0:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.howlermonkey.net (www.howlermonkey.net [63.163.227.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3247B37B401 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:00:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from highprimate@howlermonkey.net) Received: from www.howlermonkey.net (www.howlermonkey.net [63.163.227.18]) by ns.howlermonkey.net (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1O40Ku77413 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:00:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from highprimate@howlermonkey.net) Message-Id: <200102240400.f1O40Ku77413@ns.howlermonkey.net> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 23:00:20 2001 -0500 From: "Kirk D Bailey, General Manager" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Subscribe Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-isp end -Deeply confused I remain, -Kirk D Bailey end __ __ _ \ \ / /__ _ _ _ __ ___ _ __ ___ ___| |_ ___ _ __ \ V / _ \| | | | '__|/ _ \| '_ \ / _ Y __| __/ _ \| '_ \ | | (_) | |_| | | | (_) | | | | __|__ \ || (_) | |_) | |_|\___/ \__,_|_| \___/|_| |_|\___|___/\__\___/| .__/ |_| Your one stop email solution provider Howlermonkey Email Services Co www.howlermonkey.net _____ _ _ _ _ _ | ____|_ __ ___ __ _(_) |___ ___ | |_ _| |_(_) ___ _ __ | _| | '_ ` _ \ / _` | | / __|/ _ \| | | | | __| |/ _ \| '_ \ | |___| | | | | | (_| | | \__ \ (_) | | |_| | |_| | (_) | | | | |_____|_| |_| |_|\__,_|_|_|___/\___/|_|\__,_|\__|_|\___/|_| |_| ODD#1.8.01/kdb/sigme 800baskets To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 23 22:40:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (smtp.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75AD37B503 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@colba.net) Received: from colba.net ([64.231.215.91]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010224064023.XGPS25007.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@colba.net> for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:40:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3A97577F.166A3461@colba.net> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:41:03 -0500 From: Paul Khavkine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: INN or Diablo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi people. I will need to set up a news (reader) server box for my clients. I have ran INN 2.2 before with a small/medium feed of 5G/day and was very happy with it. Now i am wondering if Diablo would be better for simillar purpose or should i stick with INN ? Thanx Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 24 20:40:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669D537B4EC for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:40:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA33918; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:40:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:40:44 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Jason Terlecki Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Limiting Bandwidth In-Reply-To: <552BB9A0AF05D411B71C0050DAC2756197C134@LOOKEX.look> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason Terlecki wrote to freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG: > Good day, > > Anyone have an idea how I could limit how much bandwidth specific > users can use off a shell. I want to make sure normal users dont use > up all the bandwidth, while staff and specific users could use more. You probably won't be able to do this with ipfw(8) and the traffic shaper alone, because you want to restrict bandwidth by user or group. Most traffic filters/shapers work at the IP level. They have no notion of users or groups, nor should they. HOW do you actually want to restrict the bandwidth? For a shell? You'll need to tell us more about your situation and what you want to accomplish. There may be an easier way to do what you set out to. Shooting in the dark, here: As a general approach, maybe you could try setting up a couple of network interfaces--and you can probably accomplish this on a single machine. Give staff/specific users a different hostname to connect to than normal users, and bind different login servers to each address. Allow only staff to log in to one, and do not limit incoming/outgoing traffic to/from that host. Give normal users access to the other host, but limit bandwidth on that address as you see fit. > Regards, > > Jason Terlecki > > . > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email server is running an evaluation copy of the MailShield anti- > spam software. Please contact your email administrator if you have any > questions about this message. MailShield product info: www.mailshield.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 24 20:55:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from oneway.com (daedal.oneway.com [205.252.89.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEE937B491 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:55:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by oneway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA32179; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:57:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:57:19 -0500 (EST) From: Jay Kuri To: Ryan Thompson Cc: Jason Terlecki , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Limiting Bandwidth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Anyone have an idea how I could limit how much bandwidth specific > > users can use off a shell. I want to make sure normal users dont use > > up all the bandwidth, while staff and specific users could use more. > > You probably won't be able to do this with ipfw(8) and the traffic shaper > alone, because you want to restrict bandwidth by user or group. Most > traffic filters/shapers work at the IP level. They have no notion of > users or groups, nor should they. Actually, You can do this with ipfw. I don't know when it appeared, but from the ipfw(8) man page on a 4.2 machine: --- snip --- options: [ . . . ] uid user Match all TCP or UDP packets sent by or received for a user. A user may be matched by name or identification number. gid group Match all TCP or UDP packets sent by or received for a group. A group may be matched by name or identification number. --- snip --- Never tried it... but it is there. Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 24 21: 2:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D48937B4EC for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:02:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA38237; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:02:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:02:09 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Jay Kuri Cc: Jason Terlecki , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Limiting Bandwidth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jay Kuri wrote to Ryan Thompson: > > > > Anyone have an idea how I could limit how much bandwidth specific > > > users can use off a shell. I want to make sure normal users dont use > > > up all the bandwidth, while staff and specific users could use more. > > > > You probably won't be able to do this with ipfw(8) and the traffic shaper > > alone, because you want to restrict bandwidth by user or group. Most > > traffic filters/shapers work at the IP level. They have no notion of > > users or groups, nor should they. > > Actually, You can do this with ipfw. I don't know when it appeared, but > from the ipfw(8) man page on a 4.2 machine: Yikes... I stand corrected..! mouth->open(); mouth->insert(foot); while (fork()); -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message